[cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]What did he claim for then?
He claimed £16,000 for a mortgage that had been paid off. He said it was a 'genuine mistake'
Yeah, right
The thing with that, it's quite feasible, these pillocks are so awash with money through outside deals and expenses, that 16K would not probably register, self serving numpties the lot of them.
To claim any expenses you need documentation or receipts.
So there never could be documentation for interest paid - on a mortgage that had already been paid off.
So what action is being taken against him? None i'm guessing?
Same as Hazel Blears, claiming 2nd property allowance against THREE homes. Then when caught out deciding only then to pay Capital gains tax on one of the properties she sold which wasn't her main home. Not good enough i'm afraid. If you try and get away with it, then pay it back when caught and face no further action, where's the deterrent in future?
She should be sacked. Would we be allowed to get away with that?
[cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]So what action is being taken against him? None i'm guessing?
Same as Hazel Blears, claiming 2nd property allowance against THREE homes. Then when caught out deciding only then to pay Capital gains tax on one of the properties she sold which wasn't her main home. Not good enough i'm afraid. If you try and get away with it, then pay it back when caught and face no further action, where's the deterrent in future?
She should be sacked. Would we be allowed to get away with that?
Look at Mandelson's false claims on his mortgage application afew years back, swept under the carpet.
Never thought I would say this but I for one won`t be voting next time round. I will treat all MPs with same contempt I treat everyone else with. scheming B*stards the lot of them.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Never thought I would say this but I for one won`t be voting next time round. I will treat all MPs with same contempt I treat everyone else with. scheming B*stards the lot of them.
Can't agree with your view. I will be voting for the party that I think will sort this mess out. If everyone took your view then it would leave the way for open for the Greens or the BNP to run the country.
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]One law for the ordinary people.
And one law for MPs.
How could he make a 'mistake'. .... ?
To claim any expenses you need documentation or receipts.
So there never could be documentation for interest paid - on a mortgage that had already been paid off.
Fraud.
True, although for me the main issue is that they are allowed to claim expenses (which include major structural works, gardening, lightbulbs etc) for properties that may not be anyplace near the house of commons or their constiuency quite legally. Cannot believe that not one of the filthy little cheats hasn't gone to a newspaper before now and said that this practice is completely wrong. Moral bankrupcy to go with the financial.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Never thought I would say this but I for one won`t be voting next time round. I will treat all MPs with same contempt I treat everyone else with. scheming B*stards the lot of them.
Can't agree with your view. I will be voting for the party that I think will sort this mess out. If everyone took your view then it would leave the way for open for the Greens or the BNP to run the country.
Surely if nobody voted then nobody would get elected at all !
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Never thought I would say this but I for one won`t be voting next time round. I will treat all MPs with same contempt I treat everyone else with. scheming B*stards the lot of them.
Can't agree with your view. I will be voting for the party that I think will sort this mess out. If everyone took your view then it would leave the way for open for the Greens or the BNP to run the country.
Surely if nobody voted then nobody would get elected at all !
I'll re-phrase it...If most people took your view :0p
lol you are joking Dan of course. the bankers have embezzled billions through their manipulation of those those legally binding contracts!
the bankers have cost us the tax payers a billion times more than the bent Mps.
why do you think this is all being revealed now? because the city's paid work force in the press and parliament etc are attempting to destroy the only people that can get our money back from them and punish them as required.
Bankers talked up company profits and potential etc and took knowingly bad risks on in order to get bigger bonuses!! That is fraud on a far bigger scale than a few toilet seats and rental payments.
The affects of the MPs is a minor use of public money. the affects of the bankers is millions out of work, homes lost, suicides etc
[cite]Posted By: kentred2[/cite]lol you are joking Dan of course. the bankers have embezzled billions through their manipulation of those those legally binding contracts!
the bankers have cost us the tax payers a billion times more than the bent Mps.
why do you think this is all being revealed now? because the city's paid work force in the press and parliament etc are attempting to destroy the only people that can get our money back from them and punish them as required.
Manipulation of legally binding contracts! LMFAO
How does one manipulate a contract? Its black and white is it not.......
If your employer was to go back on the your contract and you stood your ground would you also be manipulating something or would you be standing up for what is due to you? When we paid off Dowie did he manipulate his contract, despite poor performance or did we unfortunately have to pay him what was legally due to him?
Be that as it may its NOT the same. The banks have not broken any laws, such as fraud for instance. Professionally neglegent perhaps, but its not the same.
Ah yes. That's right. Its the evil bankers manipulating the press into forcing the issue into the limelight and has nothing at all to do with a movement to have this brought into the public domain going back over 4 yrs.
