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Parky's Record

edited March 2009 in General Charlton
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PARKINSON'S RECORD

19 games in the league:

8 games we've been winning at half time, going on to win 2, lose 4 and draw 2.

6 games we've been drawing at half time, going on to lose 4, draw 2 and never win.

5 games we've been losing at half time, going on to lose 3, draw 2 and never win.



so, in 14 games where we havn't been losing at h/t we have gone on to win only 2 whilst in the 5 games we have been losing in at h/t we have gone on to win 0.
What does this say about Parky's motivational skills, substitutions, tactical nous. Speaks volumes to me. I just hope results like last night don't start to gloss over his whole tenure.

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  • It tells me that (some at least) the players lack fitness.

    The fact that in a time of financial hardship we have recruited Nick davies again recently also lends credence to that viewpoint in my eyes.
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]It tells me that (some at least) the players lack fitness.

    The fact that in a time of financial hardship we have recruited Nick davies again recently also lends credence to that viewpoint in my eyes.

    nothing at all to do with tactical inepiditude, lack of motivation, poor substitutions ?
  • The players win bonuses are all based on the score at Half Time - FACT.
  • it tells me we are shite in the 2nd half
  • [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]It tells me that (some at least) the players lack fitness.

    The fact that in a time of financial hardship we have recruited Nick davies again recently also lends credence to that viewpoint in my eyes.

    nothing at all to do with tactical inepiditude, lack of motivation, poor substitutions ?

    Elements maybe especially of poor (or no) substitutions on occasion but Parky has admitted as much at the time.

    It seems to me though that we often lose the midfield battle in the second half having dominated earlier in the match. Our brittle back 4 then have the ball contiually coming back at them and eventually mistakes are made for which we are punished. The second half of the Watford match was a case in point.

    The question has to be why do we suddenly lose the midfield? I think some of it is down to our comparitive lack of fitness allowing the oppo to dominate.
  • If all our matches finished instead at halftime -

    how many points would we have, and what would our position in the division be now ....?
  • edited March 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]If all our matches finished instead at halftime -

    how many points would we have, and what would our position in the division be now ....?

    Under Parkinson we've achieved full time results of 2 wins, 6 draws, 11 losses; which makes 12 points. Results from half times: 8 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses, making 30 points.

    Adding 18 points to our current total puts us on 46 points, 6/7 points from the drop, and only a point behind Palace (although obviously I can't be bothered to take points off the other teams who we dropped against).
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]It tells me that (some at least) the players lack fitness.

    Which Loanee was it who said he couldnt believe just how unfit some of our players were?
  • I am afraid we are going to have to bite the bullett now and judge Parky on next season.
  • Staggered by those stats because I had no idea it was that bad.

    Of the EIGHT ocassions that we've led at half-time under Parky, we've only managed to complete the job TWICE?

    Equally astonished by claims that we pay high wages to a bunch of professionals who aren't fit enough to play properly for a full 90 mins.

    What it suggests to me is that other managers motivate their teams at H/T better than Parky.

    As Henry Irving perceptively noted the other day, whether you are pro or anti-Parkinson, nobody can claim he is an 'impact' manager. His forte is slowly and methodically building a team.

    I would imagine those stats show that his acknowledged inability to 'impact' extends to his half-time talks. May be someone else should do the H/T gee-up.
    Get someone like Large or NLA in there to wind them up!
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  • It can mean a whole host of things:

    1. That the players are not fit enough
    2. That the players are not determined enough
    3. That incorrect changes are made in the 2nd half
    4. That we are simply not good enough, and get found out as the game progresses
  • it's a shame really that he didn't go for a run with the players and got lost. then at least we could have sacked him.
  • [cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]If all our matches finished instead at halftime -

    how many points would we have, and what would our position in the division be now ....?

    Under Parkinson we've achieved full time results of 2 wins, 6 draws, 11 losses; which makes 12 points. Results from half times: 8 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses, making 30 points.

    Adding 18 points to our current total puts us on 46 points, 6/7 points from the drop, and only a point behind Palace (although obviously I can't be bothered to take points off the other teams who we dropped against).

    Thanks for that, Callum. It's quite an eye opener. If matches finished at half time, then we'd already be reasonably safe from relegation - even under Parky.

