in numerous other threads many have blamed Pardew for the current situation and in many ways they are right. However, it's not all his fault. Parky has been in charge for over two months and must have realised we were running with only two centre halves. During this time he has signed, loan or permanently, McEverley, Murty, Burton, Spring, Soares, Gillespie. Not a centre-half amongst them. If Pardew is gonna get the blame then Parky has to take his fair share of the flak too. He's had long enough to rectify it before it's reached this ridiculous stage.
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I'm sure if he took Darren Powell and/or Purse on loan or bought then people would be in outcry that they would prefer Holland/Thomas/Mambo in the team.
Unfortunately, Powell and Purse are the level we are looking at, at the moment.
It is crazy though.
He won't sign and play in the reserves.
He's obviously been trying to rectifty it by chasing Wayne Brown over the last 3-4 weeks.But it is certainly fair to ask why a CB was not his number one priority when he has brought in the six other signings Large mentions...clearly there are CBs out there and available, with Iriekpen apparently going to Bristol City. And it seems we could have had first call on Brown if we had come up with the asking fee.
We were told we haven't got the money - although what that actually means is that having told us at the AGM that they have put in £45m over the last ten years, the board are now not prepared to put in any more.
Fair enough. It's their money. But on the other hand, when Parky was appointed four weeks ago, didn't they tell us they had decided to spend all available money on players rather than management structure?
The truth, quite possibly, was always that there could only be serious movement in if there was movement out - and we now know we have not had a single bid for a single player. Thus no money available for Brown, and we end up, as Parky says, without a single fit centre back for tomorrow's game.
We are bottom of the league and adrift, now find a CH who wants to come who is any good and we can afford him.
These things happen i am sure we will try to rectify it but getting players to come to us is going to be hard there is no point getting a shit one when you could play holland,basey in that position if the worst comes to it Mambo can move in there who would be no worse than some pony one from the lower leagues.
I am sure they are not just thinking feckit we will be ok
When Primus came to us he wasn't even fit and it was clear from the battle that ensued with Pompey that Redknapp didn't want us to have 'til January. Can you imagine Curbs talking about us being promotion contenders (as Pards did - "I would consider it a failure if we weren't in contention this season.....") and going into the season with just 2 CBs? And no I don't want Curbs back for those tha think I do in making that comment.
Little wonder we have the worst defence in the League. That's clearly not because we play such expansive and exciting football with our rigid 4-5-1 system is it? No more than a goal scored in any of our last 7 games is evidence of that. What was our best performance of the season? Against Reading, of course, who will be the Champions. Did we try and grind out a 1-0? Did we heck and whilst 4-5-1 MIGHT work once in a blue moon against the likes of Doncaster, Norwich and Palarse it won't against the majority of sides in the League because we aren't good enough to defend set pieces. And if you play 4-5-1 you end up constantly defending the 18 yard box and with the inevitable pressure associated with that comes free kicks and corners.
So we seem to have got it rather wrong at both ends of the pitch. And as Parky was part of the Pards regime AND refuses to change our "modus operandi" he is, at the very least, partially to blame.
because when you are probably on 4k pw and clubs such as Cheltenham and Grimsby would pay you less than half that you'd be silly to leave wouldn't you. You'd see out your contract earning as much as you could in the progress. This applies to a number of others I'd guess too.
So Large you're saying that Sinclair is a White Elephant a la Christensen (another midfielder never to have kicked a ball in anger for us). Pards was an even bigger joke than I gave him credit for because he cetainly didn't recruit any CBs that we've had to send out on loan.
I remember Youga playing at Centreback (was it away against Watford? I think it was when he got sent off) with Grant Basey on the left and I held my breath in sheer panic every time he got anywhere near the ball. I hope Parky doesn't consider this an option.
Well, it's now up to £20k...
Does he still turn up at training every day etc? Because presumably the atmosphere must be terrible, as Parky said they've made an offer to buy out his contract but he just sits tight and refuses to budge (well, wouldn't you?)
Serious question - does he still participate in squad training? I'd have thought under the circs. his very presence would be a distraction and potentially disruptive, and I'd be inclined to send him on permanent gardening leave. Or nightclub leave, which is probably the footballing equivalent...
Christensen
Ambrose
Gray
Toddy
ZZ
All of these have one thing in common imho.
Weekly outlay for that lot? 50K plus?
Parky said yesterday no, nobody anywhere near ready to step up.
I would like to know how we missed out on Wayne Brown, given the story now running on the wires. It turns out that nobody has come up with Hull's 450k asking price - so he has gone to Leicester ON LOAN (with a view to a permanent deal next season).
I thought we effectively had first refusal on him and would have understood if we missed out because Leicester had offered serious money for him. But as he's only gone on loan, I do not quite get it...
Mambo is Primusesque in stature. Good enough yet? Debatable. Only game I've seen him is in the Spuds Youth game and whilst he was commanding, their CF definitely had the legs on him. The fact that Matty Holland is preferred leads me to believe the management think the same. But then again they think Dickson's not good enough.............
And we know he's been trying to get Wayne Brown in for 2 or 3 weeks.
So he has been working on it. At least it's sorted out now and we have Ward, and it's for the rest of the season, not a month.
Do you know how much the players get paid then Large? I didn't realise you were privvy to that information.
the truth is, none of us know how much they get paid, from us, or their loan club, and we shouldn't be casting aspersions about it on a message board to be picked up by another poster as a fact.
perhaps it's the offer of a perm deal that swayed it, something maybe we couldn't offer
on you high horse again Suzi. I said 'probably' and based on Christiansen's 5k pw then why not ? Even if it's 3k or 2.5k it's still more than he'll get elsewhere so the point still applies. Please note my use of 'probably' which means I am not saying it's a fact. If people want to read it and believe it then that is their problem. I've read on here that Hudson's on 12k pw but that doesn't mean I believe it.
high horse? not at all. just offering an alternative view to your own. sorry you don't appreciate it. I guess you are probably wrong. make of that what you will.
I was just pointing out that we can't cast aspersions on people (pardew/parky/the club) if we are guessing something, and then incinuating something else because of it. I was more questioning Addick Addict for taking your guess about the wages as a fact.
Suzi, apologies for the 'high horse' comment, it just seems that everytime you are defending the Club whatever the issue being debated. Wages of players is always something that is going to be discussed irrespective of the fact that none of us know what they are earning. Christainsen's 5k is taken as being correct as Mick Collins quoted it, asked RM to comment, but he wouldn't but confirmed the story as factually correct.
To a large extent I blame Pardew because with all the money he had available, the squad has been very unbalanced with strikers who couldn't score, or he wouldn't play, a plethora of midfielders, full backs that he wouldn't play and loanees like Crainie who were supposedly there for the season but have gone back, either because they weren't good enough or not getting enough games.
What I don't understand, and I don't get to go to the reserve games, is why we don't have anybody young who could step up? I remember Curbs playing Konchesky when he was 16 because we had a crisis at LB, surely we don't put out reserve teams without centre backs so why not draft them in?
I don't know the details with christensen, and only skim read the story, and I know that it was part of the herfolge boldklub agreement, which is coming to a financial end as soon as possible. no idea about how good/bad he is, or what wages he is on, but yeah, it was probably one of those bad gambles that was taken and didn't work out. fingers crossed the cyriac thing comes off.