Lets get one thing straight it was an awful game. It wasn't helped by the absolute pudding of a pitch. The rain obviously made it very heavy and to me the grass looked too long. Add to that a horrible swirling wind and you were never going to see a footballing classic. Incidently, does anyone know the dimensions of the pitch?. It looked tiny too me.
Thought Gillingham were worth their point, however, at no point did I think we were going to loose it. Wasn't overly impressed with Jackson - not at the 2m they are talking about anyway.
Didn't have a good view of the McLeod penalty incident, but reports say it was a stone waller. I don't think Mcleod is helping himself, he goes down very easily and in the last couple of games he has had pens turned down that might have been given had he not been "looking" for freekicks earlier in the game.
Very disappointed with our setplays today. Bailey's delivery was woeful. Perhaps a bit harsh as I am guessing the overhit ones were probably caught by the wind.
Defensively we were reasonably sound. Was surprised Richardson came out for the second half, he appeared to pull up with a thigh strain towards the end of the first half.
Thought we lacked a spark in midfield today. Lloyd Sam is starting to wind me up. The amount of times he is caught behind our full back when we are attacking down the right is criminal. Don't think he beat a player once today.
I thought against Huddersfield & Oldham that our support play was lacking. So many times our players find themselves isolated with little or no support. In the last few weeks our movement off the ball - especially infront of the player on the ball - has been non-existant.
Front two were not with it today either. Burton is clearly carrying this injury, his work rate has noticeably dropped off - he won nothing in the air today either. I think Len said elsewhere, you have to respect the fact that McLeod doesn't hide, for all of his many limitations he does stretch defences. Mooney looked ok when he came on.
Looking at Gillingham's home record before today 4-4-1 and only 4 goals against I would have been happy with a point, narks you a little that we took the lead late on and couldn't see the game out but all in all a useful point.
I thought the Gills pitch was bigger than the Valley despite comments. I checked. Priestfield is 114x75 and the valley is 112 by 73 so Priestfield wins in both directions. The closeness of the crowd gives the illusioon of being smaller.
Sat as a guest with the Gills fans which was interesting (and I must say they were all incredibly friendly, both those I knew and those whom were complete strangers). They were expecting to see the best team to visit the Priestfield so far this season and were very disappointed. They said both Colchester and Norwich were several classes better than us and reckoned that if we are automatic promotion candidates, there is no reason why they can't make the play-offs. I tried to tell them that they just got us on an off-day (and they were much amused when I told them about our agonising over whether it was a 'genuine' derby or not). But overall they were well happy.
Good atmosphere - a real derby feeling, almost a cup tie feel. Unfortunately, what happened on the field didn't live up to it. Conditions didn't help, but there was a real lack of skill out there today and too many of our 'gun players' were off-form, in all areas of the park. Youga lacked the confidence of recent weeks for some reason. Bailey and Sam were not so much anonymous as just anaemic and even Semedo seemed to go missing. Burton seemed to withdraw into his shell after his early booking and I thought we made the wrong substitution up-front. Burton should have gone off, not Izale, when Mooney came on. He hasn't scored in an age and he looks a shadow of the player who so surprised and delighted us all back in Aug/early Sept. Perhaps he should take some time out and go and have that hernia op. Mooney today looked like a more than decent replacement.
Sodje did a good job keeping Jackson quiet, but apart from him and Elliott , there weren't many heroes out there for us today. We really do need to start winning away - especially as over the next five weeks we have away games against three non-contenders at Carlisle, Yeovil and Brighton.
Despite others criticising the ref, I didn't think he was too bad. Certainly better than the idiots we had v Oldham and Huddersfield.
One the condition - blustery and wet
Two the pitch - like a pudding and the grass was Rugby Union length - far too long
Three a totally inept performance by the ref: what a tool!
Semedo our best player with Sodje and Dailly close behind.Youga and Elliot had good games.
As for the rest, not too much.
