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Club sell off Crown Jewels

edited April 2009 in General Charlton
a mate, a shareholder, has just rung as his wife called to say they had received a letter in the post from the Club today asking them to vote on a buy out of the training ground by Maurice Hatter, Derek Chappell and an other director who would then lease it back to the Club. Not the sort of couple to wind me up and asked me if anyone else had received one. Has anyone ??
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  • That's a no from me as well!
  • It's the afternoon now.
  • edited April 2009
    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]a mate, a shareholder, has just rung as his wife called to say they had received a letter in the post from the Club today asking them to vote on a buy out of the training ground by Maurice Hatter, Derek Chappell and an other director who would then lease it back to the Club.

    So what?
  • [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]It's the afternoon now.

    End all april fools threads
  • edited April 2009
    it is true, as i have a letter about this. I've not read it all yet but that is the subject. there's a minimum 25 year lease term apparently.

    are we meant to talk about all this? i guess it's no secret?
  • I've just received it too. Raising 1.5 million in working capital by sale and lease-back of property other than the Valley to directors.
  • Just got my letter as well.

    Selling the freehold of property known as Aries Sports Ground, Sparrows Lane and freehold of property known as the Ex-Charlton Park Rugby Ground, Eltham to Alliance Trust Pensions (Richard Murray) and The Maurice Hatter Foundation for £1m.

    also

    The sale of 1 and 2 Landsdowne Mews to 56 Developments LLP (Robert Whitehead) for £200,000
  • At least its selling "within" the club
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  • [cite]Posted By: PeakieRocket[/cite]Just got my letter as well.

    Selling the freehold of property known as Aries Sports Ground, Sparrows Lane and freehold of property known as the Ex-Charlton Park Rugby Ground, Eltham to Alliance Trust Pensions (Richard Murray) and The Maurice Hatter Foundation for £1m.

    also

    The sale of 1 and 2 Landsdowne Mews to 56 Developments LLP (Robert Whitehead) for £200,000

    Also £300,000 for the Pippenhall Sports Ground in SE9 to 56 Developments LLP (Robert Whitehead).

    Not happy that some of the key assets are being sold off even if it is to directors. I know it's needs must but still unhappy.

    Meeting is at 10.00am on 15th April at the Valley in the boardroom which seems odd as that wouldn't hold many shareholders. I assume it would be moved to one of the lounges.

    What with the redundancies and this it's been a depressing couple of days
  • Yes. Nipped home lunchtime and it was in the post. Notice that the lease will be at 'market rates' and for 25 years.
  • [cite]Posted By: PeakieRocket[/cite]Just got my letter as well.

    Selling the freehold of property known as Aries Sports Ground, Sparrows Lane and freehold of property known as the Ex-Charlton Park Rugby Ground, Eltham to Alliance Trust Pensions (Richard Murray) and The Maurice Hatter Foundation for £1m.

    also

    The sale of 1 and 2 Landsdowne Mews to 56 Developments LLP (Robert Whitehead) for £200,000

    Interesting. It's a bad time to be selling assets, generally. Does anyone have a view of whether they're paying over the odds to help the club, or bagging a bargain.

    *Awaits answer in gloomy anticipation*
  • [cite]Posted By: McLovin[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: PeakieRocket[/cite]Just got my letter as well.

    Selling the freehold of property known as Aries Sports Ground, Sparrows Lane and freehold of property known as the Ex-Charlton Park Rugby Ground, Eltham to Alliance Trust Pensions (Richard Murray) and The Maurice Hatter Foundation for £1m.

    also

    The sale of 1 and 2 Landsdowne Mews to 56 Developments LLP (Robert Whitehead) for £200,000

    Interesting. It's a bad time to be selling assets, generally. Does anyone have a view of whether they're paying over the odds to help the club, or bagging a bargain.

    *Awaits answer in gloomy anticipation*

    hard to say on the training grounds. How much are they worth without planning permission? How much of the total training ground does it cover? The whole lot is 27 acres but it's not clear how much of that is being sold.

    On the two houses £100k each for a small house in Charlton seems cheap but not in a great location and at least one of them is used for storing Stewards equipment.

    Just as it's not a great time to be selling it's not a great time to be buying either.

    The question to be answered is why if the idea is to put operating capital into the club why not take more of the Bond rather than fixed assets.

    And I guess the question answers itself in that having sunk a lot of money already into a bond the directors wanted a different type of security for their money. That being money that they may not be as able to spare as perhaps they could before the recession.

    Grim, grim, grim.
  • Always a worry when assets start to be separated but if needs must ! Would also seem to indicate that the search for new investment is not looking good ?
  • separating out assets so that the administrators can't get them?
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]separating out assets so that the administrators can't get them?

    Good, that means we won't be in administration for two years then.

    There is a two year time limit on flogging off assets prior to administration to stop unscrupulous companies doing just that I believe.


    [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Always a worry when assets start to be separated but if needs must ! Would also seem to indicate that the search for new investment is not looking good ?

    Just what I thought : - (

    Off now to stick my head in the oven
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]separating out assets so that the administrators can't get them?

    i must admit that is my thought too. whilst if it is way to generate some more cash then I can understand it from a short term point of view, but looking further down the line moving assets out of the clubs ownership is not something I would be comfortable with.
  • lots of asset stripping has taken place in the last year, or should that be realisation of assets?
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]lots of asset stripping has taken place in the last year, or should that be realisation of assets?

    What fixed assets have been realised?

    players aren't fixed assets btw
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  • I meant players like Reid and Iwelumo et al and now this, and didn't say fixed.
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]I meant players like Reid and Iwelumo et al and now this, and didn't say fixed.

    So two totally different things then
  • You don't wanna do it like that, you wanna do it like this!!
  • edited April 2009
    If it does happen I hope they'll use some of it to pay off Parky. The letter states 'It is important in these times all supporters, both in the boardroom and throughout the club, continue to show their strong support for Charlton Athletic. Clearly, it must remain our ultimate aim to regain our Premiere League status and to achieve this your board will continue to seek new investment for the future development of our football club'.
  • New investment seems a long shot just at the moment imho. It was pointed out to me recently that Dennis Wise has fallen out with Ashley and has left the club which makes sense what with the Shearer thing ? Wasn`t He (Wise) in league with another at the time of our Zabeel thing ? Just a thought !
  • Makes the club less valuable to potential purchasers. Anyone know if there is a buy back option?
  • Just read the letter all the way through.

    Seems Derek Chappell has also loaned the club another £500,000

    It also says

    "as a continuing gesture of support the directors who invested in the corporate bond issue have deferred the interest due on these bonds for this current financial year"

    As the letter in dated 30 March I assume that means 2008/9 rather than 2009/10

    Doesn't sound like the actions of "asset strippers" IMHO
  • [cite]Posted By: T[/cite]Makes the club less valuable to potential purchasers. Anyone know if there is a buy back option?

    Can't see a mention of that.
  • I presume I am right in thinking that it makes the football club more vunerable on the basis that if the new owner of the training ground goes bust and has to sell the club could find themselves with a landlord with no affinity for Charlton. Surely thats a wory.
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