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This 'Period of Nothingness'

Who knows, something may well be just around the corner.

But you can't help feel that this period of nothingness is probably the most depressing since i started following the club. The worst season i have seen finished nearly 3 weeks ago, and in real terms weeks before that. A season that has left the non-committed floating away, and the committed left disillusioned.

The minute the final whistle blew at the Norwich game, we needed to hit close season / pre season with a bang. A statement of intent that there will be no more decline, whether new investment or not.

Instead, we sit hit patiently hoping for some sign, any sign that some form of change is around the corner. Or if there is to be no change, some direction as to how we are to attack the season ahead.

The management haven't a clue what is happening, but in some cases have already cleared their stuff according to some accounts. How have player targets for next season been identified ? Who is identifying them ? Who is making all the calls, chasing clubs and agents ? I doubt its Parkinson or Kinsella, and who can blame them.

Some things really need to be announced in the next few days. The club needs to pull out a massive PR operation this summer, and the longer the silence continues, the shorter the timeframe will become for getting things right.
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  • Its exactly that AFKA that some have interpreted as proof that something is going on but I for one am not convinced it is nothing more than an effort to allow things to diffuse in the general apathy of the summer.
  • Agreed AFKA, and not helped by the fact the 'Big Clubs' go on for another 4 weeks. Depressing isn't it.
  • If the Arabs came back in for us, would we have to go through another period of due dilligence or could it just be announced that we have been taken over?
  • Dan....It's stating the obvious I know..... but I think it all hinges on whether or not a takeover comes to fruition....in truth they don't know what to say yet as they don't know what sort of money is(or isn't) going to be on the table.
    Until a takeover is confirmed or denied then I can't see anyone saying Jack Shy*e to be honest......but then I think you already realise that.
    We/they (the board that is), are caught well and truly between a rock and a hard place.
  • The silence is deafening
  • in footballing terms the season is still very much alive for some clubs and nothing much ever seems to happen publicly until July usually ........ hopefully by then we'll know if Michael Ancram is allowed to flip his second home to The Valley and use his expenses to buy back Darren Bent.
  • [cite]Posted By: SoundAsa£[/cite]We/they (the board that is), are caught well and truly between a rock and a hard place.

    And that is exactly the crux of the problem.

    There is absolutely zero guarantee that any of the alleged takeover interest will materialise into firm bids, acceptable bids or completion. Or any form of time frame that will deliver an end product. Some of the rumoured interest has allegedly been there for months, not weeks, and for as much as we know, still no nearer to sealing a deal.

    At appears that at this present time, we have no workable strategy going forward. We as a club have no idea on realistic budgets, or who may be the manager. How much longer can that realistically go on for ? Another day ? Another week ? Another month ?

    We are in a very dangerous limbo, and another week can easily turn into another. Before you know it the players will be back for pre-season, and realistic available players may have been snapped up by other clubs.
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    [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Who knows, something may well be just around the corner.

    But you can't help feel that this period of nothingness is probably the most depressing since i started following the club. The worst season i have seen finished nearly 3 weeks ago, and in real terms weeks before that. A season that has left the non-committed floating away, and the committed left disillusioned.

    The minute the final whistle blew at the Norwich game, we needed to hit close season / pre season with a bang. A statement of intent that there will be no more decline, whether new investment or not.

    Instead, we sit hit patiently hoping for some sign, any sign that some form of change is around the corner. Or if there is to be no change, some direction as to how we are to attack the season ahead.

    The management haven't a clue what is happening, but in some cases have already cleared their stuff according to some accounts. How have player targets for next season been identified ? Who is identifying them ? Who is making all the calls, chasing clubs and agents ? I doubt its Parkinson or Kinsella, and who can blame them.

    Some things really need to be announced in the next few days. The club needs to pull out a massive PR operation this summer, and the longer the silence continues, the shorter the timeframe will become for getting things right.

    Can't disagree, I and a few others have been arguing for a statement of intent at the very least, (for the best or worse reasons) the slide continues - to who knows where. Its a gut feeling but for over a year now this club has been on very shaky ground in terms of leadership from above.


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    Kinda makes you think something big must be going on tho..
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: SoundAsa£[/cite]We/they (the board that is), are caught well and truly between a rock and a hard place.

    And that is exactly the crux of the problem.

    There is absolutely zero guarantee that any of the alleged takeover interest will materialise into firm bids, acceptable bids or completion. Or any form of time frame that will deliver an end product. Some of the rumoured interest has allegedly been there for months, not weeks, and for as much as we know, still no nearer to sealing a deal.

    At appears that at this present time, we have no workable strategy going forward. We as a club have no idea on realistic budgets, or who may be the manager. How much longer can that realistically go on for ? Another day ? Another week ? Another month ?

