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edited November 2009 in General Charlton
This is Charlton's fifteenth season in Tier three. On average in this league, Charlton win 41% of matches, and lose 34%.

We've been promoted from this league four times, prior to this season. In 1929, we won 55% and lost 26%; in the record-breaking 1935 season, it was 64% v 19%; in 1975, 48% v 28%; in 1981, 54% v 26%.

So far this season, we've won 53% and lost 13%. Well on course!

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  • 101101
    edited November 2009
    Must have taken you a while to work all this out unless you pulled it from a website nice stat though hope it comes true.
  • yep we're playing in the lowest tier we've occupied since being admitted to league football ;-(
  • [cite]Posted By: Ru1986[/cite]Must have taken you a while to work all this out unless you pulled it from a website nice stat though hope it comes true.
    Eighty years!
  • Blimey - you must be nearly as old as Colin Cameron!
  • 101101
    edited November 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Ru1986[/cite]Must have taken you a while to work all this out unless you pulled it from a website nice stat though hope it comes true.
    Eighty years!

    Nice :-)
  • [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]This is Charlton's fifteenth season in Tier three. On average in this league, Charlton win 41% of matches, and lose 34%.

    We've been promoted from this league four times, prior to this season. In 1929, we won 55% and lost 26%; in the record-breaking 1935 season, it was 64% v 19%; in 1975, 48% v 28%; in 1981, 54% v 26%.

    So far this season, we've won 53% and lost 13%. Well on course!

    Don't suppose you could break it down into monthly segments during the promotion years. Just so we can see what the peaks and troughs were. For instance was the current slump we are going through repeated in any of those seasons and at what point did we recover :-)
  • [cite]Posted By: Chaz Hill[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]This is Charlton's fifteenth season in Tier three. On average in this league, Charlton win 41% of matches, and lose 34%.

    We've been promoted from this league four times, prior to this season. In 1929, we won 55% and lost 26%; in the record-breaking 1935 season, it was 64% v 19%; in 1975, 48% v 28%; in 1981, 54% v 26%.

    So far this season, we've won 53% and lost 13%. Well on course!

    Don't suppose you could break it down into monthly segments during the promotion years. Just so we can see what the peaks and troughs were. For instance was the current slump we are going through repeated in any of those seasons and at what point did we recover :-)
    OK, you asked for it.

    In 1981 (last time we went up from tier three), the first slump was in September Won 1, Lost 4. Also, between 28 February and 21 April, we won two out of twelve.

    In 1975, we lost 7 of the first 20, but the big slump was much later on, winning only two of the last nine games.

    In the amazing 1935 season, we didn't really have a slump to speak of. However, even in that year, we lost the first game (so, after one game this season, we were already ahead); and there was a "blip" in January when we lost two in a row.

    In 1929, we started with a slump - we didn't win any of the first three games; from mid-November to mid-December, we went five games without a win; and in March, we lost three in five.

    So, we usually have a much bigger "slump" than we're currently experiencing (ie one defeat in a row). And we usually leave it later in the season, giving us less chance of recovering.

    We're well on course for promotion!
  • I am very impressed and heartened by this information. You need to make sure some of the CL 'doom and gloom' merchants see this!

    Any tips on when the economy will come out of recession :-)
  • in 1981 we had a certain Mr Hales up front !!!!!!!!
  • [cite]Posted By: golfaddick[/cite]in 1981 we had a certain Mr Hales up front !!!!!!!!
    Not in 1975, 1935 or 1929. So, in other words, we find it much easier to get promoted out of tier three when we don't have Derek Hales in the team.
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  • I feel like I've bred a whole league of statistical nut jobs !

    Great work Chizz, very interesting
  • One more thing. In the 1934/35 season, we played Northampton Town in Division Three (South) on 30 March and lost 1-0. That was the second time we had lost at home all season.

    We didn't lose another home game until October 1936, two and a half years and two divisions later.
  • AFKA said : "I feel like I've bred a whole league of statistical nut jobs !''

    I think we need a new permanent thread called 'statistical nut jobs' along the lines of 'taking threads away from their original subject' and 'brand new word thread'...
  • Actually if we are to get promoted we have to beat Carlisle away its written in blood on a wall somewhere----- i think its in the kebab shop near the Con Club (might be chilly sauce).
  • [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]
    [cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: golfaddick[/cite]in 1981 we had a certain Mr Hales up front !!!!!!!!
    Not in 1975, 1935 or 1929. So, in other words, we find it much easier to get promoted out of tier three when we[i aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]don't[/i]have Derek Hales in the team.

    I will drink to that.
  • Actually, a certain Mr Hales WAS in the 1975 team !!!
  • [cite]Posted By: alan dugdale[/cite]Actually, a certain Mr Hales WAS in the 1975 team !!!

    Damn, I will need to put my drink down
  • [cite]Posted By: alan dugdale[/cite]Actually, a certain Mr Hales WAS in the 1975 team !!!
    You're right. Let me put it another way. Charlton have been promoted seven times. Derek Hales was involved in two of those promtion years. So, we're more likely to get promoted without him, than with him. Ralph, pick your drink up again!
  • [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]
    [cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: alan dugdale[/cite]Actually, a certain Mr Hales WAS in the 1975 team !!!
    You're right. Let me put it another way. Charlton have been promoted seven times. Derek Hales was involved in two of those promtion years. So, we're more likely to get promoted without him, than with him. Ralph, pick your drink up again!

    Job done
  • But it was Paddy creating many of the chances: 43 appearances in '74/75 and an ever present in '80/81.
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  • [cite]Posted By: March51[/cite]But it was Paddy creating many of the chances: 43 appearances in '74/75 and an ever present in '80/81.
    And he's been ever-present for home games this season too!
  • [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: March51[/cite]But it was Paddy creating many of the chances: 43 appearances in '74/75 and an ever present in '80/81.
    And he's been ever-present for home games this season too!

    You get the match ball for that one Chizz.
    Great stats by the way.
  • Great stats and just goes to show that old cliche 'it's a marathon not a sprint' is true. We need to average 2 points a game and by definition average means there will times when we're getting more than that and times when we're getting less.

    I always find it odd that us Addicks tend to assume that a bad run will last forever and a good run will end any moment. We started the season with a favourable run of fixtures and filled our boots, now on a tougher run we've levelled out but if you look at the fixture list there are more 'easy' games on the horizon - so who is to say we won't go on another good run to more than make up for the poorer results of the last few weeks?

    Just think back to 99/00 - twelve wins on the bounce around Christmas and New Year and then couldn't buy a win from about March, but we still went up as Champions.
  • [cite]Posted By: RalphMilnesgut[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: alan dugdale[/cite]Actually, a certain Mr Hales WAS in the 1975 team !!!
    You're right. Let me put it another way. Charlton have been promoted seven times. Derek Hales was involved in two of those promtion years. So, we're more likely to get promoted without him, than with him. Ralph, pick your drink up again!

    Job done

    Take golfie's general point though. We have been blessed in the past with being able to find effective strikers. Hales, Flanagan, Paul Walsh, Super Clive, Andy Hunt, Benty. It is vital (stating the obvious I know) that we find someone like the aforementioned pretty sharpish.
  • Any chance of breaking it down to how many full moons within each period , and by how many dogs crossed the roundabout down by the Woolwich Ferry in the same sequence?...Thanks
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