Said a few weeks ago that we need to bring a keeper in if we can - neither Elliot or Randolph fill me with much confidence. Defensively we are all at sea and I think an experienced man would help with the organisational side of things. I think Lee Camp was available from QPR, don't know if he still is.
I don't think Elliot or Randolph have done much wrong but in our current situation experience counts for alot, especially in goal. It sounds like Elliot has strayed off his line today and as a result gets beaten by a "fluke". The positional side of things is so important and the old heads are far better at that side of it.
If Weaver isn't going, which I suspect he won't be then I'd put him back in. The few games out of the side will hopefully have focused his mind.
I noticed Neal Sullivan in goal for Doncaster today - he had a mighty fine game, I also wonder about playing kids in goal with such a fragile defence in front of them.............
Said a few weeks ago that we need to bring a keeper in if we can - neither Elliot or Randolph fill me with much confidence. Defensively we are all at sea and I think an experienced man would help with the organisational side of things. I think Lee Camp was available from QPR, don't know if he still is.
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Maybe, and I can see where you are coming from, but I doubt that we don't have the money to bring in a fourth keeper.
Elliott is my first choice (being that he is also a supporter conceding hurts him just as much!) with a fair rotation with Randolph as he is as good as but better with screamers.
[cite]Posted By: Clem_Snide[/cite]Said a few weeks ago that we need to bring a keeper in if we can - neither Elliot or Randolph fill me with much confidence. Defensively we are all at sea and I think an experienced man would help with the organisational side of things. I think Lee Camp was available from QPR, don't know if he still is.
I don't think Elliot or Randolph have done much wrong but in our current situation experience counts for alot, especially in goal. It sounds like Elliot has strayed off his line today and as a result gets beaten by a "fluke". The positional side of things is so important and the old heads are far better at that side of it.
If Weaver isn't going, which I suspect he won't be then I'd put him back in. The few games out of the side will hopefully have focused his mind.
Elliot is not the first keeper to have a cross go over him into the net, cue Seaman of England v both Brazil and Australia
Have only seen the hi-lights. Having seen the first goal, I have to say it is a great piece of opportunism from Webber. I think he meant. Elliot was in a poor position but it was very well executed by Webber.
The 2nd goal looks a poor one as well. He seemed to go down in installments and then ball appears to go right through him.
Agree that had Weaver conceded those two he would have been slaughtered.
Ship Weaver out and give one of the kids a run. Waever is massively overrated imo and he'll definitely be gone next season. Lets see if we can't bring one of the kids on a bit ready for a full season as first choice. If I had to choose I'd say Randolph looks the better prospect but there's not a great deal in it.
Need another goalkeeper for next season someone like in the Sullivan or Deano mode. Elliott and Randolph doesnt install confidence at all. We have to get the team sorted for next season its going to be a massive season in div 1 :-(
Best players should always play so when Weaver is back from his 'injury' he should play because he is better than the other two options.
I think if we do go for another keeper, then it needs to be one who is prepared to play in league one next season. Not a lot of point paying for a keeper plus paying his wages and signing on fee as well, just to off-load him on the cheap in the summer. Sullivan was willing to play in league one for Doncaster, and at this stage of his career Kiely may also be happy to drop down - doubt Paddy Kenny would though.
If we're gonna stick with the youngsters in goal, they'll need a better organised defence playing in front of them.
[cite]Posted By: Exiled_Addick[/cite]Waever is massively overrated imo and he'll definitely be gone next season.
Never thought weaver was that good playing for us. I'd start Rudolph. Can't beleive Elliot tried to blame him pissing up on that backpass from Bailey on him. Lucky for Elliot they didn't score.
Again why no one on the post for the freekick, I just don't get it.
[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Still want to see the second again, cause it looked like Elliott missed it completely
Tbh, we could take DNA from Yashin, Schmeicel, Cech and Buffon and use it to genetically engineer the greatest goalie of all time and we'd still ship goals left right and centre because the poor sod would still have in front of him a team of toothless strikers and midfielders giving the ball straight back to the opposition and brainless defenders who keep switching off and allowing teams free shots on goal left, right and centre.
We can't score goals, are woefully short of defenders - and those we have got are playing like schoolboys - and yet people want us to sign a goalkeeper.
i think we'll have more chance of staying up (1% at the moment imo) if we have weaver back fully fit... these other two youngsters aren't up to it yet and if they ever are i'll be surprised
[quote][cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]i think we'll have more chance of staying up (1% at the moment imo) if we have weaver back fully fit... these other two youngsters aren't up to it yet and if they ever are i'll be surprised[/quote]
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I don't think Elliot or Randolph have done much wrong but in our current situation experience counts for alot, especially in goal. It sounds like Elliot has strayed off his line today and as a result gets beaten by a "fluke". The positional side of things is so important and the old heads are far better at that side of it.
If Weaver isn't going, which I suspect he won't be then I'd put him back in. The few games out of the side will hopefully have focused his mind.
Wheres Weaver !!!
Yet another loss for Parkinson the results are really going our way arnt they Chappell ?
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Maybe, and I can see where you are coming from, but I doubt that we don't have the money to bring in a fourth keeper.
Let Weaver go. Not much better than the lads and considerably more expensive.
Elliot is not the first keeper to have a cross go over him into the net, cue Seaman of England v both Brazil and Australia
Ive not seen that much of Randolph to be fair or indeed Elliott, but maybe Weaver will come back with a bit more confidence after his lay off.
The 2nd goal looks a poor one as well. He seemed to go down in installments and then ball appears to go right through him.
Agree that had Weaver conceded those two he would have been slaughtered.
Best players should always play so when Weaver is back from his 'injury' he should play because he is better than the other two options.
Although having seen them all I don't think theres much difference between the lot of them.
Still unsure of his injury, bruising to the bone is taking a long time to recover from. Guess we'll see in a weeks time if he's still here or not.
If we're gonna stick with the youngsters in goal, they'll need a better organised defence playing in front of them.
Again why no one on the post for the freekick, I just don't get it.
you can watch highlights on the itv website
I seriously wonder what some people are on.
I think all our keepers are of similar ability and wouldn't be devastated if Weaver went leaving the other two.
I'm inclined towards Elliott on what I've seen of both of them which admittedly in Gandalf's case is only 2 or 3 games.
I agree!
Number of games 2008/2009
22 - Weaver
08 - Elliot
02 - Randolph (CAFC)
16 - Randolph all
Clean sheets
2 = 09% Weaver
0 = 00% Elliot
1 = 50% Randolph (CAFC)
5 = 31% Randolph all
Average saves per game
5.1 Weaver
4.2 Elliot
9.0 Randolph (CAFC)
7.8 Randolph all
Saves per goal conceded
3 Weaver
2 Elliot
4.5 Randolph (CAFC)
6 Randolph all