I sound like a broken record but in order to avoid relegation, unless this is a freak season, we need to get to at least 50 points. If we take four points from every six now until the end of the season we will be on 52 points. No team has been relegated on 52 points or more in the last twelve seasons (and before that I just didn't look back further) other than Leicester last season. It's a tall order but we can do it and who knows who will be dragged into it. We went 18 games without a win. A team could just nose dive.
As for who is worse than us, well none yet but who is playing worse than us at the moment, well Norwich, Plymouth (despite their win), Palace even.
The next two games are crucial for us. Two wins and we are right back in it with momentum!!
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Here comes my broken record, lol ..... no point trying to guess how many points we may need, it's totally irrelevant at this stage. Nobody knows.
What is vital, is that we focus on 3 points v Donny. One game at a time.
Single focus. No other game matters.
Tat'd be a 78 then ;-) But that is true and exactly what Parky has to do.
There seems a lot more character and steel about this team compared to Pardoo.
That is the spec of light.
We are 11th in the form table I saw on Sky last night. Unfortunately in the bottom half there are the likes of Wolves/Birmingham etc and not Doncaster/Soton etc
[cite]Posted By: BigRedEvil[/cite]We are 11th in the form table I saw on Sky last night. Unfortunately in the bottom half there are the likes of Wolves/Birmingham etc and not Doncaster/Soton etc
I noticed that too. Says a lot about the job Parky has done
So, we can draw two conclusions:
1) If you're in the bottom 2 on the 3 March, you get relegated;
or 2) No-one from 17th down is safe;
or 3) there's no point in being top on 3 March.
Looking at your 06-07 table, Chizz ..... Leeds were rock bottom after 36 games with 31 points, but in reality only missed safety by a point, Kish inspired, before they pulled their Administration stunt.
Also, look at Hull back then ..... one result less and they wouldn't have had the chance to play in the Prem, and win at Spuds and the Arse. It's a thin line.
This season, it's all still very do-able ..... providing Charlton keep the momentum building.
The next two games are crucial for us. Two wins and we are right back in it with momentum!!
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Every game is crucial, while those above us have some room to screw up, we have no latitude for error. From here-on we need to show promotion type form and be incredibly consistent, something to be fair that we've been all year - just that we've consistently underperformed.
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As for who is worse than us, well none yet but who is playing worse than us at the moment, well Norwich, Plymouth (despite their win), Palace even.
The next two games are crucial for us. Two wins and we are right back in it with momentum!!
What is vital, is that we focus on 3 points v Donny. One game at a time.
Single focus. No other game matters.
Tat'd be a 78 then ;-) But that is true and exactly what Parky has to do.
There seems a lot more character and steel about this team compared to Pardoo.
That is the spec of light.
I've no doubt that Parky is focussing them on one game at a time.
Next couple of games whilst they won't make or break survival could have a real shot in the arm effect were we to win them.
I am going tomorrow and being an Addick fan I travel in hope rather than expectation!!!
And as much as we need points, it's that real shot in the arm effect that is vital !
I noticed that too. Says a lot about the job Parky has done
Norich I agree and Blackpool but the Saints have picked up a bit
I think there is a suprise late failure..... Eh Mr Warnock
Credit where it is due.
How about this season, Palace claw their way from a play off position to a relegation position ?
We can only dream, I suppose lol
League Championship
Mon 3/3/2008 Home Away Total
P W D L F A W D L F A W D L F A D Pts
1 Bristol City 35 11 5 2 27 17 7 5 5 17 24 18 10 7 44 41 +3 64
2 Stoke City 36 11 4 3 31 22 6 7 5 28 26 17 11 8 59 48 +11 62
3 Watford 35 7 5 5 23 21 10 5 3 33 21 17 10 8 56 42 +14 61
4 West Bromwich Albion 34 11 5 2 43 17 6 2 8 27 25 17 7 10 70 42 +28 58
5 Charlton Athletic 35 8 4 5 28 20 7 6 5 23 21 15 10 10 51 41 +10 55
6 Ipswich Town 35 12 4 1 37 11 2 6 10 15 32 14 10 11 52 43 +9 52
7 Plymouth Argyle 35 7 7 3 26 15 7 3 8 19 21 14 10 11 45 36 +9 52
8 Burnley 35 5 8 5 23 22 8 4 5 26 24 13 12 10 49 46 +3 51
9 Hull City 34 8 6 3 28 17 5 5 7 14 22 13 11 10 42 39 +3 50
10 Wolverhampton Wanderers 34 8 3 5 19 17 5 8 5 14 17 13 11 10 33 34 -1 50
11 Crystal Palace 35 5 7 5 20 22 7 6 5 19 13 12 13 10 39 35 +4 49
12 Blackpool 35 7 7 3 28 19 4 5 9 20 27 11 12 12 48 46 +2 45
13 Norwich City 35 7 6 5 19 18 5 3 9 15 25 12 9 14 34 43 -9 45
14 Cardiff City 34 7 3 7 21 19 4 8 5 21 23 11 11 12 42 42 0 44
15 Queens Park Rangers 35 7 5 6 23 20 4 6 7 23 30 11 11 13 46 50 -4 44
16 Barnsley 35 9 7 2 27 20 1 5 11 10 30 10 12 13 37 50 -13 42
17 Leicester City 35 6 5 6 20 12 3 8 7 14 21 9 13 13 34 33 +1 40
18 Sheffield United 34 5 7 5 19 20 4 6 7 16 19 9 13 12 35 39 -4 40
19 Southampton 35 6 4 8 20 24 4 6 7 24 33 10 10 15 44 57 -13 40
20 Coventry City 34 6 5 6 19 22 5 1 11 18 28 11 6 17 37 50 -13 39
21 Preston North End 35 8 4 6 19 13 2 3 12 14 28 10 7 18 33 41 -8 37
22 Sheffield Wednesday 33 7 1 8 18 17 3 5 9 16 23 10 6 17 34 40 -6 36
23 Scunthorpe United 35 5 6 7 22 25 3 5 9 12 26 8 11 16 34 51 -17 35
24 Colchester United 34 3 7 7 25 29 3 7 7 21 26 6 14 14 46 55 -9 32
Relegated teams in bold
So, we can draw two conclusions:
1) If you're in the bottom 2 on the 3 March, you get relegated;
or 2) No-one from 17th down is safe;
or 3) there's no point in being top on 3 March.
