It looks like we finally have a MANAGER (Not bloody 'chief coach' cobblers) at last.
Was interesting to see the players come over to get instructions off Pardoo rather than hide away.
And if anyone sees an ugly bloke in a Joma tracksuit running up and down and across the A1 near Newcastle, looking a bit lost, can somebody call him a cab please......
Only at Charlton.
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The start of long relationship maybe?
Darren Bent is an absolute top bloke, so don't get me wrong, but no way is he playing inthe Championship next year.
but if we go down bents gotta really go, to good for championship, but seems b gettin on really well with pards and he's not so much bout money
And sorry- Comparing Murray to Jordan is not a way to be taken seriously.
I said at the outset that we needed to bring in a Charlton person to replace Curbs and although Pardew is not exactly Steve Gritt or Mark Kinsella he knows the club and understands what it is about and how Curbs ran the place.
Dowie had no idea about us and it was a massive culture shock for both parties that was only ever going to end in tears.
Now lets get rid of that Aussie twat Harbin, the last remnant of the Dowie regime I believe, and we can pretend that the whole thing was nothing more than a bad dream.
So, given that Pards was not available until less than 3 weeks ago, what should Murray have done differently?
answer errr an experienced premiership manager not Les Reed and even after curbishley murray and the board made these appointments no one else. Pardew thank god was put on the boards laps thank god !!!
D Bent should be kept for a season if we go down unless its 20 million +. Lets try and keep him and dont do our usual.
Having a go at Jordan for everything he does is a stupid attitude. i.e he doesnt like how the mega top clubs Arseanl and espeically Dein of Arsenal are taking the pee out the rest of the preimer league and football league clubs.
Pardew seems to be getting the effort from the team even if, as he said himself after Fulham, the football wasn't that good. Pardew seems to have restored confidence on and off the pitch and with time and new players maybe he can improve the football. At least when we go behind we know we can come back to win.
All the home game bar Chelsea seem winnable. Now the big test will be finding a win away somewhere.
What has season ticket prices got to do with the argument i could quite easily fireback Bolton Wanderers who have the same ticket prices crowds etc...
The point about season ticket prices is that here is a Chairman that looks after the Club's fans better than any other PL Chairman. The least he deserves is not to be slagged off by numbnuts.
Don't get me wrong. As a club we owe everything that we have to Richard Murray and I am confident that he will lead us back to a strong position. However, you cannot deny that a string of mistakes have been made this season and we are going to pay a heavy price for them.
Some mistakes I agree but not all the ones you suggest. But that's just my opinion. You and Richard Murray may well disagree.
At the time of Dowie's appointment, no one was over thrilled, yet very few were ultra disappointed, we appreciated that there appeared to be little interest from any manager that would excite. Could we tell in the summer if Dowie was going to be worse than Davies, Taylor or Hoddle ?
If i had three constructive criticisms of Richard Murray they would be:
1. Despite Dowie signing up to the idea, he was wrong to choose an individual to 'fit into a structure' when it is obvious that Dowie is in a similar way to Curbishley, very much his own man that likes to lead from the front, dominate everything and have things exactly the way he likes it. There was always going to be a collision course in that respect.
2. After playing a very backseat role out of the media eye for 15 years, he become a lot more public during the summer with the leaving of Curbs and the appointment of Dowie, whether it was intentional or co-incidence, it appeared he was trying to get a bit more media exposure than he previously had. Yet when Dowie was dismissed, it was Varney who had to deal with all the flak. It was a big shock to sack when we did, and Murray should of been the one fronting it all.
3. Regardless of anything that has happened away from the club, he was very wrong to publicly pick out one individual (Diawara) in his rant after the Wycombe game. Yes he was as pissed off as the rest of us, but the Chairman really should be a little bit above that, and little things like that do absolutely nothing to lift morale.
The most important point worth remembering is that if the events of the past six months had happened at any other club, the chairman and board would of been hounded out by supporters. The fact that so little pressure has been put that way is testament to the good work they have done in the past (effectively buying credit with supporters), and the supporters in general having a good working knowledge of the club and not having unrealistic expectations. Despite all this, Richard Murray is very important to our club and most supporters appreciate that.
The other mistake was giving Les Reed a permanent contract. I'm sure this was meant to be a public display of confidence in him, as was Varney's comments about not changing the manager again this season - only to change the manager two weeks later! There was no pressure to give Les a permanent contract. His subsequent sacking made the club look foolish.
I'm sure the Board will now continue to give Pardew the backing he needs, regardless of how we do this season. It could be a tough time though and I wouldn't rule out Pardew walking away if he gets a better offer.
of course everyone's entitled to their opinion. To say that "If we go down it will be Murray's fault" is simplistic and insulting to someone who has made decisions (right ir wrong) in the best interests of the Club not of his own ego. No one will suffer more than Murray in terms of pride and, as it happens, pocket if we do go down. If it does happen, will no-one else be to blame? Like some of the players?
I didn't think I was using particularly bad words in replying to Pete T but I didn't particularly like the sarcky tone of his replies to me. Nonetheless, apologies for calling him a numbnut.
AFKA,
I don't think Murray or the rest of the board are beyond criticism or have made no mistakes and I certainly agree that he should have chosen his words much more carefully re Diawarra (btw Diawarra seemed to be enjoying himself with JFH on the bench while we were losing at the Boro so I wouldn't be too concerned about his sensitivities). Bear in mind that Murray and others took some serious and unreasonable abuse outside the Main Stand after the Wycombe debacle - an explanation if not an excuse.
Fair enough, but something had to give. If the only serious abuse the board have taken this season is by a handful of spotty teens after the Wycombe game, then i honestly don't think they can complain to much. I think the support in general has been superb this year, the supporters have given fantastic backing considering the situation we have been in. The only time it has turned was during the Reed period when it was clear the players did not want to be here, and it was those players that rightly took the lion share of the flack.
We've been spoilt with a fantastic trouble-free run for over a decade, the law of averages would tell you we were bound to slip up at some stage. Hopefully it may work out to be a bit of a reality check for some people.
In the space of a week, we appear to be a football club again, and hopefully the unity between board, manager, players and supporters, that has always been a strong point of our club, may start to rebuild quickly because it was a horrible feeling when it wasn't there for a few months.
2.5 years on and it's not getting any better;-(
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The most important point worth remembering is that if the events of the past six months had happened at any other club, the chairman and board would of been hounded out by supporters. The fact that so little pressure has been put that way is testament to the good work they have done in the past (effectively buying credit with supporters), and the supporters in general having a good working knowledge of the club and not having unrealistic expectations.[/quote]
2.5 years on and it's not getting any better;-([/quote]
Shows how soft and/or naive we are as fans imo. They've got off very lightly