Really thought we'd mugged them for 3 points. Shame.
[quote][cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]Sat as a guest with the Gills fans which was interesting (and I must say they were all incredibly friendly, both those I knew and those whom were complete strangers). They were expecting to see the best team to visit the Priestfield so far this season and were very disappointed. They said both Colchester and Norwich were several classes better than us and reckoned that if we are automatic promotion candidates, there is no reason why they can't make the play-offs. I tried to tell them that they just got us on an off-day (and they were much amused when I told them about our agonising over whether it was a 'genuine' derby or not). But overall they were well happy.
Good atmosphere - a real derby feeling, almost a cup tie feel. Unfortunately, what happened on the field didn't live up to it. Conditions didn't help, but there was a real lack of skill out there today and too many of our 'gun players' were off-form, in all areas of the park. Youga lacked the confidence of recent weeks for some reason. Bailey and Sam were not so much anonymous as just anaemic and even Semedo seemed to go missing. Burton seemed to withdraw into his shell after his early booking and I thought we made the wrong substitution up-front. Burton should have gone off, not Izale, when Mooney came on. He hasn't scored in an age and he looks a shadow of the player who so surprised and delighted us all back in Aug/early Sept. Perhaps he should take some time out and go and have that hernia op. Mooney today looked like a more than decent replacement.
Sodje did a good job keeping Jackson quiet, but apart from him and Elliott , there weren't many heroes out there for us today. We really do need to start winning away - especially as over the next five weeks we have away games against three non-contenders at Carlisle, Yeovil and Brighton.
Despite others criticising the ref, I didn't think he was too bad. Certainly better than the idiots we had v Oldham and Huddersfield.[/quote]
Personally thought the ref started ok and was clearly trying to let the game flow. Unfortunately ignoring Gillingham players going through the back of Burton, McLeod & Bailey was ridiculous.
[quote][cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Point won but should have held out for the win.
Three main reasons why we didn't really get going
One the condition - blustery and wet Two the pitch - like a pudding and the grass was Rugby Union length - far too long Three a totally inept performance by the ref: what a tool!
Semedo our best player with Sodje and Dailly close behind.Youga and Elliot had good games.
As for the rest, not too much.
Really thought we'd mugged them for 3 points. Shame.[/quote]
Thought it was just me with the grass length. Pleased someone else noticed.
Gillingham definitely adapted to the conditions better than we did.
[quote][cite]Posted By: ray traecy[/cite]we were shit today full stop. i was in away end, cldnt hear charlton one bit. u all give it , but ur all full of shit. oh well , were charlton.[/quote]
You sure you weren't in the Rainham End?.
Such a well constructed argument could only have been put together by a Gills fan.
[cite]Posted By: Mike[/cite]Burton is a terrible player. How he didn't get subbed is beyond me!
Is this the same Burton that was being raved about just a short time ago? He obviously is not a terrible player but maybe he needs time off for the hernia op.
Happy with a point but need more from at least one of the next three away games.
Second half of this thread is like being back on netaddicks. Ray, you might be new, but it's generally not acceptable to offer someone out on the forum. Either you're a Gills fan or you seriously need to grow up.
Might I remind everyone else that we've lost once this season, our team cost practically nothing, and the idea that we should be dominating the league because it's the third tier is not really in line with the fact we finished rock bottom of the championship last season.
[cite]Posted By: Chunes[/cite]Might I remind everyone else that we've lostoncethis season, our team cost practicallynothing, and the idea that we should be dominating the league because it's the third tier is not really in line with the fact we finishedrock bottomof the championship last season.
... and if, at the start of the season, we had been offered 2nd place on 25th October everyone would have taken it.
