What a bunch of heroes.
Global recession, people losing jobs left right and centre, pay rises at a premium (unless you're an MP), private pension pots worth absolutely fcuk all and they go on strike. Why? Fcuked if I know why.
Maybe it's the 30 days annual holiday, flexi-time, final salary pensions for virtually no contribution, half day for Maunday Thursday, day off for the Queens Birthday, the 7.12 day, the generous sick leave "allowance" or the fact that most of them do absolutely fcuk all for their money that has particularly wound them up this time.
Parasites.
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When did you leave the Civil Service??????
Try the private sector which has been laying people off left right and centre.....
And another thing, bloody butchers, don't they know theres a recession. My butchers doesn't open on a monday and the days it does open its shuts at 3pm don't they know theres a recession. £2 for a lb of sausages, don't they know theres a recession, I'll give them £1.50 and they'll be happy with that, dont they know theres a recession.
What about window cleaners and lolipop men and that bloke across the road from me with the new car don't they know theres a recession.
Blah blah blah
1) 100% pay rise over three years
2) 75% increase in pension payments
3) 50% increae in annual leave entitlement
4) 25% increase in sick pay
5) Only need to work on Fridays.
Little bloke at the back, jumps up and shouts - "What? Every Friday?"
Coat.............
If I were worried about being let-go on very favourable terms (I'd love it, to be fair) I'd endeavour to improve their productivity and usefulness to ensure that I'm not affected. But no, sadly they just down tools (those that ever picked up tools). I guess if you've been drawing an index linked salary in a nice safe environment for years, not stressing yourself out too much; the prospect of merely getting a massive redundancy payment rather than an absolutely humongous one, a couple of years' before you bumble into retirement must fill you with horror. What you have to remember is that many of these people are completely unemployable and won't be able to do anything in society having been released from their roles.
Nice to see a few of them making an effort though...
IF the Tories get in are we going to seeing running battles between the Police and a load of middle aged women armed with staplers and pencils?
Not always possible I know but maybe its just something else like,"I cant have it, niether should he" comming out here.
Too true. One comment, it is not about improving, it is all about keeping what there is already.
As far as pensions go, the gold plated pension of a civil servant on 15k a year will be £6500. Handsome.
It wasn't libraries, meals on wheels, day care centres, the court service that got us into this mess was it? But they are the sort of things we will lose to pay for it
I'm not lucky enough to have a union where I work. Wish I did though
My local council are a bunch of overpaid vermin who have no connection to the people they are meant to serve. Welcome to the real world cockblocks
Who is it they are appealing to anyway by going on strike? Me, an income and council taxpayer? Sorry, not interested.
I'm not de-personalising this at all. I work in a bank and won't see a bonus this year (despite having been promised about 20k) and won't even mention a pay rise. I won't be looking to the public for sympathy or throwing my toys out of the pram, because I (and my industry as a whole) deserves the square route of fuck all.
All too often, sadly, people are unable to look at their own circumstances and admit that they don't deserve a more than fair slice of the pie.
Very, very well said
When I was at school, way back in the mist of time...... people were talking about retiring at 50. Quite a few jobs you could do this with the fire service, the police etc......
Of course you could retire at anytime. BUT now here is the rub as long as you had the loot...... As the years rolled by first it was a bunch of aspiring civil servants demanding parity with men, so the Goverment played a blinder and instead of reducing the retirement age to 60 the Goverment raised it to 65, then 67... Now there is talk of capping redundancy, albeit for public workers. Now I have no particula brief for Civil servants, but if you do a job with a contract and two thirds of the way through they wish to change the service conditions surely this cannot be right, whoever it is. I am sure if this was hedge fund managers they would all blackmail the country and asay they were going to leave..... etc etc.
Quite why you cannot have a retirement decade and those that can afford, or able to retire at a nominatd age,say 60, on a reduced state benefit, or those that wish to continue till say 70 at an enhanced pension surely this is the way forward..... not demanding people have to retire, or work. Personally, I feel that whoever is in power will reduce early retirement and exclude state pensions on a means test in the future!. I also found it quite hypocritical for Mss Jowell to spout about some poor bloody council workers pension when she will have a very nice gold plated pension as an MP, albeit she had her fingers in the pies of god knows what a few years back with her hubby!. So although I have a limited sympathy for the PCS, lectures from this 'champion of the working class' we can do without.......
I have a lot more time for these poor bloody foot soldiers than the hordes of bankers and MP's receiving shed loads of money for failing......, perhaps some of the ex bankers might fancy a turn in the dole offices! and immigration centres. yeah thought not!.....
In terms of changing the contract though - they're not. These are terms where they're getting quadruple what the law demands. Even the worst affected person (and if you were 59 having pushed a pen in the same desk for 41 years you'd probably be pissing yourself laughing if you got a redundancy payout), would still be getting more than double what they are legally entitled to. Sadly, for public sector workers, like the rest of us: things change and the idile-ic life they've enjoyed up until now isn't going to be able to continue. A number of financial institutions have reduced potential redundancy payments, but I didn't hear their union murmur, as they know a) they're still on a good wicket and b) given their reputation and the fact that they're a lot better off than most other people, nobody will give a flying... Shame the PCS can't do the same.
It'll affect a tiny amount of people. I have my doubts about anyone who sticks the same job for more than 24 years anyway, to be honest.
So? If you have a contract with someone to pay you twenty five quid an hour, and after a while they turn around and say "well actually we've decided to slash your pay, but you shouldn't complain because you've been getting more than four times the minimum wage" (which is what the law demands), that would be OK would it?
Remind me who it was that got us into this terrible effing mess again? Was it a) the old dear who works behind the tea bar in the County Court for minimum wage or thereabouts or b) someone pulling in £100k plus (plus bonuses, expense account, company car, etc).
There's good and bad employees in both sectors.
PCS have challenged the decision in the courts (Judicial Review), awaiting a date of hearing.