;o)
Home Game Tuesday March 4 2008
Versus Bristol City
Bristol 35 64
Stoke 36 62
Watford 35 61
WBA 34 58
Charlton 35 55
Ipswich 35 52
Plymouth 35 52
Burnley 35 51
Hull 34 50
Wolves 34 50
Crystal P 35 49
Blackpool 35 45
Norwich 35 45
Cardiff 34 44
QPR 35 44
Barnsley 35 42
Leicester 35 40
Sheffield U 34 40
Southampton 35 40
Coventry 34 39
PNE 35 37
Sheffield W 33 36
Scunthorpe 35 35
Colchester 34 32
Hope this helps and aplologies for the formatting
What about the season before ....can you rustle up a table?
And Hull were only 9th - and got promoted!
Lots of twists and turns to go yet.
Sheffield Wednesday in 3rd bottom scrambled theite way to safety by 2 or 3 points.
League Championship
Sat 3/3/2007 Home Away Total
P W D L F A W D L F A W D L F A GD Pts
1 Derby County 35 10 4 4 25 16 10 2 5 23 19 20 6 9 48 35 +13 66 (Up via play-offs)
2 Birmingham City 34 10 5 2 28 16 9 2 6 24 17 19 7 8 52 33 +19 64
3 West Bromwich Albion 36 13 3 2 40 16 5 6 7 23 25 18 9 9 63 41 +22 63
4 Sunderland 36 11 3 4 27 12 8 3 7 27 25 19 6 11 54 37 +17 63
5 Wolverhampton Wanderers 36 9 5 4 25 18 9 3 6 16 19 18 8 10 41 37 +4 62
6 Southampton 35 11 5 2 27 13 5 6 6 29 26 16 11 8 56 39 +17 59
7 Cardiff City 35 10 6 2 30 13 6 5 6 20 23 16 11 8 50 36 +14 59
8 Preston North End 34 11 4 2 29 12 6 4 7 21 26 17 8 9 50 38 +12 59
9 Stoke City 36 8 7 3 23 10 6 5 7 20 19 14 12 10 43 29 +14 54
10 Colchester United 36 12 3 3 38 15 3 4 11 17 30 15 7 14 55 45 +10 52
11 Crystal Palace 36 9 2 7 23 18 4 8 6 20 22 13 10 13 43 40 +3 49
12 Plymouth Argyle 35 6 8 4 26 21 5 7 5 21 24 11 15 9 47 45 +2 48
13 Sheffield Wednesday 35 6 4 7 26 30 7 4 7 26 25 13 8 14 52 55 -3 47
14 Leicester City 35 6 6 5 20 18 5 6 7 19 24 11 12 12 39 42 -3 45
15 Coventry City 36 9 4 5 24 17 4 2 12 13 30 13 6 17 37 47 -10 45
16 Norwich City 34 8 4 5 24 19 4 4 9 21 34 12 8 14 45 53 -8 44
17 Ipswich Town 35 9 2 7 27 24 3 4 10 15 23 12 6 17 42 47 -5 42
18 Burnley 35 6 5 6 22 19 4 6 8 14 19 10 11 14 36 38 -2 41
19 Barnsley 36 7 4 7 23 24 4 1 13 17 37 11 5 20 40 61 -21 38
20 Luton Town 36 7 5 6 31 27 2 4 12 15 35 9 9 18 46 62 -16 36
21 Hull City 35 6 2 9 22 22 3 6 9 13 28 9 8 18 35 50 -15 35
22 Queens Park Rangers 35 6 4 7 23 23 3 4 11 17 33 9 8 18 40 56 -16 35
23 Southend United 36 5 5 8 25 28 2 6 10 11 30 7 11 18 36 58 -22 32
24 Leeds United 36 6 3 9 20 27 3 1 14 16 35 9 4 23 36 62 -26 31
Relegated teams in bold
Promoted teams underlined
lol don't panic , we're still 5th i can hear it now after another woeful performance ;-)
Also, look at Hull back then ..... one result less and they wouldn't have had the chance to play in the Prem, and win at Spuds and the Arse. It's a thin line.
This season, it's all still very do-able ..... providing Charlton keep the momentum building.
........
Every game is crucial, while those above us have some room to screw up, we have no latitude for error. From here-on we need to show promotion type form and be incredibly consistent, something to be fair that we've been all year - just that we've consistently underperformed.