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edited January 2010 in General Charlton
PLAYER RATINGS v HARTLEPOOL

Hartlepool H (41 lifers)

Elliot - 6.30
Richardson - 6.27
Llera - 5.70
Dailly - 6.10
Basey - 6.27
Shelvey - 6.12
Bailey - 6.71
Semedo - 6.41
Sam - 6.32
Burton - 6.46
Mooney - 6.51

Non- scoring

Wagstaff - 7.23
Mckenzie - 6.43
Dickson - 5.49

Ave. rating 6.29

AVERAGE PLAYER RATINGS SO FAR THIS SEASON (appearances of 30 mins+ )

= Semedo - - 7.22 (21)
= Sodje - 7.07 (10)
= Bailey - - 7.05 (26)
= Dailly - - 6.90 (24)
= Youga - - 6.89 (18)
= Shelvey - - 6.84 (17)
1 Racon - - 6.82 (18)
-1 Elliot - - 6.82 (22)
= Burton - - 6.80 (25)
= Richardson - - 6.75 (18)
= Mooney - 6.72 (9)
= Sam - - 6.69 (25)
= Basey - 6.66 (12)
= Spring - 6.64 (7)
1 Omozusi - 6.50 (9)
1 Wagstaff - 6.48 (7)
-2 Llera - - 6.47 (17)
= A Sodje - 6.47 (6)

Players with less than five scoring appearances)

Ikeme 6.55 (4)
Dickson 6.26 (2)
McLeod 5.61 (3)

MATCH STATS v HARTLEPOOL

...........................CAFC.....SUFC

Goals...................... 2...........1
Possession...............54%........46%
Shots (target)............5...........2
Shots (off-target)….....10...........1
Corners....................7...........1
Fouls......................8...........16
Yellow cards...............1...........4
Red Cards.................0...........0
Att. 14,636 (101 Hartlepool)


MAN OF THE MATCH AWARDS

H Wycombe - RACON (7.44)
A Hartlepool - BURTON (7.76)
A Orient - RACON (7.93)
H Walsall - SEMEDO (8.23)
A Tranmere - SAM (9.50)
H Brentford - SEMEDO (8.34)
H Southampton - ELLIOT (7.44)
A Norwich – SHELVEY (7.80)
H Exeter - YOUGA (7.86)
A Colchester – RICHARDSON (6.08)
A Leeds – S SODJE (8.02)
H Oldham - YOUGA (7.88)
H Huddersfield - YOUGA (7.95)
A Gillingham – ELLIOT (7.95)
A Carlisle – IKEME (6.42)
H MK Dons – BAILEY (8.71)
A Yeovil - BAILEY (8.29)
H - Bristol R - BAILEY (7.93)
A - Brighton - S SODJE / BURTON (7.44)
H - Southend - BURTON (7.60)
A - Stockport - S SODJE (7.79)
H - Millwall - BURTON (7.22)
H - Swindon - BAILEY (8.70)
A - Brentford - BAILEY (8.00)
A - Wycombe - BAILEY (7.86)
H - Hartlepool - BAILEY (6.71)

Total

Bailey 7
Burton 3.5
Youga 3
S Sodje 2.5
Racon 2
Semedo 2
Elliot 2
Sam 1
Shelvey 1
Richardson 1
Ikeme 1

GOALS

Burton 12
Bailey 9
Sam 4
Shelvey 4
Wagstaff 4
S Sodje 3
Llera 3
Mooney 3
McLeod 2
A Sodje 2
OG 2
Semedo 1
Dailly 1

ASSISTS (the AFKA rule of having the last meaningful direct impact)

Sam 7
Shelvey 6
Burton 6
Basey 5
Bailey 3
Mooney 3
Richardson 2
Spring 2
Llera 2
Racon 1
Youga 1
Sodje 1
Dickson 1

YELLOW CARDS

Semedo 6
Sam 5
Llera 4
McLeod 4
Youga 4
Dailly 4
Burton 4
Sodje 3
Racon 3
Basey 3
Shelvey 2
Elliot 2
Bailey 2
Mooney 2
Richardson 1
Stavrinou 1
Wagstaff 1
Spring 1
McKenzie 1
Omozusi 1
A Sodje 1
Dickson 1

