i dont know enough about politics henners but i have enough about me to know that watching the questions aimed at him in the HOC yesterday he was beaten and TBH i felt an amount of sorrow for him rightly or wrongly he was a beaten man yesterday and it was not enjoyable to watch
NLA you wouldnt have felt sorry for the guy if you had seen the way he reacted to the two MPs who questioned his RELUCTANCE to act on the MPs expences issue last week.
Michael Martin AKA Gorbals Mick was at the forefront of the legal fight to prevent disclosure of MP's expenses, under the 'freedom of information' act introduced by the political party of which he was a member.
With the recent disclosures of some (most) MP's largesse. It's easy to see why he and others fought it!
He must go and should be followed by all sitting MP's. A general election is needed for a fresh start.
his treatment of Kate Hoey demonstrated his support for those who exploit the current system and he has to go.
I suspect he will announce his intention to retire at the next election but hopefully there's more than enough MPs to ensure he is gone as soon as a new speaker can be appointed (Frank Field?)
[cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]his treatment of Kate Hoey demonstrated his support for those who exploit the current system and he has to go.
I suspect he will announce his intention to retire at the next election but hopefully there's more than enough MPs to ensure he is gone as soon as a new speaker can be appointed (Frank Field?)
After yesterday's farce I can't see those MPs supporting the no confidence motion settling for him going at the next General Election - up to a year away. it is said that he'll chair the cross party meeting this pm so clearly not going immediately but surely has to to go in the very near future or the rumpus in the Commons will continue. His is the first of many heads that will surely roll.
Field is too good an MP to lose him from the backbenchs, particulalry with welfare and public sector pension reform (on which he speaks with notable objectivity and good sense) urgently needed.
[cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]NLA you wouldnt have felt sorry for the guy if you had seen the way he reacted to the two MPs who questioned his RELUCTANCE to act on the MPs expences issue last week.
see i told you i dont know enough i seem to only get half the story
Frank Field very good call. Labour MP who has challanged this Government many times including the protection of British wrokers jobs and many other issues.
I think a lot of MP's should go, they are only paying the money back as they got caught. I have to work in London, the taxpayer does not pay my travel and accomodation expenses and rightly so.
Ledge, he spent OUR money hiring lawyers to attempt to stop the disclosure of this information. He lost and we lost(money) the lawyers won. He then attacked MPs who asked questions about his OFFICES handling of this mess. Also it was his staff that signed off the expence forms.
Martin needed to go but I am outraged that MP`s who have made dodgy claims like David Davies and Menzies Campell have called for him to resign. It was not Martin that submitted their claims. I smell something rotten here and I can see Martin being used as a scapegoat.
Ive been In Ming Campbells flat before and after it was upgraded, it needed it and the money spent was fair, his other expenses for parking space etc I think are also fair as at the time he purchased it he was in remission from cancer and needed to be able to drive and park to do his job,
Like the idea of frank field as speaker, would be a loss though, despite being pushed to the back benches he has done really well from there and this would be lost in the speakers chair.
The question for me is whether to go with an old hand, perhaps Alan Beith or a young'un to shake them up.
A butcher walks into a barbers and gets his hair cut. When he goes to pay the barber says "No charge today. I am trying to give something back to the community"
Next morning when the barber opens the shop he finds a parcel containing sausages on his doorstep.
Later a florist goes into the shop to get his haircut and when he goes to pay the barber says "No charge today. I am trying to give something back to the community" Next morning when the barber goes to work he finds a bunch of flowers on his doorstep. Later that day an MP comes in for a haircut and when he tries to pay the barber says " No charge today. I am trying to give something back to the community". Next morning when the barber arrives at work he finds 37 MP`s on his doorstep looking for a free haircut and receipt.
[cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]Ledge, he spent OUR money hiring lawyers to attempt to stop the disclosure of this information. He lost and we lost(money) the lawyers won. He then attacked MPs who asked questions about his OFFICES handling of this mess. Also it was his staff that signed off the expence forms.
i don't care too much about politics hence my question so thanks for answeing so he deserves to go basically.
Anne Widdecombe has stated she will retire from politics after the next General Election. I live in her constituency and we have a prospective parliamentary candidate in waiting. So i wouldn't waste a bet on her!
