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Jack's story

Watched a documentary on bbc 1 last night about a soldier in Afganistan and it then followed him when he ruturned to the uk.The geezer was a proper hero for what he achieved out there and on his previous tours.It was however very sad that when he returned to the U.K. he got himself in a bit of bovver on civvy street and ended up leaving the army.What a waste of a truly great soldier.

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    Great telly that, I watched it as well, seemed like a good lad. Not easy out there eh?
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    He was a proper lad,and from the perception of him out there you wouldn't have thought he would get in trouble back home.But you just dont realise what it does to the soldier's heads.
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    Steve, we look after Ben Anderson the guy who made that programme. he brought Jack into see us and he was a top bloke, the way we treat servicemen is disgusting. he was a top bloke he has now got a job on an oil rig, dont think he will ever sign up again. he lost many close friends in battle. Ben was a character witness when Jack was on trail for the assult it was amazing he didnt go down but he deserved a break to be honest. anyway top bloke who is getting his life back on track.
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    how 2 of them managed to deal with 5 casualties after the suicide bomber is absolutely remarkable.
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    he said he just went into a mad frenzy and just kept going until everyone was safe.. the human body and mind is amazing when faced with situations like that.
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    I couldn't get over the bit where the afgan bloke got the end of his gun shot off!
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    Great documentary.
    Watched in on BBC4 a couple of months ago.
    When you see programmes like that you think that perhaps the licence fee isn't such a rip-off after all.
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    The is a great poem by Rudyard Kipling about the way we treat " Tommy Atkins"

    " Its Tommy this and Tommy that----


    it sums up how the UK have treated service men over generations ------------------total shit. Hope some one can post it on here.
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    TOMMY
    by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

    I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
    The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
    The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
    I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
    O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
    But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
    The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
    O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

    I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
    They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
    They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
    But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
    But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
    The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
    O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

    Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
    Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
    An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
    Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
    Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
    But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
    The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
    O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

    We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
    But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
    An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
    Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
    While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
    But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
    There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
    O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

    You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
    We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
    Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
    The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
    But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
    An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
    An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Barn Door Varney[/cite]I couldn't get over the bit where the afgan bloke got the end of his gun shot off![/quote]

    And just laughed it off


    Great TV

    As said a proper hero
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