RED CARDS

S Sodje 2
Burton 1

TIME OF GOALS

.................0-15...16-30...31-45... 46-60...61-75...76-90....Total

Scored...........6.......13.........8.........7.......7........9.........50

Conceded........2.......3..........8.........5.......4........7......... 29

GOALS PER GAME – 3.04

POINTS PER GAME
– 2.08

LEAGUE ONE STATS

Games played…………....298
Games remaining……….254
% played………………......53%
Home wins…………….....47%
Draws…………………......27%
Away wins………….......26%
Goals per match……... 2.74
Goals p. match (H)…...1.58
Goals p. match (A)….. 1.16
Over 2.5 goals……….....54%
Under 2.5 goals………...46%

LEAGUE ONE FORM TABLE

Form table (last 8 matches) P W D L Pts

1 Norwich City 8 7 1 0 22
2 Swindon Town 8 6 1 1 19
3 Charlton 8 5 3 0 18
4 Southampton 8 5 1 2 16
5 Colchester Utd 8 5 1 2 16
6 Leeds Utd 8 4 3 1 15
7 Brentford 8 4 2 2 14
8 Tranmere Rovers 8 3 3 2 12
9 Millwall 8 3 3 2 12
10 Huddersfield 8 3 3 2 12
11 Walsall 8 3 2 3 11
12 Carlisle Utd 8 3 2 3 11
13 Milton Keynes 8 3 1 4 10
14 Brighton & Hove 8 3 1 4 10
15 Bristol Rovers 8 3 1 4 10
16 Leyton Orient 8 2 2 4 8
17 Gillingham 8 2 2 4 8
18 Exeter City 8 2 1 5 7
19 Hartlepool 8 2 1 5 7
20 Yeovil Town 8 1 3 4 6
21 Oldham Athletic 8 1 3 4 6
22 Southend Utd 8 2 0 6 6
23 Wycombe 8 1 2 5 5
24 Stockport 8 0 0 8 0

MISCELLANEOUS STATS (AFKA and the much admired Salad)

This was Charlton's sixth 2-1 victory this season and the first time a winning scoreline has been repeated; Orient have lost 2-1 five times.

David Mooney's 3 goals have all been our first, but not the last, goal of a victory (so why did I bet on him being last scorer on Tuesday?!).

Scott Wagstaff's 4 goals have all been our second and final goal of a victory, although this was the first time he has given us the lead.

The average player rating of 6.29 was the lowest for a win this season.

Hartlepool's three attempts at goal were the lowest by the opposition this season.

Nicky Bailey's man of the the match score of 6.71 was the third lowest MOM score of the season, being Colchester and Carlisle away.

Orient's previous five victories have been followed by defeat to a team currently in the top 6, they won again this week so defeat to Charlton on Monday would complete the set.

Orient have only twice been behind at half-time and haven't conceded a first-half goal in their last six matches, however Charlton have the best first-half record in the league, ahead 15 times at half-time, compared to a risible 12 for Norwich and Leeds ;-)

Orient cave in and concede more goals in the last 20 minutes of games than the rest of the games put together.
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Comments

  • Bailey's on a good bit of form then! going on the stats we should beat leyton orient then but again you never know in this game....

    Great stats as ever AFKA
  • Interesting...according to this, Basey has five assists from 12 games and Youga one from 18. Why are we all so keen to get Kelly back?!
  • Waggy can't be MOM for the Hartlepool game then.....understandable, but a pity.
  • [cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]Interesting...according to this, Basey has five assists from 12 games and Youga one from 18. Why are we all so keen to get Kelly back?!

    I'd never thought i'd say this but Kelly is a better defender.
  • Mooney 3rd in the average ratings, interesting.
  • [cite]Posted By: JT[/cite]Mooney 3rd in the average ratings, interesting.

    Haha to all those doubters, cant be that bad can he!
  • edited January 2010
    KY vs GB
    games started ..... 18 - 10
    points per game .. 2.0 - 2.2
    goals for ............. 1.9 - 2.2
    goals against ...... 1.1 - 1.3
  • [cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]KY vs GB
    games started ..... 18 - 10
    points per game .. 2.0 - 2.2
    goals for ............. 1.9 - 2.2
    goals against ...... 1.1 - 1.3

    Good stuff, Salad - pretty much proves that Basey helps us create more chances, but with Youga we are more solid at the back. So Youga at LB and Basey LM could be the perfect combination!
  • I don't think it proves anything at all, too many other factors are involved. Basey also has the benefit of taking some of the set pieces.

    I do agree Basey ahead of Youga at LM could be worth a go though.
  • edited January 2010
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]I don't think it proves anything at all, too many other factors are involved. Basey also has the benefit of taking some of the set pieces.

