"We can influence it as the better we play the more hope the supporters see and the more season tickets we will hopefully sell.
"On the back of that there is a chance of maybe some outside investment coming in to the club, which would save peoples' jobs. That was my message to the players today."
I did wonder about that. Just have to wait and see I guess. Would rather jut not know until it all goes through completely rather than another Zabeel scenario.
[cite]Posted By: Valley McMoist[/cite]Somebody needs to tell him that the story about Glasgow Rangers buying a controlling stake in the Addicks was an April fools.
Was it? I heard from a "reliable source" that we were "very close" to sealing the Rangers deal this week.
Post-Zebeel personally I'll wait until the cheque is signed and the new owners (if there are any) are picture on the OS holding up a Charlton scarf with the East Stand as a backdrop until I start getting interested in possible takeovers.
Exactly, though i have always been like that, weather it's the rumour of a new signing or waiting for the final whistle to blow, until i see them shaking the managers hand infront of the east (as henry says) or the FT symbol beside the score then i don't let it affect me, but there's nothing wrong with hoping nigel, fingers crossed eh!!
I'll wait until they find a bank that has accepted and cleared the cheque! But it was an odd comment, and given the Crown Jewels stuff, I still think there's something going on, but then it's something I want to believe, so any scrap of 'evidence' goes straight into my dossier.
[cite]Posted By: northstandsteve[/cite]i think he should have kept his mouth shut
I'm sure Parkinson means well, but his comments in terms of redundancies are neither helpful to staff nor accurate.
The club would be forced to make redundancies regardless of whether it stayed in the Championship, because of the loss of the parachute payments. Even new investment would be unlikely to change that completely.
Whilst I agree that their would be redundancies regardless, I blieve what Parky said was, "the more season tickets we sell, the more jobs we can save". Surely if the club does really well in sales and the phone lines are ringing off the hook then at least one job in the call centre might be saved.
And Parky's comments on the investors of mirror those of murray in the standard the other week when he said they were looking for investors.
Don't be so quick to jump down his thorat after every press conference.
[cite]Posted By: Mortimerician[/cite]Whilst I agree that their would be redundancies regardless, I blieve what Parky said was, "the more season tickets we sell, the more jobs we can save". Surely if the club does really well in sales and the phone lines are ringing off the hook then at least one job in the call centre might be saved.
I'm afraid this isn't true either. The staff will be leaving at the end of April/beginning of May.
I wish Parky would stick to talking about football and, if he wishes, his own shortcomings which have more than contributed to the situation we are in which in turn leads to the redundancies. It's too late now saying we are playing for people's jobs blah, blah, blah. It's far too late for that. As for outside investment he is surely just speculating that the better position the Club are in the more attractive an investment we will be but this is nothing to do with him. Stick to talking about football and leave the financial issues to those more qualified to answer them . And by the way Parky, one win won't save your job.
[cite]Posted By: Thommo[/cite]From what I made of it, I was quite pleased that Parky raised it with the players that they share responsibility for the job losses.
I agree but I still think he, and anyone else employed by the club, should be very careful what statements they make in public about timings or persons involved.
[cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]He only said what he told the players. If Curbishley came out with something like that it wouldn't be seen as a bad thing.
Exactly, Sco. We won a match and won it well. Parky was telling a reporter one of the things he said to motivate players.
That's all.
No need for people to jump down the man's throat and scrutinise every little thing he says, then out of context, blow it up out of all proportion.
He's just not experienced at this public stuff is he? I think he could do with the attentions of a dreaded spin doctor. In TV interviews, he's ill at ease, a bit mumbly, constantly moving his hands and fiddling with his shirt collar. I really like Parky, and it's quite painful to watch at times. Doesn't the club have any media friends who could give him a bit of freebie coaching? He just doesn't come across at all well and lacks an air of authority which can't help him in the dressing room and certainly does him no favours with the fans.
So it takes mass redundancies to motivate the players ?
May be they could all donate a week's wages to a hardship fund for those about to lose their jobs. That would offer more practical help than a belated and meaningless (although still welcome) away win seven months after the last one!
To be fair, Oggy, I don't think people are jumping down PP's throat and blowing it up ''out of all proportion''. They are merely remindng him that when people are losing their livelihoods there are great sensitivities at stake and, as Henry Irving says, anyone ''employed by the club, should be very careful what statements they make in public about timings or persons involved.''
