Those of us that think McCleod is shite get slagged off for saying so.Some players can't do it a certain clubs and unfortunately Izale is a case in point.As i said on the match thread it aint going to happen,he will score goals for fun at another club but not ours.I give David Nugent today as a case in point couldn't score for toffee at Pompey goes to Burnley and gets 2 in first game.It's called sods law deal with it cut our losses me thinks.
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What you get slagged off for is suggesting that we should keep Dickson instead of him.
You are in effect slagging off our manager.
[quote][cite]Posted By: Barn Door Varney[/cite]That not a fact it's simply your opinion.[/quote]
no it's fact mate he misses for fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The horror.
Never going to work out with us, FFS give him a chance!
for someone who was barn door lisbie and now barn door varney when barn door mcloeod
For now we're in League One, unless we get someone on loan we don't have much better to put on the bench. Eventually both McLeod and Dickson will go and hopefully replaced by better players. Might not be until next summer though.
Hopefully McLeod will get a goal soon when he comes off the bench, will do his confidence some good. In the end he's still here because at least he actually wants to play for us, is willing to fight for his place and has shown that in training. Tuna has also worked hard and impressed. Dickson wants a regular place but hasn't done enough to deserve even a place on the bench.
Even if we don't have much quality up front - at least we have players that want to play for us and are willing to work for their place, and wait for their chance. That's all most of us wanted in the middle of last season.
In the opinion of the manager who led us through the worst set of results in our clubs history.
Dickson might not be the answer I agree, but McClown certainly isnt.
Who told you Dicko demanded a first team place? How can he do "enough" sitting in the Stand. There again his attitude is "so" bad that Gillingham are desperate to get him back and Lennie has been so put off by what Parky says about Dicko that he's only too keen to take him on loan. And how does Dicko demonstrate his "attitude" - scores two and sets up the other for the 63 minutes he's on the pitch.
All Managers make misjudgements when it comes to footballers even Fergie. The great ones swallow their pride and use their management skills to get the most out of their players. I'm really not convinced Parky is doing that when he prefers to have on the bench an untried kid (Tuna) who he clearly doesn't have enough faith to give even 10 minutes to or another striker (McCleod) who, unlike Dicko, hasn't proved himself at this level.
If I was Dicko I would be pretty pxxxed off too.
And the same manager who has played a huge role in a great start to the season.
Like I've said, I don't rate either of them
Gillingham would start him every game, he'd be happy there. In the end, he wants regular starts. He's ideal for clubs like Gillingham and Bristol Rovers, but we're doing well with the players we have.
He's not going to be happy just coming off the bench. Which is fair enough. At the moment we're unbeaten, we shouldn't be changing the team, shouldn't Dickson understand that? He might well do, so he's gone out on loan.
Maybe his attitude is fine, but he wants to start games, we're doing well and have no reason to change the team. He could wait, but doesn't want to. What could we do with a player that wants to start games but we don't need him to start games? Could just put him on the bench, but in the end he'll be looking for an opportunity to leave.
I'm afraid that if Mcleod doesn't come on an score in the 15 mins he has then he's never gonna please some people. If he's gonna come on for the las t 10/15 every game then I don't expect him to score that many. But then Burton plays the whole game and scores but it still doesn't please some people.
watching him in the highlights on beeb last night he took both goals excellently especially the 2nd, he laid on the 3rd with an excellent through ball,
i feel for him because regardless of what anyone tries to tell me he was not given a chance at our club, We had this 2 bob striker called luke varney who could not hit a cows arse with a banjo and yet he could still not get in, Dicko should have been given the chance last season alongside Burton, this seasonparky has gne 451 dicko can not play in that system and he has told me that, He was hoping that in games when 451 was not working he would get the nod ahead of mcleod it became obvious that was not the case he told me that too.
so he gave it attitude, attitude bourne from frustration how or what he did he never said but he knew it was too much and that he was not even going to make the bench, Dicko would score more goals in this league than Mcleod, Tuna and i would even bet that if he played the same amount of games as Deon he would out score him, he wont be doing it here for us and that is a shame.
BUT with players come issues and if his issues stop other players from being at their best in a team, i.e our midfield is not as effective then unless Dicko would score 40 goals in a season then he would not be worth keeping.
I would rather he was in the team than mcleod because i think mcleod is not as good as finisher but sometimes it is the better footballer that you need and maybe mcleod has more about him than Dicko
it is a brave decision by Parky if we have a lean spell and he goes on a run Brissle will be above us and then he could find himself in a real tough place with the fans again
Can anyone honestly say they've seen enough of either of them to judge? How do you know who'd be a better option when one of them is never seen and the other has been restricted to just 48 minutes of serious football this season? It is ridiculous to use previous seasons as a yardstck as the whole squad has come on leaps and bounds and there is no reason to think one or both of these players wouldn't have also developed.
One thing that I think McLeod brings from the little I've seen of him is a terrific pace. Bringing him on when everyone else is getting tired is useful not just because of what he can (or can't) do with the ball, but because that pace can be used to drag defenders away from other players.
McLeod, given the chance, plays that role very well
McLeod, given the chance, plays that role very well[/quote]
Oggy - how can you say that? He's never done it for us.
others at the club who are better judges than me have stated that dicko is one of the most natural finishers that we have but a problematic footballer.
where as i can only pressume that mcleod is a better footballer, i have seen more of mcleod than dicko and what i ave seen of mcleod is not very good he is quick granted but so was Varney and Varney imo was 2 bob for mcleod to be a worse finisher than Varney must have been hard
He's only really had late cameo roles though, Supa.
But there's something different about his mental approach this season.
And he's come on in a few late sub roles and been a real handful for defenders.
We do lack a bit of pace up front in our regular starting line up.
McLeod provides that and gives different options.
Maybe he just needs a starting run in the side, but he's not likely to get that just at the mo.
But whether or not he'll ever score again, well......
;o)
Not just yet. ;o)
has mcleod been given a run of 7/8 games in a row I dont remember . or did he under pardew.
That said he won't at the moment as parky is not going to change a winning team and righly so
That's right, Ledge.
Dickson had a reasonable run last year and some people were slagging him on here for being lazy and having a poor touch!!!
I think Dickson is an OK League One striker but he will never make a CCC striker because his touch and all-round game are not up to that standard - neither is McLeod's either in all likelihood.