    I do agree Basey ahead of Youga at LM could be worth a go though.

    Do you think Jonjo in the middle with Bailey with Semedo dropping to the bench would be feasible or desirable if Basey plays LM?

    I think it would increase our attacking options without losing too much solidity as Basey, as a full back, is defensively minded and Sam, for all the flak thrown at him, also helps his full back out.

    I like Semedo and think he has played well over the season but I would also like us to make full use of Jonjo while we still have him. My only doubt is whether our lack of pace in central defence could be exposed without Semedo sweeping up.

    Thoughts?
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  • The form table makes our draw with Swindon all the more remarkable.
  • Also i think leeds play swindon next tuesday - 3 days after paling spurs in the cup - and hopefully a day after we draw level with them on points

    Referring to earlier comment about them not letting in goals in first half but collapsing - we fans will have to be extra patient maybe!!
  • Should are curent form now read played 8 won 6 drawn 2 after the Hartlepool win.
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]I don't think it proves anything at all, too many other factors are involved. Basey also has the benefit of taking some of the set pieces.

    I do agree Basey ahead of Youga at LM could be worth a go though.

    Do you think Jonjo in the middle with Bailey with Semedo dropping to the bench would be feasible or desirable if Basey plays LM?

    I think it would increase our attacking options without losing too much solidity as Basey, as a full back, is defensively minded and Sam, for all the flak thrown at him, also helps his full back out.

    I like Semedo and think he has played well over the season but I would also like us to make full use of Jonjo while we still have him. My only doubt is whether our lack of pace in central defence could be exposed without Semedo sweeping up.

    Thoughts?
    I think it would be enough for a lot of home games - look at the way teams like Hartlepool and Walsall barely threatened us. What we would lose in Semedo defensively we would hopefully gain in Shelvey going forward.

    Big games I'm not sure we should start games like that. Like you say I'd like to see Jonjo while we have him.
  • [cite]Posted By: somerton[/cite]Should are curent form now read played 8 won 6 drawn 2 after the Hartlepool win.

    We drew 3 in a row over Xmas - and with 2 successive wins since, the stats could be slewed to read 3 draws in the last 5 matches.

    So deffo couldnt have current form showing won 6 drawn 2 in the last 8 games. Sorry!
  • [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]I think it would be enough for a lot of home games - look at the way teams like Hartlepool and Walsall barely threatened us. What we would lose in Semedo defensively we would hopefully gain in Shelvey going forward.

    Big games I'm not sure we should start games like that. Like you say I'd like to see Jonjo while we have him.

    Far better IMO to keep a settled team where possible, rather than chopping and changing to include Jonjo at the expense of Semedo and vice versa.

    Sometimes a team needs freshening up admittedly, but best to keep a settled team unit together if it's performing and producing results.
  • For now yeah, was more talking about it being an option. We'd need Youga back first anyway.
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]I think it would be enough for a lot of home games - look at the way teams like Hartlepool and Walsall barely threatened us. What we would lose in Semedo defensively we would hopefully gain in Shelvey going forward.

    Big games I'm not sure we should start games like that. Like you say I'd like to see Jonjo while we have him.

    Far better IMO to keep a settled team where possible, rather than chopping and changing to include Jonjo at the expense of Semedo and vice versa.

    Sometimes a team needs freshening up admittedly, but best to keep a settled team unit together if it's performing and producing results.

    If you use that theory then richardson shouldn't have come back in. Omo wasn't playing to bad and was part of a winning team. Now what about when sodje is back and youga do we keep the same team that have played and won the last two games? I think it was Large that said that might be a good idea and i tend to agree. I do not believe you should play the same team week in week out just because they won. I believe you put out your best team to beat a certain team and a certain system. On tuesday night we really didn't need semedo practically playing with the back 4 it made us far to defensive and streched us to much so there was no link play. Bailey was deep to against a team with one forward. We should have attacked them more and got at them its what we do best not defending.
  • All good points, Uncle ....... but generally a settled team produce more consistant results over a period than one that's constantly being chopped around - and for that reason overall, managers tend to keep a settled side when they can.

    Where they do tend to change things though is during the match itself, last 20 mins or so - or even start of second half in extreme cases, they'll tweak their favoured starting XI to suit how that particular match is developing.


    Parky also appeared to change the formation around with 20 mins to go on Tuesday, dropping the fluid diamond midfield and going for more conventional width, which seemed to push us further up the pitch, bringing the best out of Semedo and Bailey's passing.

