Why does everyone bring up Turner for things like this? I know what you mean, but he didn't become a decent Premier League defender until he got plenty of experience in the lower leagues.
If we release Aswad Thomas, and he plays in the Conference, then becomes a good League Two player, while we get relegated to League Two, it doesn't mean we should never have released him.
At the time we sold him because he wasn't going to break into our team. He only developed into the player he is because he he played regularly in League One and the Championship for a few years.
We didn't know we would be there in a few years time and he would then be good enough for us.
Yes, and I could be knobbing Reese Witherspoon if I...a] Lived in LA, b] Weren't an ugly, bald-headed, fat b'stard, c] Were a millionaire actor/singer, d] Weren't already married.
As the great Bernard Manning once said, "If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle."
[cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]Why does everyone bring up Turner for things like this? I know what you mean, but he didn't become a decent Premier League defender until he got plenty of experience in the lower leagues.
If we release Aswad Thomas, and he plays in the Conference, then becomes a good League Two player, while we get relegated to League Two, it doesn't mean we should never have released him.
At the time we sold him because he wasn't going to break into our team. He only developed into the player he is because he he played regularly in League One and the Championship for a few years.
We didn't know we would be there in a few years time and he would then be good enough for us.
We farmed out Turner to Brentford for experience and he did very well, so much so that within 18 months of being given a free by us he was sold to Hull for £300,000.
We sent Chris Dickson to Gillingham last season and he did very well. We're not now in the Premiership but at the bottom of the Championship but the Management seems to have a KP type arrogance in their approach to the lad. Let's just hope that, in our plight (both in terms of financial and League position) that we don't make the same mistake because I don't think anyone could say that Dickson hasn't shown that he MIGHT have the potential to succeed at this level.
please guys i know i bore people at times, but most clubs can have a 'what if' team. we made a few mistakes with youngesters like Turner and Defoe, Turner was behind rufus and the others and look at what a difference the move made for his career, if he had stayed getting his money and not playing he would probably be in the lower leagues now, defoe hurts still but just look at what the guy has done over the last 5 years im glad he never got to wear our shirt if im honest. We have a great record in finding clubs for our young talent who cant get a break in the first team, but as for the team we could have it would be great if we could put this type of topic to bed now.
[quote][cite]Posted By: Ormiston Addick[/cite]Yes, and I could be knobbing Reese Witherspoon if I...a] Lived in LA, b] Weren't an ugly, bald-headed, fat b'stard, c] Were a millionaire actor/singer, d] Weren't already married.
As the great Bernard Manning once said, "If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle."[/quote]
Lol. I didn't think you were that ugly Ormy. Must have been the beer!
[quote][cite]Posted By: queensland_addick[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: Ormiston Addick[/cite]Yes, and I could be knobbing Reese Witherspoon if I...a] Lived in LA, b] Weren't an ugly, bald-headed, fat b'stard, c] Were a millionaire actor/singer, d] Weren't already married.
As the great Bernard Manning once said, "If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle."[/quote]
Lol. I didn't think you were that ugly Ormy. Must have been the beer![/quote]
Yeah mate, must have been!!! Hope all is well on the Sunny Coast, been miserable here in Brisneyland the last couple of days.
[cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]We farmed out Turner to Brentford for experience and he did very well, so much so that within 18 months of being given a free by us he was sold to Hull for £300,000.
After playing around 100 games for Brentford, something we would never have given him in the space of 2 years.
This is how next season’s line-up ‘could’ be shaping up…
Elliott
Moo2 ?? ?? Basey
Sam Bailey Racon (Demontagnac/??)
Burton McLeod
There is the best part of two transfer windows before we, quite possibly, begin our League One campaign. So a lot will happen but the exit will be the busiest doorway at The Valley between now and then I guess – assuming the likes of Weaver, Hudson and Gray can be coaxed through it.
One thing Parky needs to guarantee, with his permanent signings in this window, is that they would make excellent League One acquisitions if we do go down.
A number of Pardew’s buys were so bad that I think a few could sit quite merrily in League One, or lower, without necessarily shining. Bear in mind he bought them to help us get promotion to the Premier League! Jeez…
I mean, when we dropped out of the Prem, would any of you have preferred Semedo and McLeod to Carsley and Phillips?? Because Birmingham brought in the latter pairing when they went down.
But, yes I know, by then the money men upstairs were starting to panic big-time and let’s not get into that again…it ‘should’ve’ been better than this anyhow….
