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The selling of our players for PEANUTS

edited May 2009 in General Charlton
I personally have quite honestly had enough of us selling our player's for peanuts!

Players like Darren Bent, Scott Parker and Andy Reid (almost an unfair price) being the only exceptions of recent times.

I personally think it is a disgrace that we let players slip away for a fraction of the price that we could barter for.

There have been players like Luke Varney and Chris Iwelumo who we could have bartered for more. I'm sure we can all remember a player that has gone for hardly anything that we should have got a lot more for.

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  • Would love to sell players for more cash, as Im sure the board also do, players go for a price that someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to accept. Outside the closed doors where these transfer dealings go on we will never know why players are sold cheaper that we would expect (hidden injuries, contract clauses, upcoming bonus clauses etc etc)

    I for one trust the board will get the maximum amount for players, we played hardball with Spurs for Bent and Chelsea for Parker, so I presume that they do this with all of our transfers but cannot get the cash we expect in the current market.
  • [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]

    There have been players like Luke Varney and Chris Iwelumo who we could have bartered for more.

    Could we? Both were widely slated on here as rubbish and a waste of space etc etc but when we sell them we've undersold.

    As Thommo says a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

    Did Southend undersell Bailey at £400k or did we bargain well?

    Did Shelvey sign because we didn't bargain well?

    Sure, we've made enough duff deals but we've done some good ones too. Big Chris on a free transfer, Hudson on a free... OK, maybe not : - 0
  • edited May 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]

    There have been players like Luke Varney and Chris Iwelumo who we could have bartered for more.

    Could we? Both were widely slated on here as rubbish and a waste of space etc etc but when we sell them we've undersold.

    As Thommo says a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

    Did Southend undersell Bailey at £400k or did we bargain well?

    Did Shelvey sign because we didn't bargain well?

    Sure, we've made enough duff deals but we've done some good ones too. Big Chris on a free transfer, Hudson on a free... OK, maybe not : - 0

    ;o) My point on those two were that i liked em both they both put in 100% effort every time no matter how cack the rest were playing. That i feel is a strong and positive thing in a player even when they lost confidence they done their best!
  • did we get £1m for marcus bent?
  • [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]

    There have been players like Luke Varney and Chris Iwelumo who we could have bartered for more.

    Could we? Both were widely slated on here as rubbish and a waste of space etc etc but when we sell them we've undersold.

    As Thommo says a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

    Did Southend undersell Bailey at £400k or did we bargain well?

    Did Shelvey sign because we didn't bargain well?

    Sure, we've made enough duff deals but we've done some good ones too. Big Chris on a free transfer, Hudson on a free... OK, maybe not : - 0

    ;o) My point on those two were that i liked em both they both put in 100% effort every time no matter how cack the rest were playing. That i feel is a strong and positive thing in a player even when they lost confidence they done their best!

    I thought it was a mistake to sell Big Chris and said so at the time but because we like or don't like players that doesn't mean the club don't bargain well.

    Should have swapped Iwelumo for Darren Ward in August. Might have been a different season or even better sold Varney last summer and kept Big Chris and bought Ward but that's history.
  • Agreed Mr Irving
  • [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]
    There have been players like Luke Varney and Chris Iwelumo who we could have bartered for more. I'm sure we can all remember a player that has gone for hardly anything that we should have got a lot more for.

    I think the problem is that we overpaid for most of the players we've signed in the last couple of years, so we're bound to get less money when we sell them on. Plus, we keep getting relegated!
  • [cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]
    There have been players like Luke Varney and Chris Iwelumo who we could have bartered for more. I'm sure we can all remember a player that has gone for hardly anything that we should have got a lot more for.

    I think the problem is that weoverpaidfor most of the players we've signed in the last couple of years, so we're bound to get less money when we sell them on. Plus, we keep getting relegated!

    That's by far the bigger problem.

    We also got a decent fee for Diawara, and I think we got what we could for players like Young, Marcus Bent and Rommedahl.
  • I think it time it evens out really. We sold Rob Lee for peanuts (for obvious reasons) but got a record fee for a teenager at the time for Bowyer. We stole mills for about 300k but a year or so later he went for about £4m. It stands to reason that a club in our financial state will not get massive money for players, it's a fact of footballing life.
    Look at Norwich, selling their keeper to Cardiff cheaply, they would obviously have wanted more.
    Look at Southampton, agreed a fee for Walcott but took less to settle early and pay off debts.

    And we got 16m for Darren Bent, no matter how good he was for us, a fee of 16m was great money and he cost more than Barca paid that same summer for Henry.
  • We got half-a-million for Djimi Traore.
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  • [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]We got half-a-million for Djimi Traore.

    A realistic fee for a player with his 'ability'. Every other football supporter was laughing at us the day we signed Djimi bloody Traore for two chuffing million pounds.
  • [cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]We got half-a-million for Djimi Traore.

    A realistic fee for a player with his 'ability'. Every other football supporter was laughing at us the day we signed Djimi bloody Traore for two chuffing million pounds.

    What made it even worse was we signed Amdy Faye on the same day for another £2m.

    Again two examples of where we overpaid, both worth closer to £500k.
  • [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]We got half-a-million for Djimi Traore.

    A realistic fee for a player with his 'ability'. Every other football supporter was laughing at us the day we signed Djimi bloody Traore for two chuffing million pounds.

    What made it even worse was we signed Amdy Faye on the same day for another £2m.

    Again two examples of where we overpaid, both worth closer to £500k.

    Don't remind me. It almost brings a tear to the eye. There are so many things I'd like to ask Iain Dowie about what he was thinking during his brief stay at The Valley.
  • [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I personally have quite honestly had enough of us selling our player's for peanuts!

    Players like Darren Bent, Scott Parker and Andy Reid (almost an unfair price) being the only exceptions of recent times.

    I personally think it is a disgrace that we let players slip away for a fraction of the price that we could barter for.

    There have been players like Luke Varney and Chris Iwelumo who we could have bartered for more. I'm sure we can all remember a player that has gone for hardly anything that we should have got a lot more for.

    I liked Varney's effort but was overjoyed that Derby shelled out, what was it £750K min , possibly rising to £1M on appearances? They were robbed.
  • We did well to get that sort of money for Varney after his goalscoring record.

    I like him as a player, not just for his work rate, but he needs the right team around him to score goals and take the pressure off. Pardew ruined his confidence when he tried to turn him into 20 goal a season striker.
  • [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]We did well to get that sort of money for Varney after his goalscoring record.

    I like him as a player, not just for his work rate, but he needs the right team around him to score goals and take the pressure off. Pardew ruined his confidence when he tried to turn him into 20 goal a season striker.

    Someone needs to have a long chat with Varney about the offside rule. Then he might start to improve.
  • He was offside less often than Burton, Kandol, Dickson and Mcleod
  • [cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]He was offside less often than Burton, Kandol, Dickson and Mcleod

    No player has ever been offside more than Luke Varney.
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