How long is it?
Just thinking, if the worst does happen, who of the current team will be on board for next season?
Be good to sign up Ward, Murty and Soares although it would only be Ward, you would think, who would stay.
*All irrelevant because we're staying up, but I thought I'd just ask*
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Out of our current squad I can see the folowing leaving if we get relegated:
Weaver
Fortune
Ambrose
ZZ
with the following being released:
Holland
Toddy
Although I saw early on in January the club said Weaver's contract is up at the end of the season. When he signed they announced it as a 3 year deal. I'm guessing it was probably an optional 3rd year or depending on appearances in the 2nd year, so it could be possible that Racon's 4th year is optional or depends on how many appearances he makes next season.
Wasn't Hasselbaink's contract at Cardiff extended after he made a certain number of appearances?
And I agree we have no chance of signing Soares (even if we stay up), Murty and Ward are unlikely but there's only a chance if we stay up. Are either of their contracts up in the summer? Because we won't have much if anything to spend.
Soares definitely won't sign a perm deal but I could see Ward coming and possibly Murty.
Ward is out of the first team picture at Wolves and is from South London while Murty may be surplus to requirements at Reading even if they don't go up.
Both have settled into the team so who knows.
Be great if we could keep a settled side like the one that played Barnsley at the weekend.
The midfield alone, with Shelvey for Soares, would be a threat at League 1 level.
All those players contract are up in the summer anyway apart from Fortune who I'm not sure about.
Murty will depend on Reading but they have already let him go out so don't need him.
Same with Ward and Soares. If we could afford them in Div 3 I doubt very much. In the CCC maybe.
Whatever division we're playing in, there's bound to be a trade in of players - regardless of out of contract players leaving.
You just know it .... Moo2 to Arsenal, Dicko to Fulham, Racon to Villa and Youga to Spurs. ;o)
Plus most if not all the loanees going home.
Fortune is, signed a new 3 year deal when Dowie came in.
Pretty good for the club really that our biggest earners are all out of contract.
Just rather a shame we can't get fees for any of them...
As for the rest - who knows. The better one's may well be poached if we go down (can't see many of our better players feeling excessive loyalty to us seeing as most have only been around for less than 18 months) and Parky will doubtless want rid of the rubbish ones.
I doubt we'll renew any contracts if we're relegated though and of those out of contract I can only see ZZ, Holland and Forch being wanted again and ZZ may well want out and Holland And Forch are far from certain to be retained given the number of midfielders we have and Forch's inconsitent form.
He's alway's been a lanky streak of piss .......
;o)
If we go down and keep the right players, next years team could be Elliott, Murty, Fortune, ?, Youga, Sam, Bailey, Spring, Racon, Jonjo, Dickson. Think that would be good enough to walk League1 as long as we had a couple of half decent Centre Backs bought in.
With all due respect Henry you are starting to sound like Parky's spin doctor.
Racon was in fact picked by Pardew at the start of the season and it was only injury preventing Pardew sticking with him.
Suspect Fortune with his injury will be with us till jan 2010. We will need a new defence if we go down, Murty will stay CCC, Ward will go back to Wolves or another CCC, Hudson will go for a mill, leaving us with Moo2, Youga and Fortune.
Quite happy for people to think that. It's not the case but if people are free to slag him off and hope his teams lose before they've even kicked a ball then I'm free to say what I think he does well.
No it wasn't only injury.
Last Season under Pardew Racon played 11 reserves team games for us, 8 games for Brighton but only had 1 start and 3 subs for the first team.
He played early on but was injured but had been fit for a while without playing. As soon as Parkinsella was appointed he was picked and scored. He got injured and when fit got back in the team - and scored. I thought he was MOM v Plymouth
Parky and Kinsella rate him, Pardew didn't.
I am not looking to slag off Parky I give any Charlton manager a fair crack of the whip before going down that road, to be honest although he has had a terrible start I can see what he is trying to do at present and hope he succeeds as any CAFC supporter would I imagine.
Ambrose - no one would pay more than £2-300k for him after the last few seasons he's had.
Holland - no one would offer anything for him.
Todorov - same as Holland.
Weaver - similar to Ambrose I'd say, £2-300k or so.
Zheng - only one we'd get a decent fee for, not a big fee though.
Fortune - maybe more than Ambrose, not a great deal.
With their Premiership wages clubs would be less likely to buy them. We might be missing out on a bit of money, but at least we can get them off the wage bill quickly at the end of the season.
Only exception, players under 24 - when a 'development' fee has to be paid.
Holland looks about 21.
I think last season is relevant as he was available and not chosen.
That's the way it is so we might as well enjoy it as moan about it.
There were many midfield players of so called higher profile ZZ Reid Ambrose etc ahead of Racon last season which limited chances for many midfield players not just Racon. That’s just normal football circumstances and that doesn't equate to a player not being rated it is a case of a new player having to make a mark to get ahead of others.
Pardew signed Racon and if he didn't rate him he would have got rid of him as in the case of McCarthy.
We will have to beg to differ on this one.
I know I was saying how much we'd get for them if say they had another year left.
Even if Ambrose had a 5 year contract we'd never get £1m for him like some very optimistic fans imagine we would.
You can't always get rid of a player easily though. Pardew doesn't rate Aswad Thomas but he only ever got him out on loan this season.
Pardew was a big fan of Holland, and after Semedo's good start liked him in the team, that made it very hard for Racon.
:)
after the last few years I don't think we are in a position to talk about walking any league.