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NO TAKEOVER

edited September 2009 in General Charlton
I am pretty sure there will be no takeover unless there are big decisions soon, which have not happened yet.
I heard on the grapevine, and therefore treat this post as rumour with speculation that I can't verify, that there are actually more than two parties interested in taking over, though I don't know the make up of them....this suggests to me that the wall of silence is the preferred position of those selling rather than different groups bidding.
I understand that there is a huge gap between what is offered and what the current owners will accept.
I also understand that there is a decision to not decide, and to shore things up on the expectation of promotion, where it is hoped that as a championship club, Charlton will be easier to sell....in the meantime Charlton are leaking money, and additionally the present (non-football) management structure will continue.
I don't know if the supporters will be formally told this, but there is perhaps a time limit on the wall of silence, or there ought to be, otherwise the situation will become absurd and the takeover thread will reach 10,000 before we hear more.
With regard to the non-football paid leadership structure at the club, perhaps the members of the fans forum might like to enquire if it is true that the wages of just three club employees account for very nearly a quarter of the entire income from season ticket sales. If a kosher fans forum member wants to whisper me I will suggest the names of those three club employees who drain in my estimation £500,000 of club money in wages. The fans forum members may also wish to enquire as to whether we get half a million squids worth of value from those three individuals.

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  • We all know Waggott gets paid £495,000 so who are the other 2 on £2,500 each?
  • it was suggested at Bromley that those three excutives earned 500k between them (and we all know who they are) and although he refuted it was that much RM didn't say it wasn't close to that. He also said Nigel Capelin was leaving soon after seeing through a 'special project' but seeing as he also told us Parky was going to be sacked I'd take that with a pinch of salt too. What is undeniable is that a League 1 Club does not need, nor cannot sustain, three executives of their level. It also cannot be denied that a fair few season tickets would have to be sold to pay their salaries.

    As for the takeover, I'm pretty sure we'd have lost a player or two if it was definately off as the Board cannot sustain the current losses for much longer. My guess is it is still ongoing but if it does fail sales are certain in January.
  • edited September 2009
    IMHO - it is still going on, that is why no one left in the window.

    We got lucky with Turner and that is why we saw McKenzie & Sodje come in.
  • wait until january or maybe december before you let this really get to you there is not much we can do about it anyway
  • [cite]Posted By: Clem_Snide[/cite]IMHO - it is still going on, that is why no one left in the window.

    We got lucky with Turner and that is why we saw McKenzie & Sodje come in.

    They only came in when Fleetwood and Moo2 left.

    But I'd agree that it is still on-going, if it was off the Board would make an announcement to that effect, what the delays are, who knows.
  • [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Clem_Snide[/cite]IMHO - it is still going on, that is why no one left in the window.

    We got lucky with Turner and that is why we saw McKenzie & Sodje come in.

    They only came in when Fleetwood and Moo2 left.

    But I'd agree that it is still on-going, if it was off the Board would make an announcement to that effect, what the delays are, who knows.

    Have to disagree. Both could be back in 4-5 months. New signings are here till the end of the season. Really think the Turner windfall was a major factor.
  • I know Zabeel aint put a bid in as I know someone whos cousin works for them in Dubai, although I could make a trip there and persuade them to put a bid in, and rescue my friends cats at the same time.
  • Fleetwood is on a season long loan, Moutaouakil is on a six month loan, so we won't have either on our books officially until late in the year. I suspect, but I don't know for sure, that we may be picking up some of their wages - particularly Moutaouakil's.
  • my mate works at mcdonalds and they haven't put a bid in either.
  • [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]it was suggested at Bromley that those three excutives earned 500k between them

    .[/quote)

    NO it fucking wasnt. It was suggested by addickted that it was 400k and RM said it wasnt.

