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No One Hates Us (Do We Care)????

edited January 2010 in General Charlton
Following on from a conversation i was having with "Covered End" in The White Horse before the game on Saturday would be interested to get an overall opinion on this.

It bugs me a little that nobody seems to have any real dislike for us..I know we are a "family club" and we set a very good example off the pitch but in a footballing way there is something special about a rivalry. Yes there are teams we want to dislike us like Palace and Millwall but that is not recipricated in a natural footballing way because of their historical differences with other clubs, it seems you can only have one true rival.... I have noticed over the last few years that games between ourselves and Southampton have become particularly niggly off the pitch but would you want a rivalry with a club 100 odd miles away? Plus they have Portsmouth. Im not suggesting we want a rivaly for regular punch ups at matches (before thats mentioned)

Weighing up everything, historically over the last 20 years Palace should be our rivals based on the ground sharing, Simon jordan/Richard murray and the Dowie saga. Is it there though on Palaces part (it seems not - or are they in denial cos they think it winds up us), i mean at the end of the day it cant be particularly much fun having a rivalry with a south coast club who are always in a different league and rarely play each other!! Have the majority of Palace fans actually seen a Palace Brighton game and do they actually know why Brighton are their rivals?

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  • To be honest I think you are flogging a dead horse here mate, plenty of Palace and Millwall will deny it for various reasons but I'd say at least 50% of what we think about them is reciprocated.
  • I'd say palace and millwall do hate us! based on friends for each team and they really cant stand us, like i cant them!

    but good point who is our true rival, as Millwall's main rival is West Ham clearly & Palace is Brighton
  • Trust me, Palace hate us. They just know that saying "we don't care about you" winds us up. I'm sure they hate Brighton as well, maybe more so (a Brighton mate tried to explain it to me once, still don't really get it) but they deffo have it in for us.
  • [cite]Posted By: ISawLeaburnScore[/cite]To be honest I think you are flogging a dead horse here mate, plenty of Palace and Millwall will deny it for various reasons but I'd say at least 50% of what we think about them is reciprocated.

    Yep, totally corect ... and the more they deny it and pretend it don't exist, the more obvious it is.
  • I think the younger generation of Palace and Charlton fans hate each other more so than older fans.
  • [cite]Posted By: se9addick[/cite]Trust me, Palace hate us. They just know that saying "we don't care about you" winds us up. I'm sure they hate Brighton as well, maybe more so (a Brighton mate tried to explain it to me once, still don't really get it) but they deffo have it in for us.


    Can you explain it then, cos i'm not sure i've ever understood why Palace hate Brighton either.
  • Don't care if they hate us or not.

    We don't need their permission or approval for anything but especially not to think what we like about them.
  • [cite]Posted By: you tube cafc[/cite]Following on from a conversation i was having with "Covered End" in The White Horse before the game on Saturday would be interested to get an overall opinion on this.

    It bugs me a little that nobody seems to have any real dislike for us..I know we are a "family club" and we set a very good example off the pitch but in a footballing way there is something special about a rivalry. Yes there are teams we want to dislike us like Palace and Millwall but that is not recipricated in a natural footballing way because of their historical differences with other clubs, it seems you can only have one true rival.... I have noticed over the last few years that games between ourselves and Southampton have become particularly niggly off the pitch but would you want a rivalry with a club 100 odd miles away? Plus they have Portsmouth. Im not suggesting we want a rivaly for regular punch ups at matches (before thats mentioned)

    Weighing up everything, historically over the last 20 years Palace should be our rivals based on the ground sharing, Simon jordan/Richard murray and the Dowie saga. Is it there though on Palaces part (it seems not - or are they in denial cos they think it winds up us), i mean at the end of the day it cant be particularly much fun having a rivalry with a south coast club who are always in a different league and rarely play each other!! Have the majority of Palace fans actually seen a Palace Brighton game and do they actually know why Brighton are their rivals?

