Embarrassed

scruffle

Anyone else just empty at the moment when it comes to CAFC?

I'm just embarrassed of the club, don't believe a word that comes from anyone involved with the club I find myself glossing over and not even reading any statement, glance over headlines in the hope that we have new owners/manager/or even just SOME PLAYER WHO WANTS THE BALL.

i'll still go to every game I can and I still won't boo the players/team during the match won't even call for the board to go, and I'll still dream of a those vital 10 wins we need.

But I have lost all proper interest in the club don't believe a word that comes from anyone from the club and honestly believe when we are relegated we will not come back up next year, something is rotten, rotten to the core.


Its not even the lack of success on the pitch (come on thats always gone hand in hand with following Charlton) but its the manner in which business both on and off the field has been conducted in the last 3-4 years, its pure and simply embarrassing

Heath Hero

Feel better for that?

nigel

Much of what you say is true, Scruffle, and I sympathise. In the light of your words above, you probably will not have read today's interview with Steve Waggott, which rather goes to prove the point you make.

If you haven't got the heart to check out the thread on it, here 's the gist. The new official spin - and I use the word advisedly - is that any mistakes the board may have made were born of over ambition to get us back to the Prem in one season, and that ''the gamble'' was worth taking (how that squares with selling Andy Reid when we were sitting in a play-off spot, you may well ask). And this season we only expected to finish around tenth - possbly a little higher - anyway...

I'm torn between wanting to demand answers from the club and wishing they would just shut up, because every time they do say something, they just seem to dig a deeper hole.

Oggy Red

Blimey, even Golfie has never posted quite like that Scruffle

;o)

milne

I could not agree more with Scruffle

Screamer

Scruffle is exactly right

northstandsteve

Scruffle i feel exactly like that,as people might have noticed my posts over the past couple of weeks are less than normal,just can't be arsed at the moment.

oohaahmortimer

i'm embarassed at how quickly we have fallen from grace absolutely ridiculous.....
the crap spouted by us fans as we began our fall from grace saying we should lower our expectations and be grateful we're not a leicester, leeds, sheffwed , soton etc seems very distant and hollow now

Oggy Red

Ooh .......... Ah, the benefit of hindsight, OoohAah.

There's many a man wise after the event.

;o)

Stu_of_Kunming

[cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]i'm embarassed at how quickly we have fallen from grace absolutely ridiculous.....
the crap spouted by us fans as we began our fall from grace saying we should lower our expectations and be grateful we're not a leicester, leeds, sheffwed , soton etc seems very distant and hollow now

and you wonder why people think you're happy with the way we've fallen.....

LoOkOuT

I'm one of those people Stu

Stu_of_Kunming

Surely not one of those people....

;-)

American_Addick

I want to remain hopeful ... but it is getting more difficult with each passing day.

What is even more difficult to stomach is not knowing who to believe anymore? Someone says one thing, and the opposite is actually done.

Derek Chappell says Parkinson will be judged based 'on results' ... he gets no results, yet still gets the job.

'Money will be spent on bring in new players' ... players are let go, numbers are shifted around, yet it appears no more money is being spent (there's still time). Do they think the supporters are that naive, or worse, stupid, not to see through it?

'Relegation is not acceptable' ... yet it appears it is being accepted.

Richard Murray says they 'will not let the club go into administration' ... and are they now preparing for it? Are they?

WTF is going on???

Errors, mistakes, bad judgments, purse tightening when spending is needed ... those things are all bad enough.

How much worse is it that it is becoming ever more increasingly difficult to believe what is being said?

You can lose matches, lose your place in the division ... but at what price are you willing to lose trust and good faith?

How high would that price be for a club that once prided itself on being a role model for others???

queensland_addick

With Parky's results having been so dreadful thus far, I should think the board are now loathe to give him anymore to spend, because if we lose the next two he's position truely will be untenable and he will surely be on his bike.

northstandsteve

yes this administration thing doesn't seem to be going away,somebody who has in the past given me info which has proved correct (nobody who posts on here i might add) told me yesterday,the club were preparing for administration I do hope he is wrong on this occasion.

revellinit

Scruffle.......My feelings exactly........

addick1965

I hope he's wrong too! I can't help thinking that the board are waiting until we are so far adrift then go into administration but i don't know how late in the season we can go into admin without incurring the 10 point penalty next season...or maybe i'm just unduly looking on the dark side of things.

