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Salary cap in Championship on the agenda - thoughts ?

Championship clubs are considering a salary cap to help prevent spiralling financial losses as the economy heads into a recession. Most clubs in the division are losing significant money because they pay what one chairman described as "unsustainable" wages on players they hope will win them promotion to the Premier League.

Without the cushion of the multimillion-pound television deal enjoyed by the 20 Premier League clubs, Championship clubs are reporting tougher economic conditions, with away gates beginning to suffer and sponsorships and corporate hospitality harder to secure.

Adam Pearson, the chairman of football at Derby County, warned that football is inadequately prepared for the economic downturn. "The game is close to meltdown at all levels," he said. "Club boards are under pressure to gain success and that leads to them paying ridiculous wages. It cannot carry on or it will end in disaster. There is a growing feeling now that some sort of wage cap has to come in."

A salary cap for the Championship has been discussed theoretically ever since the 2002 collapse of ITV Digital, which plunged many Football League clubs into financial difficulties. In the reforms which followed, League Two clubs did agree in 2003-04 to limit their spending on wages to 60% of their turnover. That has lasted ever since but League One clubs jettisoned the same system after just a single season, 2004-05.

The Football League's chairman, Lord Mawhinney, is a confirmed advocate of a salary cap in all three divisions, particularly the Championship where wage inflation, trickling down from the Premier League, is more acute and several big clubs are making annual losses of £4m-5m. In a series of meetings of Championship clubs during the past year Mawhinney is understood to have pressed the case for a salary cap and called for votes, but failed to gain the support of a majority.

Now many club chairmen and chief executives are reporting that the mood has changed, prompted by alarm at the effect the recession is having. Many clubs are preparing to seek sponsorship for next season, a task one senior club source said is proving "difficult" because it is "grim out there". Second-tier sponsors especially, who do not have their name on team shirts but pay to advertise or sponsor matches or stands, tend to be more local businesses than the big companies attracted by the Premier League, and many of those are struggling so have less money to spend on football.

Mawhinney, who is understood to have lined up a series of meetings with club owners to press his case, will, however, have to persuade some who accept that wages must come down, but do not favour a league-wide restriction.

Rupert Lowe, Southampton's chairman, said: "The British economy is in dire trouble and it is seriously going to affect football. Players' wages are at unsustainable levels in a recession, and our ticket sales, corporate hospitality and sponsorship are down. Boards should keep wages below 60% of turnover, but I have never been in favour of a cap."

Informed sources say that as clubs assess the scale of the downturn, more than half are now in favour of introducing a salary cap. Some are debating the level it should be placed at, with a feeling growing that 60% is too high and arguing that the limit should be set at 50% of turnover.

Ray Ranson, the Coventry City chairman, said he believes football will be relatively resilient in the recession because people traditionally remain loyal to their clubs in difficult economic times, but clubs should nevertheless rein in their excessive spending on players' wages.

"A salary cap should not limit individual players' wages," he argued. "But restraining wages to a proportion of turnover would be a good thing and in today's climate, people should think seriously about it."

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    I think it is a good idea, although I guess it would take a few years to really make a difference as clubs with big wage earners would need to wait for those players contracts to expire before they can drop down to that level.
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    In principle a good idea but not sure how realistic it is when the "prize" of the Premier is just one more expensive signing away.

    If you stopped promotion to the prem then I could see it working but otherwise there will always be someone willing to splash a bit of extra cash to reach the promised land. And what what would it mean if Zebeel had taken over? Would they not be allowed to spend their cash.

    I think tighter financial regulation to show that clubs have the resources to pay their bills and more open accountability would be more useful.
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    Shouldn't this be every league.

    I think it is a good idea - that way it will stop clubs like us giving silly contracts to over inflated stars in the desperste attempt to get back into the PL.

    Incentives to top up money should be given if need be - even percentage of shirt sales with names on back or something like that.

    What's wrong with 10k a week at this level - any level for that matter FFS
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    Very good idea

    and agree it should be across the whole of football
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    If this happens i reckon the Premiership will have no relegation and no promotion from the Championship.
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    It could also make it even more difficult for promoted clubs to stay in the premiership. A pay cap would make the Championship/Premiership gap even wider..........
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    [cite]Posted By: pete_tong1[/cite]If this happens i reckon the Premiership will have no relegation and no promotion from the Championship.

    Never one to miss a conspiracy theory Pete : - )
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    [cite]Posted By: Ledge[/cite]Shouldn't this be every league.

    I think it is a good idea - that way it will stop clubs like us giving silly contracts to over inflated stars in the desperste attempt to get back into the PL.

    Incentives to top up money should be given if need be - even percentage of shirt sales with names on back or something like that.