    You may be right about Semedo on Tuesday ....... but he did flick on Llera's good challenging header, neatly into the path of Waggy for the winner.

    Does that mean Semedo claims the assist? *smiley winky thing*
  • Well yes that's an assist. Semedo has already set up and scored more than some thought he was capable of ;-)
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  • Parky changed the formation before halftime he changed personel later. I just think some teams are set up to be attacked and hartlepool were one of those and we sat back far too deep. A lot of the top managers including fergie change their favoured team to play a certain way against certain teams. They change systems and personel to suit the game they are playing. Yes i know we are not man u but hartlepool aint chelsea either. I'm not knocking the result we got just think we can afford to drop certain players for certain games and therefore giving those players a rest...Win win situation for me
  • [cite]Posted By: uncle[/cite]Parky changed the formation before halftime he changed personel later. I just think some teams are set up to be attacked and hartlepool were one of those and we sat back far too deep.

    That's something we tend to do even against teams that come to park the bus.

    Sure, a team playing a defensive 4-5-1 aims to clog the midfield, denying opponents time and space on the ball - you tend to do better by using width to get behind them, get your wide men to the goaline and whip the ball back with your strikers facing goal, and their defenders facing the wrong way.

    In fact that's exactly how we brilliantly constructed our first goal.


    I wonder if some managers, including Parky, ask the team to sit deeper against packed midfields - thus encouraging opponents to press forward. When their moves breaks down their team has lost shape, and space between their last man and keeper can be exploited for the quick counter attack.

    Seems a risky strategy to me though - once opponents are within shooting distance, it only encourages them to have a pop at your goal. It only takes a deflection or even a careless clumsy penalty given away .....


    Uncle, your proposal to rest a player occasionally for a low key fixture - in cup games, it happens all the time of course -
    is basically sound. It might be different to constantly chop and change the team though.
  • [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]Well yes that's an assist. Semedo has already set up and scored more than some thought he was capable of ;-)

    Not according to AFKA.
  • [cite]Posted By: Stone[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]Well yes that's an assist. Semedo has already set up and scored more than some thought he was capable of ;-)

    Not according to AFKA.

    The BBC match highlights video must be wrong then ......(!)

    ;o)
  • [cite]Posted By: uncle[/cite]Parky changed the formation before halftime he changed personel later. I just think some teams are set up to be attacked and hartlepool were one of those and we sat back far too deep. A lot of the top managers including fergie change their favoured team to play a certain way against certain teams. They change systems and personel to suit the game they are playing. Yes i know we are not man u but hartlepool aint chelsea either. I'm not knocking the result we got just think we can afford to drop certain players for certain games and therefore giving those players a rest...Win win situation for me

    Listening on the commentary they said that Parky was in the technical area a few times trying to calm the players down and get them to play a little less frenetically/more deliberately.

    Frankly 9 times out of 10 we should be beating teams like Hartlepool, and if Parky was trying to get the players to take their time then he was right to do so, all we needed to do was be patient and carve out a few openings, but for Llera's kamikaze defending this would have been a lot easier and assured.
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Stone[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]Well yes that's an assist. Semedo has already set up and scored more than some thought he was capable of ;-)

    Not according to AFKA.

    The BBC match highlights video must be wrong then ......(!)

    ;o)

    I've just watched it several times Oggy and not convinced Semedo got a touch on it. Even if he did, I don't think AFKA would consider it the "last meaningful direct impact". I certainly wouldn't.
  • Semedo's presence could be a big part of the reason some teams have completely failed to threaten us. Take that bits a pieces man out of the midfield and suddenly the opposition might be able to play it around a bit more.
  • [cite]Posted By: Stone[/cite]I've just watched it several times Oggy and not convinced Semedo got a touch on it. Even if he did, I don't think AFKA would consider it the "last meaningful direct impact". I certainly wouldn't.

    Have you also seen the video posted on the 'Video' thread, this time taken from behind the Covered End goal?

    You have to be quick, as it's right at the beginning of the cut on 1 min 27 secs - but from Llera's strong header coming down very central, under challenge Semedo definitely turns a first touch 10 yard pass 45 degrees into the path of Waggy.

    Here's the link:
    Linky: Waggy's goal - Semedo assist

    ;o)
  • Interesting to see that Bailey was MOM despite many claiming he didn't play for 70 minutes.
  • people mark their scores before they go to the game
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