    We are in a very dangerous limbo, and another week can easily turn into another. Before you know it the players will be back for pre-season, and realistic available players may have been snapped up by other clubs.

    If things are as uncertain as you say they 'might' be then we are indeed up shy*e creek without a paddle!
    I still live with the hope that they know something is about to happen that will make all other plans that they announce redundant....but then I am always the eternal optimist!
  • well as it was from xmas getting more and more certain we would be going down ........you would hope that the board would have been planning for worse case but of course hoping for best.............so worse has occured ........open up the safe and take out plan * Worse case * and start implementing it..........i guess thats what is happening.........

    then again i think a lot of us have proberly done more planning looking at bournemeouth away than the board may have done ( Joking )
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  • As somebody said previously,'damned if they do damned if they don't' situation.Obviously something going on.Just chill out.No disrespect,but I'm sure if we did get a few quid behind us it would take all of about 15 minutes to assemble a side to compete in league one. Relax.Summers here.
  • Think the club need to try to sort this out sooner rather than later. The club rang me today to sort out the season ticket and they told me that onle 3000 tickets have been sold so far!!!!
    Think people are waiting for parky to go
  • I'm not waiting for parky to go - we need a statement of intent
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]I'm not waiting for parky to go - we need a statement of intent

    Pardew was always good for a statement of intent.
  • ha ha true, but we need one anyway.

    :)
  • If it is true that as of today only 3,000 s/t holders have renewned, how does that stack up against other years?

    It could be good news or bad news - doesn't mean anything without some comparative figures.

    Even then comparisons won't be entirely fair as you have to take into account the early renewal incentive schemes of past years.

    My gut feeling is that 3,000 is low as a representation of the hardcore support who can be relied upon to renew almost as soon as the forms are sent out. But I may be wrong...perhaps it is actually a v respectable figure?
  • Dan, re your original post, tbf it's only been 16 days since the season ended. If there's any takeover going on I don't necessarily expect it to be concluded until early June, so we need to be patient. I do of course agree with all you say.
  • Read several comments now about the Arab's taking over and have to ask, does anyone genuinely believe that the Arabs will now come back in for CAFC? I'm not saying that it wont happen.....but am curious as it seems an odd time for them to come back in for CAFC? Unless they are getting an exceptional price..............
  • The thing that bothers me is that the club's silence on any rumoured takeover doesn't do anything at all to convince me that anything is going on behind the scenes, on that front. The club are often reactive rather than proactive when it comes to communicating with the fans. Not coming out with a statement of intent could just as easily be bad communication and lack of foresight rather than silence due to takeover talks.

    On the other hand, if it is just poor communication then the club may well be working hard to sort things out regarding players and managers behind the scenes but they've not got to telling us about it yet.
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    [cite]Posted By: son of selhurst[/cite]Read several comments now about the Arab's taking over and have to ask, does anyone genuinely believe that the Arabs will now come back in for CAFC? I'm not saying that it wont happen.....but am curious as it seems an odd time for them to come back in for CAFC? Unless they are getting an exceptional price..............

    No one knows if there are any Arabs out there looking to take over, or if there are whether they are the same Arabs as before, if there is a take over on the cards from non-arabs or even if there is any realistic take over happening at all.

    So any speculation on price is all a bit pointless. Clearly the club is "worth" less than last year or 3 years ago but anything is only ever worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

    I would have a bet that CAFC is still worth more that Palace. Not that Jordan is worried as he sold it a long time ago.
    [cite]Posted By: BBClaus[/cite]The thing that bothers me is that the club's silence on any rumoured takeover doesn't do anything at all to convince me that anything is going on behind the scenes, on that front.

    Yet some see that as evidence that something is happening.

    Personally I think it means neither. If a deal is "close" it will be confidential and they will want to keep it as quiet as possible until it is done. If nothing is happening then there is nothing to say. They may even want to keep quiet as that may help to bring in other buyers.

    We know Rothchilds are working for the Club and we know it's up for sale. If someone wants to buy it then they can, if they can agree a price.
    [cite]Posted By: BBClaus[/cite] The club are often reactive rather than proactive when it comes to communicating with the fans

    I disagree. I think the Club communicates much more than most and goes out of its way to find ways to communicate. They are not perfect and they make mistakes but they don't often mislead and rarely make announcements ahead of time. Even the example of Derek Chappell's now infamous "he'll be judged on results" comment shows this as this was made a public meeting that anyone could attend, where he and Steve Waggott took unscripted questions from the floor and was then openly reported on the internet

    Personally I would rather have the current situation of no news on the "takeover" than say that at Southampton where take overs are forever "two days" away or the club goes under, etc, etc and I would rather learn we've signed a player when we actually have rather than constant speculation that we "might/could/are close to/about to sign".