Stilladdicted said: "I think he could do with the attentions of a dreaded spin doctor."
Well I was press officer to Neil Kinnock in the 1987 general election but I'm not volunteering. I might turn PP into a waffling Welsh windbag, which would surely be far worse than his current fumbling hesitancy !!!
I understood it as saying the better the players play, the more season tickets we sell. The more season tickets we sell the more attractive we will look to outside investors.,
[cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]So it takes mass redundancies to motivate the players ?
May be they could all donate a week's wages to a hardship fund for those about to lose their jobs. That would offer more practical help than a belated and meaningless (although still welcome) away win seven months after the last one!
To be fair, Oggy, I don't think people are jumping down PP's throat and blowing it up ''out of all proportion''. They are merely remindng him that when people are losing their livelihoods there are great sensitivities at stake and, as Henry Irving says, anyone ''employed by the club, should be very careful what statements they make in public about timings or persons involved.''
But Nigel, you've isolated a very small part of what Parkinson said and used it as the main thrust of your criticsm, at least that's how it comes across to me.
Maybe as Henry says, he should be more careful in what he says - or maybe, not say anything at all.
Then there'd be nothing for you to pounce on and rip apart every time the man opens his mouth.
Exactly, Sco. We won a match and won it well. Parky was telling a reporter one of the things he said to motivate players.
That's all.
No need for people to jump down the man's throat and scrutinise every little thing he says, then out of context, blow it up out of all proportion.
Totally agree Oggy, That's all it was... Whatever he says doesn't prove it effected the reult anyway ...
As for the outside investment mention... I just saw it as a general statement, that we are and have been in the shop window.. Doesn't mean there's something concrete here and now.
Oggy wrote: ''But Nigel, you've isolated a very small part of what Parkinson said and used it as the main thrust of your criticsm, at least that's how it comes across to me.''
Mr Oggy that is uncharacteristically unfair of you. The main thrust of my criticism? I haven't criticised at all.
This is what I posted when I started the thread:
''Wonder what Parky meant in his post-match press conference by that reference to the possibility of some new outside investment coming in?
Probably just wishful thinking but we can live in hope!'''
I didn't rejoin the thread until you accused (other) people of ''jumping down the man's throat'', and I then came in to say that I didn't think people were.
So I really havent criticied anything or anybody, but I still get dug out. May be it's not just Parky should keep his mouth shut - it's me, too. I'm off to find Miserbale-oldish at the cricket in Beckenham. I may be gone some time.
[quote][cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]Wonder what Parky meant in his post-match press conference by that reference to the possibility of some new outside investment coming in?
Probably just wishful thinking but we can live in hope![/quote]
and I'd like to point out I heard this about a month ago and raised it on here to a mixture of "not gonna happen" and "would be great if it could happen"
Have we been here with this one before ? I too would love to see PV back because I think the man is a superb administrator and would be able to give the club the direction it is sadly lacking at the moment. Believe it when I see it on the OS as Henry would say.
i certainly hope that we start a new dawn and Varney for me was the turning point and the nail in the lid for this season not Derby as i put on an earlier thread , before i get pulled up on this i am not saying that he was responsible just that when we lost the great man the hole left was and is too huge to be filled.
but to be honest having sat back from here over the last few weeks and mainly just read and not post.
i have the same perspective on the way i would like to see the club move but i dont have the hatred or the depth of annoyance that i had a few weeks ago.
i am sitting here watching reading and waiting to see the next chapter unfold, i am looking 4wd to Derby away but tbh i didnt even no the score from saturday until eddieaddick called to tell me, cafc has ruined too many saturdays for me and i needed a break from them
tell you what folks it works wonders i havent sat analising and chewing comments made by people from within the club nor those on here and letting it consume my day,night and weekend
i am sure Parky meant no harm in what he said but i think we have all known that something has to change and after the zabeel deal i think we just wont say anything until it is done if parky is privvy to something maybe he just wanted to give a snipet of good news to those that were listening a bit earlier than you may have to wait.
and if he has gaffed so what i am fed up of every comment being made being called dis tastefull due to the redundencies i am sure that like the rangers thread no harm was meant and we all should stop being so precious about the day to day existance of our club,
i feel sorrow for those who will lose their jobs, i feel sorrow for the clubs situation but what will be will be and the comments made by parky wont change that and i am sure those that will be affected in the job loses will understand
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I did wonder about that. Just have to wait and see I guess. Would rather jut not know until it all goes through completely rather than another Zabeel scenario.
