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edited March 2009 in General Charlton
Up there with the dullest 90mins I have ever witnessed.

Too many players not interested and a manger who thinks 1 up front is going to help our already shot shy forward line.

Can't be bothered to discuss all the players but particularly bad were:

Ambrose, Kandol (someone please explain the offside rule to him) & Butterfield.

As for Proud Preston.......play offs my arse.
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  • edited March 2009
    bizarre team selections, players out of position etc playing one up when Dickson should've been on, Preston were there for the taking, but Parky wants all his best players on the pitch regardless of it would work, How many central midfielders were on the pitch...lol, the bloke is clueless - I've had enough now thanks.
  • I stand by what I said weeks ago I will not set foot in the Valley again all the while Parkinson is in charge. Anyone who knows me will know how much that is hurting me, but enough is enough.
  • Unfortunately Kandol is starting to look like the player Millwall sent back.

    His mobility is questionable, not over impressed with his work rate and his grasp of the offside rule is laughable.

    Would 2 upfront have made any difference? I doubt it. Dickson didn't have long but failed to set the world on fire when he did come on.

    On the rare occaisions that I glanced up from following other scores on my mobile, Butterfield seemed to do nothing but hoof the ball aimlessly forward.

    Ambrose was pathetic. Offered nothing and no surprise that he was subbed at h/t.

    Just an awfull awfull game that we never looked like winning.
  • Poor poor game both teams playin for a draw and a draw is what they got

    Elliot - 6 - distribution good, not a save to make
    Butterfield - 4 - truley awful
    Ward - 7 - hope we can sign him up, good in air and on deck, likes ot hoof it fair to much thou
    Hudson - 5 - didn;t no he was on pitch, other than his girly head from another great corner from jonjo
    Youga - 7 - Best iv seem him play for us but didn;t have anything to do
    Sharon - 3 - pointless, so many great balls out to him poor really really poor
    Racon 6 - really awful first half, good second half
    bailey 6 - quiet, one great block but nothing else really
    JonJo - 7/8 - bar far the best player on the pitch
    Zheng - 7/8 - Touch of class, died towards end
    Kandol - 5, didn;t run down anything all game, was on completely diff wave length to zheng/jonjo who played some delightfl balls for him

    Sam - 6 - why didn;t he start, looked threat but had no one in box to ever aim for
    Dicko - 5 - headless chicken
    Holland - 5 min, one good deff head out

    real real poor game, we were perhaps the better team but played with 1 up front and ddin;t support him atall,

    oh one main grip, deffending corners - all 11 back in box WTF??? and we still didn;t win the head to clear any of them??!!
  • Was a corporate guest today, and sat in back row of Directors Box next to Brian Kinsey/Theo Foley, both of whom voicec the same comment re the inept Kandol and Butterfield - "They're not interested".
    They were also puzzled by the team selection which gave us 5 centre-midfield players strung across the park first half, and arguable the worst back four for many years.

    The major (most guests) sponsor MoM was Darren Ward - must've been watching a different game.
    Our vote went to Jonjo, but sadly we were out-voted.
  • Sounds like we should just play the CL team. At least they'd show passion.

    I'm flying back for the Norwich game by the way.
  • [cite]Posted By: Clem_Snide[/cite]Too many players not interested

    Not surprised they know we are down just like we do. A lot of them know they won't be here next season.
  • [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]Sounds like we should just play the CL team. At least they'd show passion.

    I'm flying back for the Norwich game by the way.

    I've just booked my flight for the relegation party at home to Birmingham ;-(
  • edited March 2009
    But for Norwich the whole stadium might be relegated. Hope so - we need them to go down instead of Forest.
  • [cite]Posted By: ChicagoAddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]Sounds like we should just play the CL team. At least they'd show passion.

    I'm flying back for the Norwich game by the way.

    I've just booked my flight for the relegation party at home to Birmingham ;-(

    Youv'e picked the wrong game for the relegation party it will come much sooner.
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  • [cite]Posted By: scruffle[/cite]Poor poor game both teams playin for a draw and a draw is what they got

    Elliot - 6 - distribution good, not a save to make
    Butterfield - 4 - truley awful
    Ward - 7 - hope we can sign him up, good in air and on deck, likes ot hoof it fair to much thou
    Hudson - 5 - didn;t no he was on pitch, other than his girly head from another great corner from jonjo
    Youga - 7 - Best iv seem him play for us but didn;t have anything to do
    Sharon - 3 - pointless, so many great balls out to him poor really really poor
    Racon 6 - really awful first half, good second half
    bailey 6 - quiet, one great block but nothing else really
    JonJo - 7/8 - bar far the best player on the pitch
    Zheng - 7/8 - Touch of class, died towards end
    Kandol - 5, didn;t run down anything all game, was on completely diff wave length to zheng/jonjo who played some delightfl balls for him

    Sam - 6 - why didn;t he start, looked threat but had no one in box to ever aim for
    Dicko - 5 - headless chicken
    Holland - 5 min, one good deff head out

    real real poor game, we were perhaps the better team but played with 1 up front and ddin;t support him atall,

    oh one main grip, deffending corners - all 11 back in box WTF??? and we still didn;t win the head to clear any of them??!!