This is, hands down, the stupidest post I've ever read on here.
Kiely - Old, past it
Hreidarsson - Ditto
Turner - Utter shit when he came into the team, looked crap at Brentford as well
Diawara - Piss-artist who only turned up once every four games, wasn't that good when he did and wore gloves in fecking August.
Young - Wanted to leave when we got relegated
Murphy - Toys thrown out of the pram about four seasons ago now - and not exactly noted for his prowess on the left wing anyway
Parker - I guess we could have kept him - if we'd quadrupled his wages and been realistically challenging for the Champions' League to satisfy his delusions of grandeur
Reid - Fat, perenially unfit and on premiership wages
Thomas - You MUST be taking the piss here. THomas was the laziest, most selfish, overrated tosspot we've had since Ralph Milne FFS
Defoe - Left when he was still a foetus
Bent - Sold for absolutely silly money to Spurtz - if people think we're up shit creek now, what sort of nick would we have been in if we HADN'T sold Bent at the time and been forced to accept less than a quarter of that a year later?
FWIW, here's my 'Team That Could Have Been'
Goalkeeper - Buffon (if he was born in Eltham)
Left Back - Traore (if he wasn't complete shit)
Right Back - Speedy Gonzales (if we could get a work permit for him and he wasn't a cartoon mouse)
Centre Back - One of those Easter Island statues (if we could get someone to shift and ship it to SE7 cheaply)
Centre Back - Steve Brown (if he hadn't retired)
Left Mid - Dennis Rommedahl (oh... whoops)
Right Mid - Mark Pinnock (a kid I went to school with - he was mustard quick, like)
Centre Mid - A Genetic Cross Between Arnold Schwarzenegger, Usain Bolt and Lionel Messi (if medical science had made advances in genetics to allow it and the ethical debate had passed through the house of commons)
Inside Half - Allan Simonsen (if we could go back in time to the 1930s when the 'Inside Half' position was in vogue, but simultaneously play all our matches in the 1980s - perhaps in some 'parallel universe' style scenario)
Striker - Charles Charlie Charles (if we could persuade harry Enfield to give us the image rights and pay his appearance fee)
Striker - Carl Leaburn (just because... well just because he's Carl Leaburn)
Striker - Jonatan Johansson (if we were allowed to play twelve men)
Defoe, Bent[/quote] This is, hands down, the stupidest post I've ever read on here.
Kiely - Old, past it Hreidarsson - Ditto Turner - Utter shit when he came into the team, looked crap at Brentford as well Diawara - Piss-artist who only turned up once every four games, wasn't that good when he did and wore gloves in fecking August. Young - Wanted to leave when we got relegated Murphy - Toys thrown out of the pram about four seasons ago now - and not exactly noted for his prowess on the left wing anyway Parker - I guess we could have kept him - if we'd quadrupled his wages and been realistically challenging for the Champions' League to satisfy his delusions of grandeur Reid - Fat, perenially unfit and on premiership wages Thomas - You MUST be taking the piss here. THomas was the laziest, most selfish, overrated tosspot we've had since Ralph Milne FFS Defoe - Left when he was still a foetus Bent - Sold for absolutely silly money to Spurtz - if people think we're up shit creek now, what sort of nick would we have been in if we HADN'T sold Bent at the time and been forced to accept less than a quarter of that a year later?
FWIW, here's my 'Team That Could Have Been'
Goalkeeper - Buffon (if he was born in Eltham) Left Back - Traore (if he wasn't complete shit) Right Back - Speedy Gonzales (if we could get a work permit for him and he wasn't a cartoon mouse) Centre Back - One of those Easter Island statues (if we could get someone to shift and ship it to SE7 cheaply) Centre Back - Steve Brown (if he hadn't retired) Left Mid - Dennis Rommedahl (oh... whoops) Right Mid - Mark Pinnock (a kid I went to school with - he was mustard quick, like) Centre Mid - A Genetic Cross Between Arnold Schwarzenegger, Usain Bolt and Lionel Messi (if medical science had made advances in genetics to allow it and the ethical debate had passed through the house of commons) Inside Half - Allan Simonsen (if we could go back in time to the 1930s when the 'Inside Half' position was in vogue, but simultaneously play all our matches in the 1980s - perhaps in some 'parallel universe' style scenario) Striker - Charles Charlie Charles (if we could persuade harry Enfield to give us the image rights and pay his appearance fee) Striker - Carl Leaburn (just because... well just because he's Carl Leaburn) Striker - Jonatan Johansson (if we were allowed to play twelve men)[/quote]
Thanks Leroy, now THAT has given me a good laugh just before bedtime here in Brisbane. Cheers.
