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Quite simple choice - New Manager or 4 players

supaclivesupaclive
edited January 2009 in General Charlton
Sorry if it's already been done, but I've spent the last few days doing family things and even in my woe is me state, I couldn't bear to post when Parky got the job.

Anyway - given the choice - a new manager or new players - what would you choose.

Me - I'd have gone for the new manager.

Comments

  • mascot88mascot88
    new manager.......
  • Dazzler21Dazzler21
    Manager - unless they were parkinson standard or lower!
  • NugNug
    Me too, I don't agree that our players are crap, seen plenty of Championship teams with average players that play with pride, passion and purpose, Bristol, Barnsley, Burnley, Palace....could go on and list pretty much the whole league, apart from the 4 or 5 teams we have just failed to beat. Feeling pretty despondent today.
  • WhenIwasLittleBoyWhenIwasLittleBoy
    new manager.............or did therer choices turn them down? A good manager should get the best out of that squad. We should have brought someone in with fresh ideas,, give the players a kick up the arse, and given the whole place a lift...........Billy Davis was the man to do that, watch Forest now
  • cafcpolocafcpolo
    New players for me, we need a couple of permanent signings...Freshen the side up, give some GOOD competition to the current squad. Gives us the chance to get rid of a couple of loanees as well & get people playing that will give their all.
  • StrikerFirmaniStrikerFirmani
    Depends who the 4 players are going to be. If they are of the calibre of Deon Burton then god help us.

    I pray we don't get relegated but looks like we have planned for next season by appointing someone with a good track record of getting a club promoted from division 3 with no money.
  • GoonerhaterGoonerhater
    SF well lets hope that in this case they are correct ----------i mean it worked so well with Pardew didnt it !
  • BlackForestRedsBlackForestReds
    I'd take Parky and four new players.
  • Dazzler21Dazzler21
    I think so long as they are Permanent movers we might survive but a manager should have been a top priority.
  • Clem_SnideClem_Snide
    In an ideal world both, we don't live in an ideal world though do we.

    I have grave concerns as to the cailibre of player that is going to come in.

    My worry is that Burton is going to count as a one of the four and that if we resign Cranie till the end of the season that will be another one down, as to who the other two will be I dread to think.

    Getting back to the point........manager all the way.
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  • nth_london_addicknth_london_addick
    you may be right clem :-( I fear Burton is one of those
  • LargeAddickLargeAddick
    [cite]Posted By: Clem_Snide[/cite]I have grave concerns as to the cailibre of player that is going to come in.

    exactly. That's why I'd vote for a new manager all the time. He could get enough out of the current squad to keep us up.
  • Oggy RedOggy Red
    edited January 2009
    Parky said in his KM interview today:

    "It would have been so frustrating if someone else (another manager) had come in. I'm not interested in new contracts or money, I just wanted to stay with Charlton."



    So, can we assume that he is just staying on his existing Assistant Manager contract for now - perhaps with a 'staying up bonus' or an offer of an improved contract at the end of the season should we avoid relegation ....?

    In which case to appoint Parky as manager hasn't cost the Board one brass farthing in his wage costs.
  • BigRedEvilBigRedEvil
    New manager was quite clealy needed.

    Hudson
    Fortune
    Weaver
    Gray
    Ambrose
    Bailey etc etc

    They haven't become bad players overnight, what they need is good coaching, someone to motivate them and believe in them. Look at Warnock, getting the best out of an average bunch at Palace. We don;t have that. Pardew couldn't do it and nor can Parky.
  • Sailor BrowneyeSailor Browneye
    As Clem says further up this thread - ideally both and, frankly, as a club with aspirations of being the biggest club south of the River Thames (I wonder who coined that phrase eh?) then we should have been able to!!

    A new manager and a few new players, blimey, what a luxury!

    But beggars can't be choosers.

    So, for me, four new players, without question, as not even Curbs wearing Arsene Wenger's underpants and carrying Sir Alex's hip flask would keep this squad up.

    But, fearful of more CAFC spin, I hope Burton isn't one of the four and I hope Cranie's replacement isn't either. We also surely have to tie down McEveley and Bouazza for the season or we could see a key player or two just walk out the door in the middle of our fight for survival.

    I mean what kind of a club would...

    Oh, fair enough....
  • nigelnigel
    edited January 2009
    I fear we might end up with neither a new manager nor four genuinely new players.

    I guess the board said to Parky something along the lines of : 'If you will do the job on an assistant manager's salary and without taking on another assistant, the job's yours and we won't interview anyone else'.

    So let's hear no more about busting the bank to pay-off Pardew : all they have to do is keep Parky under the present no-additional-cost arrangement for 18 months or however long Pardew had left on his contract and it has in effect cost them nothing to get rid of him.

    Similarly, these three or four new faces that are going to ''lift the team'' will also have to be cost neutral. So Burton is the first. And the second? Well what's the betting that at some time in the next day or so, Parky is going to tell us: "Having Darren Ambrose back is as good as signing a new player - better in some ways, because he knows all about us and what is required."

    The spin that's being served up at the moment is becoming so predictable , you can write the script for them.

    Any genuinely new faces are only going to arrive after someone else has been shipped out, because the board's main motivation at the moment is that everything has to be cost neutral - and that is seen as more important than what's happening on the pitch.

    I can understand why : they want out and are trying to sell the club. If I was in their shoes, quite possibly I would be reluctant to spend any more money, too. But let's be honest: it's no way to run a serious football club, is it?
  • Bournemouth AddickBournemouth Addick
    Gotta have been a new man in charge. As the above have pointed out we have (on paper) a squad of decent enough quality to at least be competitive in this league yet due to the constant messing about, poor motivation & coaching, etc we find ourselves in it up to our necks. A new broom could have made much more of a difference than 4 signings that, let's face it, are unlikely to be in the Ronaldo bracket.
  • ScohamScoham
    [cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]Similarly, these three or four new faces that are going to ''lift the team'' will also have to be cost neutral. So Burton is the first. And the second? Well what's the betting that at some time in the next day or so, Parky is going to tell us: "Having Darren Ambrose back is as good as signing a new player - better in some ways, because he knows all about us and what is required."

    If Pardew was still here he would have said it by now!
  • PavoPavo
    I'd take 4 hungry players with a point to prove. The approach we used to take before our Premiership years. Parky will give his all in an attempt to keep us up and four new players in key positions with no 'low confidence' baggage may be what we need to start building a winning run.

    Relatively low risk strategy for a Board looking to sell up, as they can sell more players should the worst happen, whereas shelling out compensation getting rid of another manger would be potentially more expensive.
  • SE7SE7
    New Manager - 4 quality championship players or worse couldn't get us out of the shit we r in but a good manager could!!!
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  • ShootersHillGuruShootersHillGuru
    Manager is most important part of the team.
  • bingaddickbingaddick
    Manager for me. If we sign four more players and the manager can't mould them into a team, we're f*cked! On the other hand a decent manager could inspire the current rabble.
  • mstoneaddickmstoneaddick
    Manager. I really worry about the calibre coming in.
  • Oggy RedOggy Red
    Where are we going to get 4 quality Championship players from mid-season, when they are all still in contract?

    And if they are any good, then they'll be wanted by their existing clubs.

    Anyway, who in their right mind wants to swap, say chance of a play-off place and potential promotion to the Prem, for a relegation dogfight at a club where the fans don't have confidence in the manager.

    Maybe they'll be swayed by the best wages in the division, lol
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