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NORTHWICH AND PARKINSON

edited November 2009 in General Charlton
First and foremost to Northwich Victoria and their fans:
Your support was fantastic.
Your team thoroughly outplayed us.
3-0 would have been a more accurate reflection of the game.
You deserve to go on and make a lot of money from this cup run.
Your fans have been brilliantly good humoured and excellent in the build up.
Witton Albion are chite.
Now us.
PARKINSON YOU HAVE BLOWN IT ALL FOR ME.
F*CK OFF F*CK OFF F*CK OFF F*CK OFF
we were badly prepared, we were poorly motivated, we had little focus....and we are going nowhere this season with you.
PARKINSON WE KNOW YOU'RE A LOVELY BLOKE AND ALL THAT
BUT F*CK OFF
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  • I have seen a lot of dross and felt despair on many occasions over the years but I haven't felt as embarrassed and ashamed of a Charlton team as I do today.

    This kind of performance is NOT acceptable.

    This is in no way meant to take the plaudits from Northwich, they were the better team and deserved to win.
  • I agree totally regarding the result. Northwich were better, their fans were up for it and it was very hard to see which team was the league team and which was the non-league team. The facts are simple Charlton delivered a pitiful shambolic piss weak performance, they must have known that Northwich would be in their faces and be up for it and it is a crime how we responded. I genuinely don't think that their keeper had a save to make. Dailly and Randolph gave it their best and played with pride, the rest....well- if you cant say something nice!
    Should Parky go after this game? I say no- we were poor and have been poor for a bit but hopefully this defeat can give everyone a kick up the arse and we can move on from here and get our early season form back, if we go up I am more than happy to forgive this result. I am still in the glass half full camp for now- give it another month though!!
  • Well played Northwich, the longer the match went on the more organised they looked. They showed more urgency while we looked like we were playing a pre-season friendly, content to pass the ball about and not bother getting out of first or second gear.

    How many free-kicks, corners and throws did they have which were aimed at their centre-back Herring? And what did we do to negate his threat? Nothing. So it was no surprise that he set up their goal.

    Were it not for Randolph we'd have been two or three goals down at half-time and this was the player that Parkinson decided was not good enough to start last week.
  • Firstly, congratulations to Northwich Victoria (and thanks for making me some money)

    Now to the important stuff:

    What's changed HONESTLY since Charlton v Wycombe?

    Well, the manager, again and again.

    The board are employing and paying these managers, and still as fans we cling on to the glimmers of hope, when we know DEEP DOWN, that all the squads of UNMOTIVATED (apart from money) DISJOINTED TEAMS ruining the legacy of the Charlton shirt are really not that interested.

    This has been a cancer that started a year or so before Curbishley left. That's one hell of a lot of games ago now.

    What, get rid of Parkinson, and get the Board to appoint some other nonentity?

    MURRAY OUT.
  • So the club want to keep Parkinson and let Randolph go huh?
    On the evidence of today....need i say more?
  • well done to Northwich Victoria totally out played us
    our players should hang their heads in shame over paid not enough effort
    im going to get so much crap at work tomorrow thanks lads
  • [cite]Posted By: boggzy[/cite]
    What, get rid of Parkinson, and get the Board to appoint some other nonentity?

    MURRAY OUT.

    So you wouldn't have appointed Pardew? And you wouldn't have given Parky the job afterwards? because most Charlton fans would have done both. Lazy and crazy to lay all that blame at Murray's door. In my opinion.
  • most Charlton fans would NOT of given the job to Parky.

    Did you not see the threads on here regarding that at the time???
  • [cite]Posted By: JAKE0070[/cite]well done to Northwich Victoria totally out played us
    our players should hang their heads in shame over paid not enough effort
    im going to get so much crap at work tomorrow thanks lads

    Got it today:
    In the Golden Lion,with Spanners & weasels............
  • Well done Northwich thoroughly deserved win, hope you make some money off the back of this. As for that gutless bunch of tossers representing Charlton that was embarrassing, i am struggling to remember a game which was more embarrassing. Parky why did you play Mcleod and Shelvey together..... each of them has to play with a target man.... THEY CANNOT PLAY TOGETHER. Why was our midfield missing how Racon or Sam stayed on the pitch is beyond me. Why did we not compete with the big lump in the 1st half giving them the impetus. why did it take so long for you to make a change Parkinson ??....... hope this gives them the kick up the arse to go forward in the league but i fear we are on a slippery slope at the moment.
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  • [cite]Posted By: Buglehorn[/cite]Parky why did you play Mcleod and Shelvey together..... each of them has to play with a target man.... THEY CANNOT PLAY TOGETHER.

    That was the biggest problem for me. Burton needed a rest, McLeod can't play with Shelvey behind him (and isn't particularly good anyway) and McKenzie isn't fit.