    Sorry mate how you can say Racon was poor is completely beyond me the geezer is class and was the best player by a mile,in fact I wish i could wat ch him for seasons to come,i fear this will be his last with us.
  • I was near the front of the north stand and this is how i saw it.

    Elliot - 7 - Distribution good one Deano esque kick, not a save to make
    Butterfield - 5 - started well but got worse as the game went on - Clearly scared of Parkin.
    Ward - 7 - Good performance againt Parkin
    Hudson - 7 - Good performance strong header on target was unlucky and also dealt with Parkin with ease before going off.
    Youga - 7 - Good Performance again - Too much back passing to Elliott though
    Ambrose - 4 - Not a performance he'll want to remember but Heckler's did nothing to help.
    Racon 8 - Great game Fast thinking fast footed and unlucky not to drive shot on target.
    Bailey 6 - Fairly quiet game but covered well for the wee pussy Butterfield.
    JonJo - 7 - Great game also but not quite as good as Racon
    Zheng - 7 - Started well on way back from injury so can forgive his fading towards the end
    Kandol - 4 Didn't put anythinginto his game that would make me play him - a couple of good flicked headers at the end but no one to chase them up.

    Sam - 7 - Hungry was a real threat but had no one to cross to.
    Dickson - 5 - not enough time to get going
    Holland - 7 , Did all he needed to while covering the injured Hudson -

    Strange how i thought we looked like the playoff side (bar the lack of goal scorers)
  • edited March 2009
    Couldn't go today as family matters gave me a (possibly convenient) get-out.

    So some questions for those who were there :

    1. A hard-won point or two dropped?

    2. Why just one up-front at home against a team that has struggled to win away all season?

    3. Did Shelvey and ZZ complement each other? Two weeks ago, Parky claimed he couldn't play them in the same team as they ''replicate'' each other. Seems he has changed his mind. I've argued that Parky should still be in charge next season. But comments like that, which he then tears up two/three games later, have sown doubts even in my mind as to whether he knows what he's doing. ..

    4. Despite Kandol's two goals against Watford, is he really the one we want as first-choice striker in div three ?

    5. Were we a better team today without the anonymous Spring?

    6. Why Kins rather than Parky at the post-match press conference?

    We are now in the middle of another of our disastrous runs - seven games without a win. Pardew got sacked on the back of an eight match winless run. Parky has now won twice in 21 attempts and we've got seven games to go. Can he really be in charge next season on the strength of 2/3 wins in 28? My doubts are growing , I'm afraid.
  • No marks, no comments.

    It was a pre-season friendly played in March.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]No marks, no comments.

    It was a pre-season friendly played in March.

    true. but at least some of the kids get given a chance to play and impress during the real pre-season.
  • I thought Dicko added some pace and looked interested
    It was a surreal atmosphere
    More like a pre season game.
    Sad thing was Preston are a play off team
    How bad is this league !
  • edited March 2009
    Nelsenout lamented : 'How bad is this league !''

    Shocking. But considerably better than the one we'll be in next season. Gawd help us...

    I'm pissed off, to be honest. We were promised by Parky that all we needed was one win to turn our season. Even allowing for the fact that is the sort of thing struggling managers have to say (possibly to try and convince themselves rather than us), our record is shockingly bad since we turned that ruddy corner v Palace - seven points in ten games.

    Sorry, but those who claim it's just bad luck, I really don't believe it.
  • NIGEL =
    So some questions for those who were there :

    1. two dropped?

    2. Why just one up-front at home against a team that has struggled to win away all season? - only Parky can answer that

    3. Did Shelvey and ZZ complement each other? Two weeks ago, Parky claimed he couldn't play them in the same team as they ''replicate'' each other. Seems he has changed his mind. I've argued that Parky should still be in charge next season. But comments like that, which he then tears up two/three games later, have sown doubts even in my mind as to whether he knows what he's doing. ..

    played well all 3 in the middle it was Shelvy ahead of ZiZi and Racon

    4. Despite Kandol's two goals against Watford, is he really the one we want as first-choice striker in div three ? NO.

    5. Were we a better team today without the anonymous Spring? Yes Much

    6. Why Kins rather than Parky at the post-match press conference? Cos he is rose tinted too

    6. We are now in the middle of another of our disastrous runs - seven games without a win. Pardew got sacked on the back of an eight match winless run. Parky has now won twice in 21 attempts and we've got seven games to go. Can he really be in charge next season on the strength of 2/3 wins in 28? My doubts are growing , I'm afraid.

    That's retorical so i cant answer

    Hope that helps ;o)
  • Thanks, Dazzler. You've confirmed most of my fears.