Lets not forget that the speaker is a symptom of the malaise, with his passing we the people and Brown, Clegg and Cameron should continue to pursue the perpetrators of these offences against the people.
The speaker had made too many enemies over the years and they were queueing up to finish him off. I can say from personal experience that he is an absolute cnit. He is a so called man of the people who once he had a sniff of power abused it to his own advantage. He also treats the staff like shiite and am glad he has gone, the fat jock fecker.
[cite]Posted By: Steve Dowman[/cite]The speaker had made too many enemies over the years and they were queueing up to finish him off. I can say from personal experience that he is an absolute cnit. He is a so called man of the people who once he had a sniff of power abused it to his own advantage. He also treats the staff like shiite and am glad he has gone, the fat jock fecker.
LOL, but apart from that Steve ...........!
For what it's worth, I too think he had to go. But the way it has all come about - although partly of his own making by not doing the honourable thing sooner - is nothing short of disgusting. The gutless fecking MP's who were either fraudulent or complicit in the fraudulent goings on were circling like a pack of wolves waiting to rip him to shreads, pouncing on the opportunity to spill some blood to soothe the publics thirst for it and at the same time trying to mask their own obvious failings.
So much so that I actually had a degree of sympathy for him. I don't like unfair fights, and 600-odd versus one isn't fair odds - even if the one is a complete cnut.
A bigger bunch of arseholes you will never find all in one place, at least not outside of an audition for Britains Got Talent!
Too true off it. As much as I hated him as a person, it is a bit off the way they are all blaming him for the fact they have been caught with their trotters in the till. Though it is him who over the years when the fees office in the commons have raised issues about dodgy expense claims has told them to shut up and get on with their jobs. It seems that a lot of em are hoping to attach all the blame to one person. At the end of the day, all MPs expenses should be published online to allow voters to make their own minds up about whether they are reasonable or not.
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With the recent disclosures of some (most) MP's largesse. It's easy to see why he and others fought it!
He must go and should be followed by all sitting MP's. A general election is needed for a fresh start.
I suspect he will announce his intention to retire at the next election but hopefully there's more than enough MPs to ensure he is gone as soon as a new speaker can be appointed (Frank Field?)
After yesterday's farce I can't see those MPs supporting the no confidence motion settling for him going at the next General Election - up to a year away. it is said that he'll chair the cross party meeting this pm so clearly not going immediately but surely has to to go in the very near future or the rumpus in the Commons will continue. His is the first of many heads that will surely roll.
Field is too good an MP to lose him from the backbenchs, particulalry with welfare and public sector pension reform (on which he speaks with notable objectivity and good sense) urgently needed.
see i told you i dont know enough i seem to only get half the story
he was a beaten man yesterday
order,order,oooorder
was all he could say
Like the idea of frank field as speaker, would be a loss though, despite being pushed to the back benches he has done really well from there and this would be lost in the speakers chair.
The question for me is whether to go with an old hand, perhaps Alan Beith or a young'un to shake them up.
Next morning when the barber opens the shop he finds a parcel containing sausages on his doorstep.
Later a florist goes into the shop to get his haircut and when he goes to pay the barber says "No charge today. I am trying to give something back to the community" Next morning when the barber goes to work he finds a bunch of flowers on his doorstep. Later that day an MP comes in for a haircut and when he tries to pay the barber says " No charge today. I am trying to give something back to the community". Next morning when the barber arrives at work he finds 37 MP`s on his doorstep looking for a free haircut and receipt.
i don't care too much about politics hence my question so thanks for answeing so he deserves to go basically.
Ane Widacom OMG its still out there is the surprise hat in the ring.
LOL, but apart from that Steve ...........!
For what it's worth, I too think he had to go. But the way it has all come about - although partly of his own making by not doing the honourable thing sooner - is nothing short of disgusting. The gutless fecking MP's who were either fraudulent or complicit in the fraudulent goings on were circling like a pack of wolves waiting to rip him to shreads, pouncing on the opportunity to spill some blood to soothe the publics thirst for it and at the same time trying to mask their own obvious failings.
So much so that I actually had a degree of sympathy for him. I don't like unfair fights, and 600-odd versus one isn't fair odds - even if the one is a complete cnut.
A bigger bunch of arseholes you will never find all in one place, at least not outside of an audition for Britains Got Talent!