    I wish we could move forward and knew exactly who the boss is, in the board room and the manager's office, now but we don't so in the meantime....
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  • BB Claus wrote : "The thing that bothers me is that the club's silence on any rumoured takeover doesn't do anything at all to convince me that anything is going on behind the scenes, on that front.''

    Well there might have been silence regarding any detail. But a quick perusal of Parkinson's pronouncements during the final two weeks of the season reveal at least five references to a putative takeover. That seems like quite a lot of confirmation that talks are taking place to me.

    Mind you, I've no idea what Parkinson's status is at the moment. Wasn't he confirmed as manager until the end of the season? That was nearly two weeks ago and no decision has yet been taken on extending his tenure - or if it has, then that decison has certainly not been publicly announced. So whether or not we formally even have a manager at this moment, I am not entirely sure!
  • [cite]Posted By: nigel w[

    Mind you, I've no idea what Parkinson's status is at the moment. Wasn't he confirmed as manager until the end of the season? That was nearly two weeks ago and no decision has yet been taken on extending his tenure - or if it has, then that decison has certainly not been publicly announced. So whether or not we formally even have a manager at this moment, I am not entirely sure!

    The announcement on his appointment didn't mention him as being only appointed until the end of the season. Unless there were subsequent additions to the details below...

    the overwhelming feeling was that Phil was the best man to lead us and rescue us from our current plight.
  • Parky did say at the end of the season, that he thought his position would continue for the "next few weeks",so he and we should hear something soon.
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Who knows, something may well be just around the corner.

    But you can't help feel that this period of nothingness is probably the most depressing since i started following the club. The worst season i have seen finished nearly 3 weeks ago, and in real terms weeks before that. A season that has left the non-committed floating away, and the committed left disillusioned.

    The minute the final whistle blew at the Norwich game, we needed to hit close season / pre season with a bang. A statement of intent that there will be no more decline, whether new investment or not--------------


    Good post, sums up just how I was thinking. The silence from the club could be an indication 'something is afoot' as regards a takeover of course. My concern is the indication of divisions in the boardroom. Derek Chappel in particular concerns me as we seem to have lost the single direction that Murray seemed to lead previously.
  • my concern is that this peroid of nothingness will drag on for another couple of weeks, any possible takeover will collapse and then we are behind the game. Surely the Club should act as though no investment is coming in and carry on with business as normal. The silence from the Boardroom is deafening and some sort of statement of intent is required. Season ticket sales need a boost and fans need some reassurance that we are planning to get out of League 1 as soon as is possible. The current situation is helping no-one.
  • Oakster wrote: ''The announcement on his appointment didn't mention him as being only appointed until the end of the season. Unless there were subsequent additions to the details.''

    I think there were, Oakster. According to the report from the fans forum meeting in April :

    ''we were told Parkinson has an assistant manager contract for another 12 months and the position would be reviewed at the end of the season.''

    As I understand it, he was contracted until the end of 2009 as manager, whereupon he formally reverts to his original and still unrevoked three and a half year contract as assistant manager until said review decides whether or not his tenure as manager is extended.

    Perhaps I've got that wrong. But that appears to be what the fans fourm report was saying.
  • [cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]BB Claus wrote : "The thing that bothers me is that the club's silence on any rumoured takeover doesn't do anything at all to convince me that anything is going on behind the scenes, on that front.''

    Well there might have been silence regarding any detail. But a quick perusal of Parkinson's pronouncements during the final two weeks of the season reveal at least five references to a putative takeover. That seems like quite a lot of confirmation that talks are taking place to me.

    Mind you, I've no idea what Parkinson's status is at the moment. Wasn't he confirmed as manager until the end of the season? That was nearly two weeks ago and no decision has yet been taken on extending his tenure - or if it has, then that decison has certainly not been publicly announced. So whether or not we formally even have a manager at this moment, I am not entirely sure!

    Parkinson's announcements during the last two weeks of the season, and his very public pitch for the manager job next season after the last game, point to him believing that Charlton will have new owners before the start of next season. If he did not believe that there would be new owners before next season he would not have felt the need to publicly state his credentials for the job. If he felt there was not going to be a change of ownership surely he would have made his case privately to the existing owners.
  • Parkinson's announcements during the last two weeks of the season, and his very public pitch for the manager job next season after the last game, point to him believing that Charlton will have new owners before the start of next season. If he did not believe that there would be new owners before next season he would not have felt the need to publicly state his credentials for the job. If he felt there was not going to be a change of ownership surely he would have made his case privately to the existing owners.

    I'm not sure that would be the case, wasn't Parky's comments equally aimed at the fans , to garner acceptance for him to remain as manager.
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