    You metion Palace there now they have a bigger rivalry with Brighton than they do with us. We all know the reasons for this but they have no real teams hating them again they claim to hate Man Utd just cos of the cantona instident but Utd couldnt care less. I agree with what you say as i think we could do with more rivalry and i would suggest that if you would like to start a new rivalry for Charlton Norwich would be the way to go. Everytime over the last few years that we have played them the have become niggly games. Also we did send them down last season so im sure they are not keen on us for that reason.
  • The Palace Brighton thing has got something to do with Mullery im pretty sure
  • [cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]
    Can you explain it then, cos i'm not sure i've ever understood why Palace hate Brighton either.

    at the time no one really bothered about palace as they were like wimbledon.what was the point,so they just invented a rivalry with brighton as they didn't have anything either.
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  • "start a rivalry with Norwich?"

    what on earth?!
  • Based on the you can only have 1 true rival..Norwich have Ipswich so thats not really gonna evolve..There is nobody really, however im not aware of Southend having a main local rival and they have got the arse with us over Bailey, its quite a local match that i can imagine being a bit niggly next month.
  • After they changed their nickname to copy Benfica (sometime before or after they changed their kit to copy Barcelona), then the Eagles didn't really like the Seagulls and Alan Mullery stuck his oar in.

    And they all lived happily ever after.

    Correct me if I'm wrong though but I basically thought to cut a long story short they ended up with a rivalry as they were both pish third division clubs relatively close by with (in particularly Brighton's) a decent away following?
  • edited January 2010
    Why do Palace hate Brighton then?

    Edit: Just seen the above.
  • God these threads really make me cringe. So effing what if they do or don't like us? There was plenty of atmosphere at the last two two Palace games and plenty at the Millwall match. I'd say that shows games against us are at least a bit different to the norm if not full on derbys.

    They're never going to be Rangers Celtic are they?

    Threads like this just make us look like a bunch or mournful teenagers who keep getting turned down by the school bike.
  • don't remind me Exiled!

    I spose some genuinely don't know though EA.
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  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Exiled_Addick[/cite]God these threads really make me cringe. So effing what if they do or don't like us? There was plenty of atmosphere at the last two two Palace games and plenty at the Millwall match. I'd say that shows games against us are at least a bit different to the norm if not full on derbys.

    They're never going to be Rangers Celtic are they?

    Threads like this just make us look like a bunch or mournful teenagers who keep getting turned down by the school bike.[/quote]


    yeah true but its a regular topic of conversation every season still!
  • Agree with the sentiments above. My Palace supporting mates love the fact they're above us and revel in mentioning it whenever we have a football debate.

    I wouldn't care if noone hated us. Only interested in Charlton. I think I celebrated Llera's goal against Swindon more than any of the goals against Millwall, so a last minute equaliser/winner is just as special as a goal against your rivals.
  • Thought the Gills hated us for nicking most of their fans?
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  • It is what it is. No point having long debates about it, leave that to Palace fans.

    For me Millwall is a good local derby which I want us to win for bragging rights whereas I genuinly dislike Palace and wish them a constant stream of shite karma.

    Others feel differently and that's fine. I've never understood why every fan is expected to feel the same towards rivals. It's about the feeling you personally get pre match when you are playing one of them.
  • crystal palace have a unhealthy even creepy intrest in everything charlton ,those harmless geeks never go a day not mentioning something charlton related on there boards,my brother was at a party last summer in brighton when charlton were being mentioned when some spotty nigel went into a rant about us,when the people at the party mentioned my brother was charlton he started ranting about brighton! gillingham also seem a little bit keen on everything charlton theses days to,i would have to say millwall want to beat us and put us in our place,but there preoccupied with everything west ham.
  • edited January 2010
    [cite]Posted By: ISawLeaburnScore[/cite]"start a rivalry with Norwich?"

    what on earth?!

    it was a typo, Rupert meant Northwich - and it's a fair point I 'effin hate them Cheshire bastids!
  • [cite]Posted By: Oakster[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: ISawLeaburnScore[/cite]"start a rivalry with Norwich?"

    what on earth?!

    it was a typo, Rupert meant Northwich - and it's a fair point I 'effin hate them Cheshire bastids!

    PMSL
  • Dulwich Hamlet for me: hate those muggy stuck-in-between- Dulwich-and-Camberwell nonces
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