It was definitely 2 points lost as we should never ever draw with such a bad side even in cr.p weather. Someone on the list said it was a point won because leeds lost ? I cannot understand that reasoning surely 3 points is what we needed. It seems that we cannot hold to a lead and that maybe just maybe Parkinson isn't the Messiah. He was doing really well at the beginning of the season so the doubters turned around and thought hey.. maybe the bloke is good enough after all. I don't think he is ... granted he has won several games... but the team now seems out of juice / ideas, its pointless earning 1 point and its becoming a trend for the team. Lucky Uddersfield are crap otherwise that would also have been a draw. Maybe the team should just play really well every two games and the young ones should play the others.. so we would pretty much be guaranteed 3 points every two game and if we are lucky the young ones would get a draw every now which would result to a better point per game ratio.
[cite]Posted By: ray traecy[/cite]we were shit today full stop. i was in away end, cldnt hear charlton one bit. u all give it , but ur all full of shit. oh well , were charlton.
Ray,
In the trouble today thread you told us you were in the upper tier of the home end "having a crack with the locals".
Can you explain your ability to be in two stands at the same time?.
[cite]Posted By: SE7 Expat[/cite]It was definitely 2 points lost as we should never ever draw with such a bad side even in cr.p weather. Someone on the list said it was a point won because leeds lost ? I cannot understand that reasoning surely 3 points is what we needed. It seems that we cannot hold to a lead and that maybe just maybe Parkinson isn't the Messiah. He was doing really well at the beginning of the season so the doubters turned around and thought hey.. maybe the bloke is good enough after all. I don't think he is ... granted he has won several games... but the team now seems out of juice / ideas, its pointless earning 1 point and its becoming a trend for the team. Lucky Uddersfield are crap otherwise that would also have been a draw. Maybe the team should just play really well every two games and the young ones should play the others.. so we would pretty much be guaranteed 3 points every two game and if we are lucky the young ones would get a draw every now which would result to a better point per game ratio.
Can't be bothered to pick the post apart.
Congratulations on posting the the most ridiculous comment of the day.
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I hope someone filmed it
I was in the first row so I couldnt do much when we scored.
I wonder what that fat boy is doing now, hmm
Lets get one thing straight it was an awful game. It wasn't helped by the absolute pudding of a pitch. The rain obviously made it very heavy and to me the grass looked too long. Add to that a horrible swirling wind and you were never going to see a footballing classic. Incidently, does anyone know the dimensions of the pitch?. It looked tiny too me.
Thought Gillingham were worth their point, however, at no point did I think we were going to loose it. Wasn't overly impressed with Jackson - not at the 2m they are talking about anyway.
Didn't have a good view of the McLeod penalty incident, but reports say it was a stone waller. I don't think Mcleod is helping himself, he goes down very easily and in the last couple of games he has had pens turned down that might have been given had he not been "looking" for freekicks earlier in the game.
Very disappointed with our setplays today. Bailey's delivery was woeful. Perhaps a bit harsh as I am guessing the overhit ones were probably caught by the wind.
Defensively we were reasonably sound. Was surprised Richardson came out for the second half, he appeared to pull up with a thigh strain towards the end of the first half.
Thought we lacked a spark in midfield today. Lloyd Sam is starting to wind me up. The amount of times he is caught behind our full back when we are attacking down the right is criminal. Don't think he beat a player once today.
I thought against Huddersfield & Oldham that our support play was lacking. So many times our players find themselves isolated with little or no support. In the last few weeks our movement off the ball - especially infront of the player on the ball - has been non-existant.
Front two were not with it today either. Burton is clearly carrying this injury, his work rate has noticeably dropped off - he won nothing in the air today either. I think Len said elsewhere, you have to respect the fact that McLeod doesn't hide, for all of his many limitations he does stretch defences. Mooney looked ok when he came on.
Looking at Gillingham's home record before today 4-4-1 and only 4 goals against I would have been happy with a point, narks you a little that we took the lead late on and couldn't see the game out but all in all a useful point.