pete_tong1

Am I right that if the club went into administration the Murray family would still own The Valley and Sparrows Lane which is separate from the football company. If there is an investor or consortium out there then it would be a crafty way of clearing the books . As long as he didnt sell them to a property firm or hotel chain. Murray may even know and is close to the consortium and act as a silent partner. Losing 10 points now would really not make a difference they and probably the majority of the fans think we are down. Sorry Henry not survey stats on the last point ;-0

scruffle

[cite]Posted By: Heath Hero[/cite]Feel better for that?

not really, still feel the same though, made worse by working with palace scum and wingy chelsea scum sayin its not fair cos Man city hae ruined footbal Blah Blah Blah Blah

nigel

This from The Guardian's money section a while back on 'why administration doesn't have to be a disaster' . Not sure if it's encouraging or not!

HOW IT WORKS

"Administration gives a company in financial trouble the time to breathe. It can rescue a company so staff and creditors might emerge happier than they would if the firm moved directly into liquidation. It is used mainly in larger companies.

Although still used in a minority of cases, it is the first option under insolvency procedures. These come into play if a company does not have enough assets to cover its debts, or if the firm may be unable to meet debts as they fall due in the future.

An administration comes into place following a petition by the company that is, or is about to become, insolvent, its directors or a creditor.

Administration is used to keep a company intact and in business while the administrators, usually specialist accountants, try to reorganise the company and find a buyer who will take it - or part of it - as a going concern.

While in administration, a company is protected from its creditors so those who are owed money cannot enforce debts through county court judgments, appoint receivers or attempt to wind up a firm through court action."

oohaahmortimer

[cite]Posted By: Stu of HU16[/cite]

[cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]i'm embarassed at how quickly we have fallen from grace absolutely ridiculous.....
the crap spouted by us fans as we began our fall from grace saying we should lower our expectations and be grateful we're not a leicester, leeds, sheffwed , soton etc seems very distant and hollow now

and you wonder why people think you're happy with the way we've fallen.....

wtf , how does what i say there mean i'm happy ... i loved it more than most when we were in the top flight , no one was prouder than me at our rise , i'm sick of you cranks questioning that i might be enjoying this shit...........
i'm getting more shit from palace fans than you can imagine and the scum are rising their ugly head.....
am i not supposed to be embarassed at our decline, in fact should i be proud....
i was one of the fans who thought as we went downhill well at least we're not a leicester, leeds, sheff wed etc but i'm not gonna pretend everrything's roses when it clearly isn't, i'm as peed off as the next man

northstandsteve

maybe because you tell it how it is thats gives people the hump oohahh

Ketman

I think we are all embarrassed by what is going on, but just think of the people who actually work at CAFC at the moment, we don't even the half of the shit that is going on internally I'll wager. If only we still had a fans Director to find out what is really going on :-)

pete_tong1

Blimey Ketman it sounds like these two are in charge of things.

scruffle

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first smile i've had allday, couldn't be truer!!

kinveachyaddick

how many games do we have to go without a win b4 the board would axe Parky?

what is the consensus?

if we were to lose on Sat then at home to Palace would he be able to keep his job?

McLovin

[cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]This from The Guardian's money section a while back on 'why administration doesn't have to be a disaster' . Not sure if it's encouraging or not!

HOW IT WORKS

"Administration gives a company in financial trouble the time to breathe. It can rescue a company so staff and creditors might emerge happier than they would if the firm moved directly into liquidation. It is used mainly in larger companies.

Although still used in a minority of cases, it is the first option under insolvency procedures. These come into play if a company does not have enough assets to cover its debts, or if the firm may be unable to meet debts as they fall due in the future.

An administration comes into place following a petition by the company that is, or is about to become, insolvent, its directors or a creditor.

Administration is used to keep a company intact and in business while the administrators, usually specialist accountants, try to reorganise the company and find a buyer who will take it - or part of it - as a going concern.

While in administration, a company is protected from its creditors so those who are owed money cannot enforce debts through county court judgments, appoint receivers or attempt to wind up a firm through court action."

I've been thinking this for a while - given our current hopeless plight the points impact is neither here nor there, but the problem is that (I think) our main creditors are the board themselves, so they wouldn't benefit from getting shot of the debt. They'd much rather have a fire sale of any assets that we have left. I'm guessing here, like.

DRAddick

If the club goes into Administration when close to certain relegation then the FA will carry the 10 point deduction over to the start of next season. So it's either do it now and hope the FA decide that we aren't certain for the drop and don't carry it over, or don't do it at all..............Or just take the 10 points deduction i s'pose.