    That and the midfield, completely went missing, well below what they're capable of at their best.
  • edited November 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Si[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: boggzy[/cite]
    What, get rid of Parkinson, and get the Board to appoint some other nonentity?

    MURRAY OUT.

    So you wouldn't have appointed Pardew? And you wouldn't have given Parky the job afterwards? because most Charlton fans would have done both. Lazy and crazy to lay all that blame at Murray's door. In my opinion.

    No. I wouldn't have appointed Dowie.
  • Oh c'mon how can we moan?

    It's only our 4th loss of the season....we're 2nd in the league (so the fact we've been shite 4 ages doesnt matter)....we don't do well in cups anyway....blah de blah. (oops sorry, forgot i'm not one of the rose tinted brigade). Not f*&$ing happy.
  • Get rid of Parkie NOW as we still have a good chance of going up..........leave it two months an we will drift away in which could mean us spending another 4 years where we crrently are........act now.........and get the right man in
  • [cite]Posted By: WhenIwasLittleBoy[/cite]Get rid of Parkie NOW as we still have a good chance of going up..........leave it two months an we will drift away in which could mean us spending another 4 years where we crrently are........act now.........and get the right man in

    And get in who?
  • [cite]Posted By: DRAddick[/cite]Oh c'mon how can we moan?

    It's only our 4th loss of the season....we're 2nd in the league (so the fact we've been shite 4 ages doesnt matter)....we don't do well in cups anyway....blah de blah. (oops sorry, forgot i'm not one of the rose tinted brigade). Not f*&$ing happy.
    Dunno why having a more rational opinion automatically qualifies someone as having rose tinted specs. Generally I'm not an optimist, but I agree with all your sarcastic comments before the blah de blah - because they are all true and very valid IMO.
  • [cite]Posted By: addick1965[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: WhenIwasLittleBoy[/cite]Get rid of Parkie NOW as we still have a good chance of going up..........leave it two months an we will drift away in which could mean us spending another 4 years where we crrently are........act now.........and get the right man in

    And get in who?

    Exactly.
  • I've already posted this in the match thread but as this one seems to be taking on the role of the Official Vent Your Spleen Here role...


    it's not actually that I get as angry as that watching a performance, having seen plenty of bad games over the decades I've been going. We showed absolutely no class, ambition, determination, skill, vision, tactical awareness or even BASIC ball control. I'm looking for an excuse not to blame Parky, as after all he wasn't out there, but as bad as the players were playing, he should be able to see what's going on and change it during the game and during the week. It's not happening is it?

    The bloke has been associated with absolutely the worst couple of years I can remember following CAFC starting with not winning a game as caretaker, then a pathetic attempt at keeping us up (longest losing streak?) and now losing to non-League for the first time ever. One match I know, but one other teams in a similar position would have approached in a professional manner and won, easily or with a bit of a scrap.

    I'm not the biggest believer in co-incidence and I fear now that Parky has used up every ounce of goodwill or start to the season generated for him and the next month is going to make or break our season and therefore possible long term future. Wednesday should be 'interesting'...
  • [cite]Posted By: addick1965[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: WhenIwasLittleBoy[/cite]Get rid of Parkie NOW as we still have a good chance of going up..........leave it two months an we will drift away in which could mean us spending another 4 years where we crrently are........act now.........and get the right man in

    And get in who?

    A goat.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Si[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: boggzy[/cite]
    What, get rid of Parkinson, and get the Board to appoint some other nonentity?

    MURRAY OUT.[/quote]

    So you wouldn't have appointed Pardew? And you wouldn't have given Parky the job afterwards? because most Charlton fans would have done both. Lazy and crazy to lay all that blame at Murray's door. In my opinion.[/quote]

    and you would have given Parky the job after pardew christ you r deluded
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  • [cite]Posted By: Si[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: DRAddick[/cite]Oh c'mon how can we moan?

    It's only our 4th loss of the season....we're 2nd in the league (so the fact we've been shite 4 ages doesnt matter)....we don't do well in cups anyway....blah de blah. (oops sorry, forgot i'm not one of the rose tinted brigade). Not f*&$ing happy.
    Dunno why having a more rational opinion automatically qualifies someone as having rose tinted specs. Generally I'm not an optimist, but I agree with all your sarcastic comments before the blah de blah - because they are all true and very valid IMO.

    They're true now, but some also like to be able to look ahead with the slightist optimism and there is nothing to suggest there is anything to be optimistic about. If you're only interested in the here and now then the points are rational. If you choose to look to the future aswell then they're not.
    (although how 'we never do well in cups anyway' can ever be seen as a rational opinion escapes me).
  • I am optimistic that Philip Parkinson goes in the next 24 hours.
    I am optimistic that Steve Waggott goes in the next 24 hours.
    I am optimistic that Izale Macloud goes in the next 24 hours.
    I am optimistic that i will feel like buying a season ticket next season.
    These are things to look forward to.
  • [cite]Posted By: DRAddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Si[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: DRAddick[/cite]Oh c'mon how can we moan?