Good atmosphere - a real derby feeling, almost a cup tie feel. Unfortunately, what happened on the field didn't live up to it. Conditions didn't help, but there was a real lack of skill out there today and too many of our 'gun players' were off-form, in all areas of the park. Youga lacked the confidence of recent weeks for some reason. Bailey and Sam were not so much anonymous as just anaemic and even Semedo seemed to go missing. Burton seemed to withdraw into his shell after his early booking and I thought we made the wrong substitution up-front. Burton should have gone off, not Izale, when Mooney came on. He hasn't scored in an age and he looks a shadow of the player who so surprised and delighted us all back in Aug/early Sept. Perhaps he should take some time out and go and have that hernia op. Mooney today looked like a more than decent replacement.
Sodje did a good job keeping Jackson quiet, but apart from him and Elliott , there weren't many heroes out there for us today. We really do need to start winning away - especially as over the next five weeks we have away games against three non-contenders at Carlisle, Yeovil and Brighton.
Despite others criticising the ref, I didn't think he was too bad. Certainly better than the idiots we had v Oldham and Huddersfield.
Three main reasons why we didn't really get going
One the condition - blustery and wet
Two the pitch - like a pudding and the grass was Rugby Union length - far too long
Three a totally inept performance by the ref: what a tool!
Semedo our best player with Sodje and Dailly close behind.Youga and Elliot had good games.
As for the rest, not too much.
Really thought we'd mugged them for 3 points. Shame.
Good atmosphere - a real derby feeling, almost a cup tie feel. Unfortunately, what happened on the field didn't live up to it. Conditions didn't help, but there was a real lack of skill out there today and too many of our 'gun players' were off-form, in all areas of the park. Youga lacked the confidence of recent weeks for some reason. Bailey and Sam were not so much anonymous as just anaemic and even Semedo seemed to go missing. Burton seemed to withdraw into his shell after his early booking and I thought we made the wrong substitution up-front. Burton should have gone off, not Izale, when Mooney came on. He hasn't scored in an age and he looks a shadow of the player who so surprised and delighted us all back in Aug/early Sept. Perhaps he should take some time out and go and have that hernia op. Mooney today looked like a more than decent replacement.
Sodje did a good job keeping Jackson quiet, but apart from him and Elliott , there weren't many heroes out there for us today. We really do need to start winning away - especially as over the next five weeks we have away games against three non-contenders at Carlisle, Yeovil and Brighton.
Despite others criticising the ref, I didn't think he was too bad. Certainly better than the idiots we had v Oldham and Huddersfield.[/quote]
Personally thought the ref started ok and was clearly trying to let the game flow. Unfortunately ignoring Gillingham players going through the back of Burton, McLeod & Bailey was ridiculous.
Three main reasons why we didn't really get going
One the condition - blustery and wet
Two the pitch - like a pudding and the grass was Rugby Union length - far too long
Three a totally inept performance by the ref: what a tool!
Semedo our best player with Sodje and Dailly close behind.Youga and Elliot had good games.
As for the rest, not too much.
Really thought we'd mugged them for 3 points. Shame.[/quote]
Thought it was just me with the grass length. Pleased someone else noticed.
Gillingham definitely adapted to the conditions better than we did.
You sure you weren't in the Rainham End?.
Such a well constructed argument could only have been put together by a Gills fan.
Happy with a point but need more from at least one of the next three away games.
Might I remind everyone else that we've lost once this season, our team cost practically nothing, and the idea that we should be dominating the league because it's the third tier is not really in line with the fact we finished rock bottom of the championship last season.
... and if, at the start of the season, we had been offered 2nd place on 25th October everyone would have taken it.
;-)
Point gained, they were the better team in my opinion.
probably one of the Bromley lot...
PMSL
Ray,
In the trouble today thread you told us you were in the upper tier of the home end "having a crack with the locals".
Can you explain your ability to be in two stands at the same time?.
Having a crack or talking out of it?.
Can't be bothered to pick the post apart.
Congratulations on posting the the most ridiculous comment of the day.