    No doubt added to Pardew's half time 'results', we'd probably right now be be in our rightful position of erm, 5th .....

    So it just goes to show it's our tactics of actually playing a 2nd half period - that are at fault.

    ;o)
  • edited March 2009
    Perhaps Parkinson should take a leaf out of the book of the man who succeeded him when he was sacked at Hull...

    Remember when Phil Brown kept his team in the centre circle at h/t and wouldn't let them go to the dressing room? He did it, of course, because his team was losing. Perhaps Parky needs to do it when we're winning !
  • Reasons why Parky should go:-

    1) His record must be one of the worst in the entire league, and was as poor at Hull
    2) He has failed to tighten up a poor defence, we are just as likely to concede bucket-loads next year
    3) His two purchases are Burton and Spring - would you pay money to watch them and similar next year?
    4) He picks his best eleven one week then will drop a starting player out of the 16 the next game
    5) Has continued the Pardew habit of trying too many players
    6) Plays loanees not demonstratably better than contracted players
    7) In his short time in charge has already fallen out with Dicko, Moo2, Wright - any others we don't know about?
    8) Perseveres with 4-5-1 in must win games even at home. Plays Dicko as lone striker when we all know his weakness there. Can't even play the system correctly, leaving our striker isolated.
    9) Still does not seem to know his best side.
    10) Rarely seems to be able to use substitutions or change tactics to improve the side, we usually weaken in the 2nd half

    Have I missed any? If he is in charge next year, nothing persuades me that we will bounce back up and I see us playing to a half empty stadium.
  • Probably all true. But it's still a leap to say he can't do a decent job in a lower league, IMO.

    I'd stll like to think that if he starts planning and preparing now, he should be able to fashion a smaller, leaner squad that can get us back up.
  • edited March 2009
    [quote][cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]Probably all true. But it's still a leap to say he can't do a decent job in a lower league, IMO.

    I'd stll like to think that if he starts planning and preparing now, he should be able to fashion a smaller, leaner squad that can get us back up.[/quote]

    Nigel - do you think that Division One strikers are that much worse than Championship ones, that we are suddenly going to look competent at the back? Parky has tried about 15 different players in various combinations, often protected by five in midfield, and we've conceded the most goals in the division with precious few clean sheets. If he can't make us defend in this league, and we probably loose Weaver, Hudson and Fortune all with Premiership experience (and wages) we are likely to be worse next year.
  • edited March 2009
    A lot of people are saying that if Parky is in charge next season, then basically we might as well all pack up and stay home.

    So I wondered what his Colchester record was like - and here's what our Wiki friends say:

    "Parkinson left Reading early in 2003 after 11 seasons to take his first steps into the world of management with Colchester United. Despite showing promising signs as he steered the U's to safety upon arrival in February 2003, the 2003–04 season started poorly as Colchester slipped to three straight league defeats, only softened by a victory in the League Cup. The U's' supremo, however, continued to motivate as they surged up the table, looking like play-off contenders at one stage. They may have slipped down towards the end of the season, but a strong FA Cup run, LDV run and a good finish left optimism for U's supporters.

    The 2005–06 season saw them finish in 2nd place, thereby gaining an unlikely promotion to the Championship – despite having the lowest average attendance of the division. However, he resigned in June 2006 with a year left to run on his contract.
    "

    I wonder what Colchester supporters thought of him while he was there ...... ?
  • diffrence is colchester is a tinpot club,whatever people may think we are still high profile in this and league one,time to get a old head in who gets something out of hes players,gone on far to long now.
  • as i said b4 i don't care what these managers have done at any club previously ...
    cos when people questioned pardew the same drivvle about he done this and that with west ham and reading was spilled out...
    it's all about what parky does with us and so far .......................................
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  • Seems his reputation is based upon one season. That doesn`t bode particularly well I think. I think nearly anyone could strike it lucky. Apart from that one season his record is poor.
  • Parkinson, not for me, this season or next! He was the 'cheap option' .
    Financial reasons seem the only 'reason' that he was given the job, When/if we go down we will see if that was financially astute!.
  • It seems to me that Parkinson's record isn't the only one that needs changing.
  • lol
  • edited March 2009
    My question was though:


    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]

    I wonder what Colchester supporters thought of him while he was there ...... ?



    Anybody know - or got blue U's friends/workmates?
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