Narwich get relegated, last day of the season, whilst we knew we were down for months. Since 3rd May Narwich have :
fans get Chief Exec and Board Member ousted
review season, reappoint Gunn as Manager
appoint new Chief Exec, ex Fulham
sign three new players (maybe on'es we were after too)
We have :
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So they have reappointed the manager that got them relegated and signed 3 players who I presume you are saying are very good (but I wonder if you know whether they are good or cack). I've certainly not heard of them.Great signings from Exeter, Hartlepool and MK Dons? Maybe ,maybe not.
But they have ousted the chief executive and a board member. Boy have we got some catching up to do :-)
They've only stolen a march on us if we wanted to sign the 3 players( that I doubt if hardly any of us have heard of). Hopefully we're getting Llera that they wanted.
It's really starting to get on my nerves how much everyone is getting on Parkinson's back now.. I've sat here and read it for the past couple of weeks but I feel I need to speak up now.
First off, Bryan Gunn had 19 games in charge, not a few. But that's not the point I wanted to make. Everyone seems to be venting their frustration at Parkinson right now. It's obvious he's staying (which I'm pleased about) so what is all this negativity gonna do other than damage the club, it's not gonna benefit the team, or even yourselves in any way at all.
To be honest, I don't think Parkinson did a terrible job. Despite trying to stay optimistic, I always felt we were destined for League 1 before he was even given the position and to get the players playing as a team once again (which I felt he did a superb job of in the end) would have been my priority if I was in his shoes. Pardew ruined us, Parkinson is rebuilding. I don't buy the idea that Parkinson played a huge role in the Pardew set-up other than possibly in warm-ups and training, and we can take Parkinson's selection of Racon nearly every game during his reign so far compared to Pardew as an example of that.
We can't let him go now, there WERE improvements on the pitch. Results perhaps don't back that up but I just have a feeling in my gut that letting this man go would be a big mistake.
I personally think he did do a terrible job, he isn't the worst Manager in Charlton history for no reason, and I'm sitting thinking that with that tit in charge we are going nowhere, at least nowhere upwards. Oh well, time will tell.
He didn't get the results perhaps, but he got the players believing again, with a confidence to play football which boades well for the season ahead if he can bring in the players he wants.
But for all the improvements which I agree were there we still weren't winning anywhere like enough games.
I like Parky and I still think he'll be a successful manager but maybe not with us. If he is still manager in August then I will want him to be a success because I want Charlton to be a success.
Abysmal run of results, negative tactics and got us relegated. And even if as you say he wasnt really involved in pardews bad management he should have had the nous to rectify what he had witnessed for all that time.
He didnt. Starting the season with him as manager is either the board putting two hands up and saying we havent got a scooby what we are doing or we dont want to spend another penny on managerial fiascos.
Cant remember feeling so depressed at the start of a campaign for a long time and 90% of that is cos its the same guy at the helm.
Spot on re Youga.
A guy who sits near me went to a fans meeting Youga attended and said that he had said he never knew what Pardew wanted from him. In those circumstances it is hardly surprising Kelly lost confidence.
Don't forget Pardew shunted him to Scunthorpe and only got him back because we had so many injuries. He then tried to claim the credit when Kelly played well on his return.
Callum you are largely right. Dowie started the ruination process, Les Reed was powerless to stop it and Pardew accelerated it. Parkinson has been left to try and pick up the pieces.
It should also not be forgotten that a lot of our better players like Parky which just might be the difference between them staying and going.
That's a bit harsh, when you consider the last game and that this thread is about Norwich and us.
Talking about the bigger picture. He is the worst manager we have had in terms of results and as much of a top guy he comes across as he isnt the right man for the job. He may do well elsewhere but he hasnt obviously hasnt got the chemistry with the current players to keep us out of the 3rd tier of english football.
Respect everyones opinion of course but i am actually really suprised at the level of apathy and acceptence about him still being in the job.
Another point I wanted to make but forgot, thank you.
Parky was always on a loser given the money Dowie and Pardew spunked between them.
Hence Spring on a free was about all he could run to!
Who says he can't still turn it around?
I'd have Curbs' babies (unless ohh ah beat me to it) but he and Gritty were given time. Something Parky has not really had.
A manager's 1st signing is always a signal to the fans, board and other players his intentions.
His 1st signing was, *winces*, Deon Burton.
Possibly right bloke, wrong timing.
I really hope for the clubs sake he proves me wrong but if we arent in the top six by christmas then i cant see how much more time he should get.
To add to that, I think they inherited a team of guy's, that most of would have run through walls for the club.
I really think it was probably worse behind the scenes than we realised. We thought a new manager could come in and instantly change it around, but I don't think it would have been done as easily as it was at Derby, Forest, Watford etc. Little quality up front, several players seriously lacking confidence, not just Youga, Sam and Ambrose to name a few. Not much cover in defence, at full back as well as centre back. We were already well on our way to League One, whether or not we were in the relegation zone at the time.
He made mistakes but he should learn from them, ie bringing in Spring, but towards the end of the season he was lucky to get on the bench.
I'm not saying he's definitely going to do a good job, there's a lot to do, but it'll help if fans get behind him. Last season we had players scared of making mistakes. Parkinson had to fix that and he was doing it slowly.
Which is the sort of squad Parkinson would try to build.
Whoever is our manager next season, they will need a fair share of our existing squad to stay and have some of the funds made available, as and when we get around to selling a few.
We should be careful what we wish for. A familiar face, some consistency with regards to style of play, team selection and the fact we have no money to appoint anybody I think could do a better job, leads me to believe that we should get behind him and give him a chance to prove the less endered wrong.
I won't be singing his name if he is around in August, but equally I'll be getting behind the team and not slagging him off the first time we concede a goal or lose a game.
Whoever is our manager next season, they will need a fair share of our existing squad to stay and have some of the funds made available, as and when we get around to selling a few.
We should be careful what we wish for. A familiar face, some consistency with regards to style of play, team selection and the fact we have no money to appoint anybody I think could do a better job, leads me to believe that we should get behind him and give him a chance to prove the less endered wrong.
I won't be singing his name if he is around in August, but equally I'll be getting behind the team and not slagging him off the first time we concede a goal or lose a game.
Where else was he going to get a player of his experience, available without paying out a substantial transfer fee, and willing to sign a contract at a club doomed to relegation?
Remember he was trying to get Wayne Brown fom Hull City?
He'd been Parky's promotion skipper at Colchester, and later skippered Hull to promotion to the Prem.
Contract and money was the issue there apparently.
Okay, he got Darren Ward instead, who showed a 1st class attitude for a loan player, so full marks there.
Who wanted to come to Charlton in January?
Not many and certainly if they had any quality, available players were raising their sights higher.
Bouazza jumped ship for more or less that reason.