I thought it was a stupid post but decided not to say it as he is a new user and didnt want to be so rude and unwelcoming whereas you leroy. You take no prisoners. :-)
[cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]I thought it was a stupid post but decided not to say it as he is a new user and didnt want to be so rude and unwelcoming whereas you leroy. You take no prisoners. :-)
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If we release Aswad Thomas, and he plays in the Conference, then becomes a good League Two player, while we get relegated to League Two, it doesn't mean we should never have released him.
At the time we sold him because he wasn't going to break into our team. He only developed into the player he is because he he played regularly in League One and the Championship for a few years.
We didn't know we would be there in a few years time and he would then be good enough for us.
As the great Bernard Manning once said, "If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle."
We farmed out Turner to Brentford for experience and he did very well, so much so that within 18 months of being given a free by us he was sold to Hull for £300,000.
We sent Chris Dickson to Gillingham last season and he did very well. We're not now in the Premiership but at the bottom of the Championship but the Management seems to have a KP type arrogance in their approach to the lad. Let's just hope that, in our plight (both in terms of financial and League position) that we don't make the same mistake because I don't think anyone could say that Dickson hasn't shown that he MIGHT have the potential to succeed at this level.
Or the team we might have been watching this season:
Randolph
Sankofa A.Thomas McCarthy Traore
Lisbie Pouso Faye Hughes
Varney M.Bent
;o)
As the great Bernard Manning once said, "If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle."[/quote]
Lol. I didn't think you were that ugly Ormy. Must have been the beer!
As the great Bernard Manning once said, "If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle."[/quote]
Lol. I didn't think you were that ugly Ormy. Must have been the beer![/quote]
Yeah mate, must have been!!! Hope all is well on the Sunny Coast, been miserable here in Brisneyland the last couple of days.
Randolph
Sankofa A.Thomas McCarthy Traore
Lisbie Pouso Faye Hughes
Varney M.Bent
would they have secured fewer than 19 pts from 26 matches?
debateable, at the very least...
They'd have scored less goals too.
Lisbie, M Bent still to break their duck for the season.
Bryan Hughes, leading goalscorer with 3 (2 pens).
Pouso with 1 goal, a 45 yard screamer like he used to score playing for Argentina once.
They'd have scored less goals too.
Lisbie, M Bent still to break their duck for the season.
Bryan Hughes, leading goalscorer with 3 (2 pens).
Pouso with 1 goal, a 45 yard screamer like he used to score playing for Argentina once.[/quote]
Would not be easy, Mr. Pouso was Uruguyan!!!
After playing around 100 games for Brentford, something we would never have given him in the space of 2 years.
This is how next season’s line-up ‘could’ be shaping up…
Elliott
Moo2 ?? ?? Basey
Sam Bailey Racon (Demontagnac/??)
Burton McLeod
There is the best part of two transfer windows before we, quite possibly, begin our League One campaign. So a lot will happen but the exit will be the busiest doorway at The Valley between now and then I guess – assuming the likes of Weaver, Hudson and Gray can be coaxed through it.
One thing Parky needs to guarantee, with his permanent signings in this window, is that they would make excellent League One acquisitions if we do go down.
A number of Pardew’s buys were so bad that I think a few could sit quite merrily in League One, or lower, without necessarily shining. Bear in mind he bought them to help us get promotion to the Premier League! Jeez…
I mean, when we dropped out of the Prem, would any of you have preferred Semedo and McLeod to Carsley and Phillips?? Because Birmingham brought in the latter pairing when they went down.
But, yes I know, by then the money men upstairs were starting to panic big-time and let’s not get into that again…it ‘should’ve’ been better than this anyhow….
Its a bit like, "Look at what you could have won" on Bullseye as they show you a speed boat. Stiil we got our BFH.
Heres a fact incidentlly on Bullseye the winners didnt actually win the prize they won the cash equivallant to it.
Kiely - Old, past it
Hreidarsson - Ditto
Turner - Utter shit when he came into the team, looked crap at Brentford as well
Diawara - Piss-artist who only turned up once every four games, wasn't that good when he did and wore gloves in fecking August.
