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Sam Sodje Missing Next 2 Games

edited October 2009 in General Charlton
Misses Barnet and Oldham

Flying out to play for Nigeria against Mozambique World Cup Qualifier
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  • Seems only fair. After all, Llera's gone missing for a few already.
  • Well it's great that he played (and so well today). I really liked him when he played for us a couple of years ago. I can't really understand why a player of his quality is not playing at least one Division higher. Still I hope he comes back from Nigeria fitter and even sharper.
  • [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]I can't really understand why a player of his quality is not playing at least one Division higher.
    I don't agree, I don't think he's that good. Very solid League One defender, decent lower Championship, nothing more for me.
  • Well two seasons ago he was on the books of a Premier League team. He plays for Nigeria, I'd put him a bit higher than lower championship.
  • And it didn't take long for Reading to realise he wasn't a Premier League player, he barely played for them. They had just been promoted and he was a cheap gamble.

    He's only got 4 or 5 caps I believe, it's a bit like saying Dickson plays for Ghana because he's got a couple of caps. Not like he's been a regular player for them.
  • And that Bob Carolges fella - aka Karim Bagheri - was clearly mustard as he had the world record for goals scored in an international match, or something like that.
  • [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]And that Bob Carolges fella - aka Karim Bagheri - was clearly mustard as he had the world record for goals scored in an international match, or something like that.

    Another one that Curbs let get away :-)
  • Thought the guy played really well for us and made a big difference, seeing this was his first game back in this side MOM to me....
  • Think he is a good Championship standard defender, needs a decent partner alongside him (Dailly for example), could be a miss against Oldham but at least it gives Llera a chance to make up for Tuesday and hopefully make a point
  • gutted that he can't make the next two games :(
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  • [cite]Posted By: Mike[/cite]gutted that he can't make the next two games :(
    Well at least one is only the Barnet game.

    I noticed Mambo didn't play for Welling on Saturday, wonder if we're bringing him back for Tuesday? Probably not but it's something we might consider.
  • Didn't even feature on the bench, ah well he's had a week's rest.
  • wouldn't replace Llera, bad man management that would be.
  • Didn't even get on the bench for Nigeria the weekend.
  • Huddersfield`s main striker is very good in the air-- i would play Sodje just because of that.
  • [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]wouldn't replace Llera, bad man management that would be.

    Why?

    Players get dropped, that's part of the game.

    If Sodje is the best player for the game then put him on.
  • Future comments in the preview thread for the game please?
  • [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]wouldn't replace Llera, bad man management that would be.


    Disagree with this. You play your best players and Sodje is clearly better than Llera. Fergie wouldn't keep Rio or Vidic on the bench and play Evans
  • if a player plays well and then gets dropped the next week and then required again and plays well again but is still dropped the next week they would get disillusioned, maybe even become a problem and then maybe their attitude is deemed to not be good enough and then you alienate them and they end up getting shipped off to Motherwell or Bristol Rovers. Sodje time will come naturally, either through Llera playing badly or through a suspension and then it'll be up to him to keep his place. Seeing as he didn't even make the Nigerian bench he should consider jacking international football in.
  • So by that logic you would keep Spring in the side, as he's played well, and not bring back Semedo?
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  • edited October 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]So by that logic you would keep Spring in the side, as he's played well, and not bring back Semedo?

    I'd start with Spring yes for man management reasons.

    However, looking at it pragmatically, Semedo is not going to have the match fitness to play 90 minutes in his first match back against arguably a top 6 side in this division.

    Spring to start and Semedo on at half time for Spring most likely but any midfielder (Jonjo maybe) who is looking jaded.
  • [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]So by that logic you would keep Spring in the side, as he's played well, and not bring back Semedo?

    yes. Wouldn't have said that two games ago but at Leeds and once again last week he was one of our better players. Just think that if a player plays well and you still drop him then what incentive is there to do well, train properly etc as you know at the end of the day it means diddly-squat. I'm not saying that it was the only problem with reagrd to Moo2 but I reckon it's what started it and certainly didn't help.
  • Start with Semedo and Spring; depending on Semedo's fitness. Then bring on Racon after fifty five mins if nothing is happening. Racon for me hasn't been forcing issues and at times been lazy the last few matches. Semedo's not a player to bring on to positively change matches, maybe shutout.

    I'd prob start with Sodje, whilst I'm not a fan of his cd partnering responsibilities I trust Dailly to sort him out and he brings energy to the team. As a team we lack a bit of zip.
  • Managers traditionally keep to the maxim, "never change a winning side".

    Well, with just 1 win in 6, even though we've only lost 1 match, it's not really any longer a winning side.
    We seem to have lost our edge.

    Apart from the Colchester calamity, we're reasonably tight at the back and not conceding, but we've not scored in 3 games. Strangely, since Semedo has been out of the side, we've not looked nearly so potent in attack.

    Burton has been playing on with various injuries and naturally doesn't seem to be so effective as he was in earlier matches.

    So my conclusion is ....... we're weaker than we were/should be right through the spine of the side.
    Maybe a brave decision needs to be made?
  • Sodje won't be back until today whereas LLera will have focussing on this game all week. Llera played well last week. I'd probably stick with Llera but will trust Parky's judement on this.
  • Llera was better last week but lets face it, Oldham hardly offered much of a threat. Sodje was superb against Leeds and in very difficult conditions stifled the threat of arguably the best striker force in the league therefore he has to play on sat. Llera against the likes of Jordan Rhodes and Theo Robinson scares me!
  • [cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]Sodje won't be back until today whereas LLera will have focussing on this game all week. Llera played well last week. I'd probably stick with Llera but will trust Parky's judement on this.

    I'd play Sodje if he arrived back at 5 to 3 on Saturday.Arguably best player on the pitch at Leeds.We'd prob have lost up there if Llera played.
  • edited October 2009
    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]if a player plays well and then gets dropped the next week and then required again and plays well again but is still dropped the next week they would get disillusioned, maybe even become a problem and then maybe their attitude is deemed to not be good enough and then you alienate them and they end up getting shipped off to Motherwell or Bristol Rovers. Sodje time will come naturally, either through Llera playing badly or through a suspension and then it'll be up to him to keep his place. Seeing as he didn't even make the Nigerian bench he should consider jacking international football in.

    God help us in next years World Cup then. If we get any injuries and the replacements do well they will stay in the team.

    Terry gets injured and Upson keeps his place.

    Rooney gets injured and Heskey keeps his place.

    I know what you're saying but don't agree. You play your best players if they are fit, on form and not a 'problem player'.
    You also don't seem to have taken into account Sodje getting disillusioned having been MOM at Leeds and him and everyone else knowing that he is better than Llera.
  • It's not about playing your best players.

    It is about playing your best team.
  • I miss him already - we looked better defensively at Leeds than we did at home to Boreham. So I'd play him week in week out if his work ethics good in training. He's a no nonsense defender, at the moment 50p head Miguel is the opposite of that.
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