[cite]Posted By: kentred2[/cite]Bankers talked up company profits and potential etc and took knowingly bad risks on in order to get bigger bonuses!! That is fraud on a far bigger scale than a few toilet seats and rental payments.
No its isnt. Its called profiteering, which isnt actually illegal.
[cite]Posted By: kentred2[/cite]
The affects of the MPs is a minor use of public money. the affects of the bankers is millions out of work, homes lost, suicides etc
And without these banks trading such toxic assets how do you think people would have been able to take on such affordable mortgages in the 1st place.
No offence mate but the World is far more complicated than youre making out and youre coming across as rather alarmist & reactionary.
Go back 400 odd years and its people like you that would say that the only way to prove that a woman wasnt a witch would be to hold her under water. If she survived, then she must be a witch.
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Bolox, it's fraud and he has to be charged.
Dodgy name by BTW
He claimed £16,000 for a mortgage that had been paid off. He said it was a 'genuine mistake'
Yeah, right
The thing with that, it's quite feasible, these pillocks are so awash with money through outside deals and expenses, that 16K would not probably register, self serving numpties the lot of them.
And one law for MPs.
How could he make a 'mistake'. .... ?
To claim any expenses you need documentation or receipts.
So there never could be documentation for interest paid - on a mortgage that had already been paid off.
Fraud.
Same as Hazel Blears, claiming 2nd property allowance against THREE homes. Then when caught out deciding only then to pay Capital gains tax on one of the properties she sold which wasn't her main home. Not good enough i'm afraid. If you try and get away with it, then pay it back when caught and face no further action, where's the deterrent in future?
She should be sacked. Would we be allowed to get away with that?
Look at Mandelson's false claims on his mortgage application afew years back, swept under the carpet.
The law must act.
IThe law would if it was YOU caught cheating.
Let the judge and jury decide if they are guilty of theft of taxpayers money.
Can't agree with your view. I will be voting for the party that I think will sort this mess out. If everyone took your view then it would leave the way for open for the Greens or the BNP to run the country.
True, although for me the main issue is that they are allowed to claim expenses (which include major structural works, gardening, lightbulbs etc) for properties that may not be anyplace near the house of commons or their constiuency quite legally. Cannot believe that not one of the filthy little cheats hasn't gone to a newspaper before now and said that this practice is completely wrong. Moral bankrupcy to go with the financial.
Surely if nobody voted then nobody would get elected at all !
I'll re-phrase it...If most people took your view :0p
Not really the same is it?
Fred Goodwin signed a legally binding contract that had been agreed by the Govt. This guy defrauded the people he is supposed to be representing.
the bankers have cost us the tax payers a billion times more than the bent Mps.
why do you think this is all being revealed now? because the city's paid work force in the press and parliament etc are attempting to destroy the only people that can get our money back from them and punish them as required.
The affects of the MPs is a minor use of public money. the affects of the bankers is millions out of work, homes lost, suicides etc
Manipulation of legally binding contracts! LMFAO
How does one manipulate a contract? Its black and white is it not.......
If your employer was to go back on the your contract and you stood your ground would you also be manipulating something or would you be standing up for what is due to you? When we paid off Dowie did he manipulate his contract, despite poor performance or did we unfortunately have to pay him what was legally due to him?
Be that as it may its NOT the same. The banks have not broken any laws, such as fraud for instance. Professionally neglegent perhaps, but its not the same.
Ah yes. That's right. Its the evil bankers manipulating the press into forcing the issue into the limelight and has nothing at all to do with a movement to have this brought into the public domain going back over 4 yrs.
Let me guess. You're a Daily Mail reader?
And without these banks trading such toxic assets how do you think people would have been able to take on such affordable mortgages in the 1st place.
No offence mate but the World is far more complicated than youre making out and youre coming across as rather alarmist & reactionary.
Go back 400 odd years and its people like you that would say that the only way to prove that a woman wasnt a witch would be to hold her under water. If she survived, then she must be a witch.
Honestly - if this shit happened in other countries the HOP would have been burnt down with the tossers in it.
Systematic fraud on the taxpayer - what would happen if we tried it do you think?
Everyone I know (regardless of political opinion) is seriously pissed off about this. The twats in pariliament need to know people feel.
Can't wait for 'Week in Politics' tonight...
you manipulate a contract by falsifying the results that prompt the bonus payments
if you are happy to pursue a few Mps for the low thousands they have taken rather than the bankers for the billions then wow go for it!
I read the Valley Review