Young - Wanted to leave when we got relegated
Murphy - Toys thrown out of the pram about four seasons ago now - and not exactly noted for his prowess on the left wing anyway
Parker - I guess we could have kept him - if we'd quadrupled his wages and been realistically challenging for the Champions' League to satisfy his delusions of grandeur
Reid - Fat, perenially unfit and on premiership wages
Thomas - You MUST be taking the piss here. THomas was the laziest, most selfish, overrated tosspot we've had since Ralph Milne FFS
Defoe - Left when he was still a foetus
Bent - Sold for absolutely silly money to Spurtz - if people think we're up shit creek now, what sort of nick would we have been in if we HADN'T sold Bent at the time and been forced to accept less than a quarter of that a year later?
FWIW, here's my 'Team That Could Have Been'
Goalkeeper - Buffon (if he was born in Eltham)
Left Back - Traore (if he wasn't complete shit)
Right Back - Speedy Gonzales (if we could get a work permit for him and he wasn't a cartoon mouse)
Centre Back - One of those Easter Island statues (if we could get someone to shift and ship it to SE7 cheaply)
Centre Back - Steve Brown (if he hadn't retired)
Left Mid - Dennis Rommedahl (oh... whoops)
Right Mid - Mark Pinnock (a kid I went to school with - he was mustard quick, like)
Centre Mid - A Genetic Cross Between Arnold Schwarzenegger, Usain Bolt and Lionel Messi (if medical science had made advances in genetics to allow it and the ethical debate had passed through the house of commons)
Inside Half - Allan Simonsen (if we could go back in time to the 1930s when the 'Inside Half' position was in vogue, but simultaneously play all our matches in the 1980s - perhaps in some 'parallel universe' style scenario)
Striker - Charles Charlie Charles (if we could persuade harry Enfield to give us the image rights and pay his appearance fee)
Striker - Carl Leaburn (just because... well just because he's Carl Leaburn)
Striker - Jonatan Johansson (if we were allowed to play twelve men)
Hriedarsson, Turner, Diawara, Young
Murphy, Parker, Reid, Thomas
Defoe, Bent[/quote]
This is, hands down, the stupidest post I've ever read on here.
Kiely - Old, past it
Hreidarsson - Ditto
Turner - Utter shit when he came into the team, looked crap at Brentford as well
Diawara - Piss-artist who only turned up once every four games, wasn't that good when he did and wore gloves in fecking August.
Young - Wanted to leave when we got relegated
Murphy - Toys thrown out of the pram about four seasons ago now - and not exactly noted for his prowess on the left wing anyway
Parker - I guess we could have kept him - if we'd quadrupled his wages and been realistically challenging for the Champions' League to satisfy his delusions of grandeur
Reid - Fat, perenially unfit and on premiership wages
Thomas - You MUST be taking the piss here. THomas was the laziest, most selfish, overrated tosspot we've had since Ralph Milne FFS
Defoe - Left when he was still a foetus
Bent - Sold for absolutely silly money to Spurtz - if people think we're up shit creek now, what sort of nick would we have been in if we HADN'T sold Bent at the time and been forced to accept less than a quarter of that a year later?
FWIW, here's my 'Team That Could Have Been'
Goalkeeper - Buffon (if he was born in Eltham)
Left Back - Traore (if he wasn't complete shit)
Right Back - Speedy Gonzales (if we could get a work permit for him and he wasn't a cartoon mouse)
Centre Back - One of those Easter Island statues (if we could get someone to shift and ship it to SE7 cheaply)
Centre Back - Steve Brown (if he hadn't retired)
Left Mid - Dennis Rommedahl (oh... whoops)
Right Mid - Mark Pinnock (a kid I went to school with - he was mustard quick, like)
Centre Mid - A Genetic Cross Between Arnold Schwarzenegger, Usain Bolt and Lionel Messi (if medical science had made advances in genetics to allow it and the ethical debate had passed through the house of commons)
Inside Half - Allan Simonsen (if we could go back in time to the 1930s when the 'Inside Half' position was in vogue, but simultaneously play all our matches in the 1980s - perhaps in some 'parallel universe' style scenario)
Striker - Charles Charlie Charles (if we could persuade harry Enfield to give us the image rights and pay his appearance fee)
Striker - Carl Leaburn (just because... well just because he's Carl Leaburn)
Striker - Jonatan Johansson (if we were allowed to play twelve men)[/quote]
Thanks Leroy, now THAT has given me a good laugh just before bedtime here in Brisbane. Cheers.
Oops!, and so he was. Probably still is, too.