    It's only our 4th loss of the season....we're 2nd in the league (so the fact we've been shite 4 ages doesnt matter)....we don't do well in cups anyway....blah de blah. (oops sorry, forgot i'm not one of the rose tinted brigade). Not f*&$ing happy.
    Dunno why having a more rational opinion automatically qualifies someone as having rose tinted specs. Generally I'm not an optimist, but I agree with all your sarcastic comments before the blah de blah - because they are all true and very valid IMO.

    They're true now, but some also like to be able to look ahead with the slightist optimism and there is nothing to suggest there is anything to be optimistic about. If you're only interested in the here and now then the points are rational. If you choose to look to the future aswell then they're not.
    (although how 'we never do well in cups anyway' can ever be seen as a rational opinion escapes me).

    Yes, you can look to the future as well. But you can't make decisions based on things that haven't actually happened yet. You make decisions FOR the future, but they are always based on things in the present.

    And that we never do well in cups is a perfectly rational opinion. And one you and I both share.
  • I'm not offering this as an excuse and I'm certainly not blaming the fans, but I wonder if the players would have played better if they'd had more support. I can't criticise the lack of support because I don't go to away games, but we obviously didn't take up our full allocation as the area of the stand with a few Charlton suppporters had loads of empty seats. Although it shouldn't matter, perhaps the players need the support from the fans. Although tv distorts things, I couldn't hear much noise from the Charlton fans.
  • We are just a small club from welling now.
  • 86 places between us and Northwich and they had their two best players out, I dont think another couple of hundred fans would have made that much difference. They were a crock of shyte against Jils and Colchester as well when we filed our allocation
  • [cite]Posted By: Harry Gregory[/cite]86 places between us and Northwich and they had their two best players out, I dont think another couple of hundred fans would have made that much difference. They were a crock of shyte against Jils and Colchester as well when we filed our allocation

    100% agree. They are professional players, paid a kings ransom to turn in a professional performance regardless of how many of us turn up to watch or otherwise. We should be more than capable of beating non-league sides (or at least looking like the pro's) in an empty stadium or a park pitch.
  • [cite]Posted By: Si[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: DRAddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Si[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: DRAddick[/cite]Oh c'mon how can we moan?

    It's only our 4th loss of the season....we're 2nd in the league (so the fact we've been shite 4 ages doesnt matter)....we don't do well in cups anyway....blah de blah. (oops sorry, forgot i'm not one of the rose tinted brigade). Not f*&$ing happy.
    Dunno why having a more rational opinion automatically qualifies someone as having rose tinted specs. Generally I'm not an optimist, but I agree with all your sarcastic comments before the blah de blah - because they are all true and very valid IMO.

    They're true now, but some also like to be able to look ahead with the slightist optimism and there is nothing to suggest there is anything to be optimistic about. If you're only interested in the here and now then the points are rational. If you choose to look to the future aswell then they're not.
    (although how 'we never do well in cups anyway' can ever be seen as a rational opinion escapes me).

    Yes, you can look to the future as well. But you can't make decisions based on things that haven't actually happened yet. You make decisions FOR the future, but they are always based on things in the present.

    And that we never do well in cups is a perfectly rational opinion. And one you and I both share.

    What an odd statement. Everyone continuously makes decisions on things that haven't happened yet for the future. Otherwise you'd never sack a manager who's team wins once in a while until you were actually relegated. Ok basing things solely on the present, we are playing very poorly and have been lucky not to lose recent games, not unlucky not to win them which to me is a big difference. so looking to the future or in the present things aren't as good as our league position says on paper.

    And no i don't think not doing well in cups is a rational arguement, dunno where you got that idea from. It's an excuse and a pathetic one.

    Right enough tit for tat otherwise we might as well start our own private thread :-)
  • those heady days of August and September are fast becoming a distant memory. The team's made no real progress during the last month or so, and 2 consecutive pisspoor showings against Carlisle and today has only accelerated the recent slide. I hope I'm wrong, but the way things are shaping up we'll be outside the top 5 by the end of the year, if not before.

    I'd love to know what Kevin Nolan makes of it all.
  • I actually said it was a rational opinion, not argument ;)

    I see what you mean, but managers are never sacked on potential failure - a manager who gets a team relegated would have done consistently poorly, so would be sacked earlier because of that. I'm just saying that we can't sack Parky when we are second in the league, regardless of how we are playing or how we THINK things might go.

    But yes, we'll agree to disagree on this one ;) Although I do quite like the idea of having our own thread...lol :)
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