    F
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  • [cite]Posted By: NathanPrior[/cite]I know Zabeel aint put a bid in as I know someone whos cousin works for them in Dubai, although I could make a trip there and persuade them to put a bid in, and rescue my friends cats at the same time.
    you do not know that at all! I doubt anyone but the people involved in either party know I.e the directors!
  • [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: NathanPrior[/cite]I know Zabeel aint put a bid in as I know someone whos cousin works for them in Dubai, although I could make a trip there and persuade them to put a bid in, and rescue my friends cats at the same time.
    you do not know that at all! I doubt anyone but the people involved in either party know I.e the directors!

    I suspect that at times Nathan doen't even know what his own name is or where he was born........
  • [cite]Posted By: ThreadKiller[/cite]my mate works at mcdonalds and they haven't put a bid in either.


    Your mate!! wouldn't answer to the name of Ron, would he? ;)
  • [cite]Posted By: NathanPrior[/cite]I know Zabeel aint put a bid in as I know someone whos cousin works for them in Dubai, although I could make a trip there and persuade them to put a bid in, and rescue my friends cats at the same time.


    Maybe you could phone them?
  • BFR you are cruel you know he can't use a phone!
  • [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]it was suggested at Bromley that those three excutives earned 500k between them

    .[/quote)

    NO it fucking wasnt. It was suggested by addickted that it was 400k and RM said it wasnt.

    F

    so it could have been 500k then. Either way the case is still that we don't need all three of them. Cuts have been made everywhere except amongst the Chiefs.
  • nice to have a chat with a director in pub before the game. Have to say tho he is rubbish with the gossip! Tried a head lock an all.
  • Shared a tube carriage with Derek Chappell on the way back - didnt speak but he was with a smartly dressed group of young lads, who I assume would be junior chappells. Therefore, I can say the takeover is definitely ON because it was obviously a last family day out in the directors box for them all. Or not. Maybe.

    He looked very tired, I thought.
  • edited September 2009
    What Seth wrote to start this thread is similar to what I have heard recently about a potential takeover. That there are multiple parties interested, and that they are not close to offering what the board think the club is worth.

    It was thought that the board was skint and had no more cash to invest, but they apparently came up with some (Hatter? Murray? Perhaps one more?) in the hopes that a promoted side is worth considerably more back in The Championship next season.

    I don't know how much longer they can hold on, or hold out, without a takeover or another infusion of cash that they really don't want to throw in.

    They are taking a gamble, but they also know what the club is worth in the Premier League, in The Championship and what the potential is. So they don't want to sell it on the cheap, and not get what they believe would be a reasonable return.

    It is obvious that more money will be needed, since the club in League 1 is almost certainly going to continue to bleed money.

    It will be interesting to see how much longer this can go on without a takeover of some kind.

    If it drags on into the New Year, and promotion still looks on the cards in January, will they hold on to the key players and perhaps stump up even more to push for promotion?
    And if it is slipping, would there be a deal before a fire sale, or a fire sale before a deal?

    I think the bottom line is that while there are interested parties, that nothing appears to be immanent.
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  • what i heard as well AA
  • Well I havn`t heard anything but it seems fairly obvious now that there is a definite impasse between sellers and potential buyers. If the "in the know" posts above are correct and I see no reason to disbelieve them then the current board are indeed taking a huge gamble. Things are looking good at the moment on the pitch but we must remember that we are only at the bottom of a very long division one hill. Things can soon go wrong in football as we all know. To hold out in the hope that promotion comes is a very dangerous strategy. Just ask Leeds and prior to that Forest how easy it is to get out of this division. Failure to gain promotion without significant new investment would ensure the departure of our much admired midfield and could very well mean a very prolonged stay in the third teir. It will certainly be very interesting to see this one unfold and speaking as just a humble supporter I sincerely hope that those holding all the cards are able to get things sorted. I am convinced this one will run and run. Still a huge worry for our club as a whole. Thank goodness that what is happening on the pitch is very promising and likely to deflect our attention from the worrying state of our football club off the pitch. Three non playing employees at 500k is lunacy and must be addressed as a priority.
  • claiming a few brownie points
  • erm hardly rocket science tho eh...

    :D
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