Almost 'identical' to the one that Weaver 'let in' recently...except the one that went past Weaver was an even better strike than yesterday....it clipping the inside of the post and being totally 'unstopable'.
Funny how he got a shed load of stick for what many called a blunder and yet Elliot is getting off largely stock free?
I'm not getting into the Weaver/Elliot debate here, just pointing out that Weaver was given a lot of undeserved stick at the time.
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Typical inconsistent refereeing. Two banged on penalties in the second half for handball - Far worse than the one given against us for Semedo's brush with the Ball against Derby.
I think that was why PP was sent to the stand.
I think I've had too many mince pies.
Mate,that drove me fcuking mad yesterday!!!!! I actualy belive that is more of a crime than the way we have been playing this season. Pardew went for not doing his job, weaver is going the same way lets just hope the same happens to him either that or someone shoves that microphone up his arse!!!!!
Funny how he got a shed load of stick for what many called a blunder and yet Elliot is getting off largely stock free?
I'm not getting into the Weaver/Elliot debate here, just pointing out that Weaver was given a lot of undeserved stick at the time.[/quote]
Difference is Weaver had been shit for two months and was 'comfy' in his place and didnt look like improving.
Elliotts distribution pisses all over Weaver,and as for that first half save, well...
Somebody should have advised him better. Hopefully he will learn from that.
May be our geographical realignment is no bad thing, though. Does it mean next season we can be second in East London after West Ham, instead of third in south London after Palarse and newly-promoted Millwall?
Shaun Bartlett would have stopped that on the post in the Curbs days.
I don't think a rookie keeper can be blamed for defensive disorganisation. That is down to the management or captain.
An indirect free kick is only given for offside or obstruction, A high foot would be dangerous play ie Direct free kick
Mate,that drove me fcuking mad yesterday!!!!! I actualy belive that is more of a crime than the way we have been playing this season. Pardew went for not doing his job, weaver is going the same way lets just hope the same happens to him either that or someone shoves that microphone up his arse!!!!![/quote]
same here, that bloke drives me mental....can't stand him and when he said 'East London' yesterday that was the final straw..
The keeper organises the wall defending a direct free kick.
Always, whatever level of football.
have to disagree colin (though i have been known to get these things wrong), if the free kick was given by the ref interpreting it as dangerous, then it is an indirect free kick.
i'm sure one of our resident ref's (spankie & cfw i think) will put me straight.
As per Elliot & Weaver I personally think we should stick with Elliot for the time being he seems to command the goal area better and his handling seems assured and certainly better distribution than Weaver.
Indirect Free Kick
An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper,
inside his own penalty area, commits any of the following four offences:
• controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before
releasing it from his possession
• touches the ball again with his hands after he has released it from
his possession and before it has touched another player
• touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked
to him by a team-mate
• touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from
a throw-in taken by a team-mate
An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if, in the
opinion of the referee, a player:
• plays in a dangerous manner
• impedes the progress of an opponent
• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands
• commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12,
for which play is stopped to caution or send off a player
The indirect free kick is taken from the place where the offence
occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick).
However, if questioned the referee would almost certainly say he gave the free-kick for Kicks or attempts to kick an opponent.
Direct Free Kick
A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits
any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the
referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent
• tackles an opponent
A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player
commits any of the following three offences:
• holds an opponent
• spits at an opponent
• handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his
own penalty area)
A direct free kick is taken from the place where the offence occurred
Still blame Hudson more though.
Elliot does not fill me with any confidence.....Weaver was having a rocky spell, that might have been down to the injuries he was carrying.
His history with us is always going to make him a soft target. IMHO he is a better keeper than Elliot or Randolph. I suspect we will see him back in the team sooner rather than later.
Having said all of that, he'll be gone at the end of the season.
That is the key observation in all this Len. With the speed that the ball travels (and swerves) it is ludicrous to expect one man to be responsible for a full eight yards of goal. In the old days we always had a man (frequently two) on the line and we never gave away soft free kicks like that. You can't blame that on the keeper;that's not about positioning a wall, that is a tactical decision and the manager has to take the blame.
it is called experience folks the one thing young Elliot doesnt have at the moment, but do you know what ? fuk it he is Charlton he is Trying and he will make mistakes but stay with him as he is one of us.
What if Shelvey gets a run will we say his passing is not as good as Hollands or ZZ or Bailey, His Shooting is not like Kinsella or jensen
we need our players to come through to try hard and give us a chance.
we are in the position we are in
because of players like Weaver,Gray and hudson
We need Shelvey,Elliot,Wright and co to get used to playing with freedom and not have people being critical over their first couple of errors
FFS if you cant stick with them you may as well give up