    Frankly, Parky's claim that he couldn't play ZZ and Shelvey together was moronic, worthy of Pardew himself. They're clearly the two most talented players in the entire 38 man squad, or whatever it is ...
  • 2 wins in 21

    !!!
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  • yes but "once we get that first win more will follow" lol, you have to laugh otherwise you'd end up crying :o)
  • [cite]Posted By: Al the Addick[/cite]yes but "once we get that first win more will follow" lol, you have to laugh otherwise you'd end up crying :o)

    That's what I said to myself yesterday when half of my teaching material went flying off the balcony in the wind.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]Couldn't go today as family matters gave me a (possibly convenient) get-out.

    So some questions for those who were there :

    1. A hard-won point or two dropped? ANSWER Two dropped - we were better than them in the second half and there were a few brief moments of excellent football (on the ground!) from our over-flowing midfield. The class of Zizi, Racon and Shelvey merited three points. Pity we haven't got any strikers - Kandol was TERRIBLE.

    2. Why just one up-front at home against a team that has struggled to win away all season? ANSWER It was an insane decision. Although it wasn't much of an improvement it was a bit of an improvement when Dickson came on to play with Kandol

    3. Did Shelvey and ZZ complement each other? Two weeks ago, Parky claimed he couldn't play them in the same team as they ''replicate'' each other. Seems he has changed his mind. I've argued that Parky should still be in charge next season. But comments like that, which he then tears up two/three games later, have sown doubts even in my mind as to whether he knows what he's doing. .. ANSWER Zizi and Shelvey were class and provided three or four moments in the game that were worth the admission even though the game was generally crap

    4. Despite Kandol's two goals against Watford, is he really the one we want as first-choice striker in div three ? ANSWER - No.

    5. Were we a better team today without the anonymous Spring? ANSWER - Marginally.

    6. Why Kins rather than Parky at the post-match press conference? ANSWER - Don't know
  • edited March 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Nadou[/cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]Couldn't go today as family matters gave me a (possibly convenient) get-out.

    So some questions for those who were there :

    1. A hard-won point or two dropped? ANSWER Two dropped - we were better than them in the second half and there were a few brief moments of excellent football (on the ground!) from our over-flowing midfield. The class of Zizi, Racon and Shelvey merited three points. Pity we haven't got any strikers - Kandol was TERRIBLE.

    2. Why just one up-front at home against a team that has struggled to win away all season? ANSWER It was an insane decision. Although it wasn't much of an improvement it was a bit of an improvement when Dickson came on to play with Kandol

    3. Did Shelvey and ZZ complement each other? Two weeks ago, Parky claimed he couldn't play them in the same team as they ''replicate'' each other. Seems he has changed his mind. I've argued that Parky should still be in charge next season. But comments like that, which he then tears up two/three games later, have sown doubts even in my mind as to whether he knows what he's doing. .. ANSWER Zizi and Shelvey were class and provided three or four moments in the game that were worth the admission even though the game was generally crap

    4. Despite Kandol's two goals against Watford, is he really the one we want as first-choice striker in div three ? ANSWER - No.

    5. Were we a better team today without the anonymous Spring? ANSWER - Marginally.

    6. Why Kins rather than Parky at the post-match press conference? ANSWER - Don't know

    I'd agree with virtually all of that.

    I also agree with AFKA that in the sunshine the atmosphere was pre season friendly rather than battling for our lives in a relegation battle.
  • Racon was awful in the first half? I thought he was different class all game.
  • Beer was excellent in the lib

    Burger was good outside the ground

    Company was good

    Beer was dreadful inside the ground

    In total today I watched possibly 30 minutes max of football, Preston looked pretty piss poor however we somehow managed to look a bit more piss poor. I had had enough, so went back to the lib (which I wish I did when me and MCS saw a couple of the other lads leaving at half time when we eventually rocked up) I pissed off early again (call me a plastic go on) back to the liberal and had a right grin, then the oggmeister gave me his own rose tinted glasses and the world looked a much better place. Even the unusually high and stinking amounts of horse shit smelt nice. I had an epiphany and decided instead of going back to Chatham to sulk I went out and had a beer instead and had an enjoyable evening.
  • I reckon that parkinson is a c&^% .... I think he has about as much chance as getting us back up next year as someone who didnt get ua a win in 8 games during his trial..... just dont get us relegated again PP thats all I ask...
  • I have to agree that the game had the air of a pre-season match...........must have been due to the sun shinning on the East Stand and sending all of us in there to sleep.

    picked -up 2nd half and the midfield 3 of Shelvey,Racon & zz was a joy to watch........shamne that at least 1 of them wont be with us next season.

    Why no Parkinson at the press conference ? - probably because even he cant keep defending his lone striker strategy any longer, esp as it means bailey is stranded wide left to accomodate the others.

    anyway, only 7 more games left and then we can see the back of another disatrous season and (perhaps)) the end of another disastrious manager.
  • Did anyone else notice that Racon and Youga only pass to each other?
    Golfie/Large - Quality effort by your old man today with the "Come on you Reds" and "Come on Charlton" chants in the East. The bloke's a hero.
  • Chirpy Red Jnr said it seemed like the last game of the season too......as soon as we kicked off!
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