Was it? I heard from a "reliable source" that we were "very close" to sealing the Rangers deal this week.
Post-Zebeel personally I'll wait until the cheque is signed and the new owners (if there are any) are picture on the OS holding up a Charlton scarf with the East Stand as a backdrop until I start getting interested in possible takeovers.
I'm sure Parkinson means well, but his comments in terms of redundancies are neither helpful to staff nor accurate.
The club would be forced to make redundancies regardless of whether it stayed in the Championship, because of the loss of the parachute payments. Even new investment would be unlikely to change that completely.
And Parky's comments on the investors of mirror those of murray in the standard the other week when he said they were looking for investors.
Don't be so quick to jump down his thorat after every press conference.
I'm afraid this isn't true either. The staff will be leaving at the end of April/beginning of May.
I agree but I still think he, and anyone else employed by the club, should be very careful what statements they make in public about timings or persons involved.
Exactly, Sco. We won a match and won it well. Parky was telling a reporter one of the things he said to motivate players.
That's all.
No need for people to jump down the man's throat and scrutinise every little thing he says, then out of context, blow it up out of all proportion.
May be they could all donate a week's wages to a hardship fund for those about to lose their jobs. That would offer more practical help than a belated and meaningless (although still welcome) away win seven months after the last one!
To be fair, Oggy, I don't think people are jumping down PP's throat and blowing it up ''out of all proportion''. They are merely remindng him that when people are losing their livelihoods there are great sensitivities at stake and, as Henry Irving says, anyone ''employed by the club, should be very careful what statements they make in public about timings or persons involved.''
Well I was press officer to Neil Kinnock in the 1987 general election but I'm not volunteering. I might turn PP into a waffling Welsh windbag, which would surely be far worse than his current fumbling hesitancy !!!
But Nigel, you've isolated a very small part of what Parkinson said and used it as the main thrust of your criticsm, at least that's how it comes across to me.
Maybe as Henry says, he should be more careful in what he says - or maybe, not say anything at all.
Then there'd be nothing for you to pounce on and rip apart every time the man opens his mouth.
Totally agree Oggy, That's all it was... Whatever he says doesn't prove it effected the reult anyway ...
As for the outside investment mention... I just saw it as a general statement, that we are and have been in the shop window.. Doesn't mean there's something concrete here and now.
Mr Oggy that is uncharacteristically unfair of you. The main thrust of my criticism? I haven't criticised at all.
This is what I posted when I started the thread:
''Wonder what Parky meant in his post-match press conference by that reference to the possibility of some new outside investment coming in?
Probably just wishful thinking but we can live in hope!'''
I didn't rejoin the thread until you accused (other) people of ''jumping down the man's throat'', and I then came in to say that I didn't think people were.
So I really havent criticied anything or anybody, but I still get dug out. May be it's not just Parky should keep his mouth shut - it's me, too. I'm off to find Miserbale-oldish at the cricket in Beckenham. I may be gone some time.
Probably just wishful thinking but we can live in hope![/quote]
Would love to see Peter Varney back.
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=150143
and I'd like to point out I heard this about a month ago and raised it on here to a mixture of "not gonna happen" and "would be great if it could happen"
I'll see if I can bump it
but to be honest having sat back from here over the last few weeks and mainly just read and not post.
i have the same perspective on the way i would like to see the club move but i dont have the hatred or the depth of annoyance that i had a few weeks ago.
i am sitting here watching reading and waiting to see the next chapter unfold, i am looking 4wd to Derby away but tbh i didnt even no the score from saturday until eddieaddick called to tell me, cafc has ruined too many saturdays for me and i needed a break from them
tell you what folks it works wonders i havent sat analising and chewing comments made by people from within the club nor those on here and letting it consume my day,night and weekend
i am sure Parky meant no harm in what he said but i think we have all known that something has to change and after the zabeel deal i think we just wont say anything until it is done if parky is privvy to something maybe he just wanted to give a snipet of good news to those that were listening a bit earlier than you may have to wait.
and if he has gaffed so what i am fed up of every comment being made being called dis tastefull due to the redundencies i am sure that like the rangers thread no harm was meant and we all should stop being so precious about the day to day existance of our club,
i feel sorrow for those who will lose their jobs, i feel sorrow for the clubs situation but what will be will be and the comments made by parky wont change that and i am sure those that will be affected in the job loses will understand