Kelvin Mackenzie in Thursday's Sun

March51

He devotes part of his column to complaining about the number of goal-less draws in the PL and suggests that there should be a height limit on 'keepers or the goals should be bigger. He finishes with 'I do accept that even if the goals were the size of the Channel Tunnel, Charlton still wouldn't score'.Presumably he's not aware that we haven't participated in any Pl games lately, goal-less or not!

Oggy Red

Or scored 7 goals in our last 4 matches.

randy andy

Micky Quinn suggested the solution to this on talksport a year or two ago, no points for a goalleess draw. It's a simple and elegant solution that would force teams to attack at some stage during a game and would virtually end nil-nils over night.

pilchard

Mercifully Kelvin Mackenzie lives in his own little world.

WSS

This thread has been up over an hour and nobody has called him a c*nt yet!

Henry Irving

[cite]Posted By: randy andy[/cite]Micky Quinn suggested the solution to this on talksport a year or two ago, no points for a goalleess draw. It's a simple and elegant solution that would force teams to attack at some stage during a game and would virtually end nil-nils over night.

Problem is that you might see a lot of both sides scoring an early goal each. ; - )

Nothing wrong with 0-0 anyway. Part of the game and remember the 0-0 in Rome for England to qualify for the World Cup

ThreadKiller

[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]This thread has been up over an hour and nobody has called him a c*nt yet!

well it just goes without saying.

razil

I said no points for a draw - some while back on here i think, this Quin fellow must have read it..

;)

Henry Irving

[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]This thread has been up over an hour and nobody has called him a c*nt yet!

it's a given and anyway those B******** in admin would just delete it. : - )

nigel

Like the idea of midget goalies, though !

I've never met AFKA but various humourous comments on here have suggested he's not that tall. I wonder if he fancies himself in goal for us under Kelvin's new rules ???

During the 1990 world cup, I was news editor at The Times and the then editor of the paper, Simon Jenkins, made us run a campaign calling for the size of the goal to be doubled to make the game ''more exciting''.

He knew nothing about football by his own admission and not a single person on the paper agreed with him. But we had to run this ludicrous campaign and every morning in conference he'd instruct us to find famous ex-players etc. to give us comments in support of his preposterous idea.

Of course, we couldn't find them because they didn't exist. He didn't believe us and accused us of not trying and reckoned we were deliberately seeking to undermine the paper's campaign.

Typical of the farce that goes on in a newspaper office virtually every day. Glad to be out of it...

But if he'd run a campaign for midget goalies, now that might have been different !

Goonerhater

Great guy kelvin. Should be PM at least .

Chizz

I prefer an even simpler solution. No points for a draw or a win. Everything decided on goals scored. Simple!

stop_shouting

Normally found holding court at the London Club.

1905

[cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]I prefer an even simpler solution. No points for a draw or a win. Everything decided on goals scored. Simple!

No point defending if goals conceded counted for nothing. This would take it to the other extreme with 40 goal games been a possibility. Why bother with a keeper? - shove him up front.

Oggy Red

[cite]Posted By: 1905[/cite]

[cite]Posted By: Chizz[/cite]I prefer an even simpler solution. No points for a draw or a win. Everything decided on goals scored. Simple!

No point defending if goals conceded counted for nothing. This would take it to the other extreme with 40 goal games been a possibility. Why bother with a keeper? - shove him up front.

Nothing like a dose of 'realism' ........ lol

Salad

how about ...

win = 5 points
score draw = 2 points
0-0 = 1 point
lose = 0 points

BBClaus

teams would sort it out so they avoided 0-0 draws, surely?

i think the points system is fine. there are plenty of other issues to sort out before this one too, imo.

also, mackenzie's idea of a height limit on goalkeepers is stupid even for him.

WhenIwasLittleBoy

guy is a knob

Mortimerician

[cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]how about ...

win = 5 points
score draw = 2 points
0-0 = 1 point
lose = 0 points

Creative, but there's nothing wrong with the current scoring system and this wouldn't solve boring nil nil cup ties (which I would sort out by having the penalty shoot out at the start of extra time, so one side knows then that it has to score to avoid defeat). At the end of the day the rareness of scoring in football is it's asset and a lot of people miss that simple fact. Goals are special unlike say basketball where somebody is always scoring something or other. No other sport sees fans get as excited when a score is made.

March51

Mackenzie, in his wisdom, suggested a maximum of 5ft.8" for 'keepers and goal size to be increased by 1ft.,in height and width.

Salad

[cite]Posted By: Mortimerician[/cite]I would sort out by having the penalty shoot out at the start of extra time, so one side knows then that it has to score to avoid defeat).

Bang on!!

Agree about scarcity of goals being what makes football special - and avoiding foregone conclusions (eg Charlton 0 Swindon 1 !!)

stubs1310

As I have said on previous posts I believe that the scoring system should be

Win -3pts
Score Draw -2pts
0-0-1pt
Defeat- No Points

Salad

[cite]Posted By: stubs1310[/cite]As I have said on previous posts I believe that the scoring system should be

Win -3pts
Score Draw -2pts
0-0-1pt
Defeat- No Points

1-1 - teams wouldn't bother going for the win

Henry Irving

In the current point system there are three points available at the start of the game but if it is a draw only two are awarded.

What happens to the "lost" point?

Airman Brown

[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]In the current point system there are three points available at the start of the game but if it is a draw only two are awarded.

What happens to the "lost" point?

The referee gets to take them home, where he keeps them in a bag. As in "the points are in the bag".

Henry Irving

[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]

[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]In the current point system there are three points available at the start of the game but if it is a draw only two are awarded.

What happens to the "lost" point?

The referee gets to take them home, where he keeps them in a bag. As in "the points are in the bag".

Never knew that.

Can he sell them or is it just a souvenir?

March51

Some go back to the manufacturers, the people who make a point.

MrOneLung

I thought the extra point became the property of the home club.
Charlton often auction on EBAY any spare points left over at the end of the season.

Henry Irving

[cite]Posted By: March51[/cite]Some go back to the manufacturers, the people who make a point.

Surely it would be better for the environment if they were recycled and used for other games but would there be a problem with points from different divisions getting mixed up?

Henry Irving

[cite]Posted By: MrOneLung[/cite]I thought the extra point became the property of the home club.
Charlton often auction on EBAY any spare points left over at the end of the season.

Wish I had known, I would have bid for spare point from Charlton 2 Palace 2.

Carter

I think he's hilarious. He isn't a Charlton fan I think we all know that, but to watch him on the box. For a man who has made a mint really does not give a monkies about what anyone thinks of him, so for that I say fair one