    What's wrong with 10k a week at this level - any level for that matter FFS

    Would think there are plenty of players at this level who'd be over the moon at £10k PW
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    Don't they do this sort of thing in Rugby Union? I think in theory its a very good idea, but in practise I'm not so sure it'd work.
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    It's 'Anti competition' and Illegal under EU law. It's fine if everyone makes a gentlemans agreement now, but what happens if a large overseas company decide they want to buy a team? They want to spend the money on players and salarys now, unless the EU change the football to a special case a salary cap will not be enforceable and it will crumble

    I remember Richard Murray proposing the need to trickle down more money to the lower leagues at a Premiership chairmans meeting a few years ago which was thrown out almost unanamously (Sp?)... I wonder if a few of the chairmen involved in voting out the proposal would have liked to changed things with hindsight of how their clubs are now. I was listening to Talk Sport last night and Stan Collymore was making an excellent point about the need for a more even distribution of money to help the lower league clubs funding.
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    [cite]Posted By: 1905[/cite]It could also make it even more difficult for promoted clubs to stay in the premiership. A pay cap would make the Championship/Premiership gap even wider..........

    In the short term ccc clubs would not be able to make the jump to the pl imo, but its not just the normal leagues that are in trouble, the pl is surely far more expossed to the financial market as the clubs have so much more to lose??
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    In the real world a good idea
    In the economic world a fantastic idea
    In the footballers worlsd an awful idea
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    The premiere league would become like the NBA and NFL with 'francise' teams as someone said earlier no relegation or promotion you will have to buy your way into it. I could see within 10 years the champions league being a legaue in its self with Chelsea Man Utd and Arsenal and Liverpool in it. Arnt Celtic and Rangers supposed to be joining some weird league soon??
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    would just mean that clubs relegated from the prem would have no need for parachute payments as they wouldn't be allowed to pay that level of wages in the ccc.
    what would happen to that 'parachute' money? well i don't think it would go accross the board to all ccc teams, it would just mean a slightly bigger % of tv wonga for all prem clubs.
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    I would not be too upset if Prem relegation and championship promotion was halted, but thats for another thread. I am not sure how it can work in the Championship, without further widening the gap between relegated clubs and the rest. How does a relegated club dispose of players who they cannot afford? Or do they have a salary cap parachute, in which case along with the parachute money they potentially, if they don't squander the money, have an unfair advantage over the rest of the teams.
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    [cite]Posted By: T[/cite]It's 'Anti competition' and Illegal under EU law. It's fine if everyone makes a gentlemans agreement now, but what happens if a large overseas company decide they want to buy a team? They want to spend the money on players and salarys now, unless the EU change the football to a special case a salary cap will not be enforceable and it will crumble

    I'm no lawyer and certainly no Euro lawyer. I've little doubt that individual salary caps are not permitted but what about maximum salary thresholds, either as a proportion of turnover or just a global cap for each club? That way players would receive a market driven price for their services but the clubs would need to balance the needs of individuals within an overall sum.
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    Perhaps the salary-cap (eg. 60% of turnover) only kicks in if a club wants to pay one or more players above an agreed threshold .... for example £7.5k per week in The Championship.

    Also the salary-cap level could be reduced by 1% a season until it is at 50%.
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    % of turnover would give the relegated Prem teams a huge advantage over the established Champs teams too. I also believe it will end promotion and relegation.
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    Will someone correct me if I'm wrong?
    Player: I will sign for you if you pay X amount of £s
    Chairman of club: No way we're paying that!
    Player: I will sign for you if you pay x amount of £s
    Chairman of club 2: pi55 off you greedy git!
    player: I will sign for you if you pay me X amount of £s
    Chairman of club 3: on ya bike!
    Chairman dont pay the wages demanded, players dont get overpaid.
    Too simple? I thought it was ;-)
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    [cite]Posted By: T.C.E[/cite]
    Chairman dont pay the wages demanded, players dont get overpaid.
    Too simple? I thought it was ;-)

    correct , greedy chairmen trying a quick fix to success and premiership bucks !!
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    edited December 2008
    Player says to press
    "I was keen to join Charlton but they didn't meet my career goals" (wouldn't pay what I wanted)

    Likely Fan reaction

    Ambition, lack of

    Foresight, lack of

    Goals, will now score against us

    Missed, another one we have

    Jigsaw, final piece would have been

    Board, must go

    Foreign Investment, must have it.

    Money, where did it all go?

    Unlikely fan reaction

    Board, well done for making an independent stand against player wages
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    Is Yoda a fan then Henry? ;-)
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    Id be must more interested in a cap accross the board on ticket prices!!!
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    Like you Bing i'm no lawyer but as far as i understand it unless the EU make Football a 'special case' i'm pretty sure that there can be no restrictions on what companies (clubs) can and can't do to interms of spending. You can have Gentlemans agreements like in Rugby Union where there is a salary cap and In Rugby League where they are all franchises of the Super League. The difference is that if anyone is penalised for breaking the Salary cap, and would recieve a points deduction you could fight it in the courts in Rugby Union (and more than likely win) while you couldn't in Rugby league as you are just a subset of the actual company 'Super League'

    Does 'Brussels' still post on here, i seem to remember her being a lawyer that specailised in Sport. She could probably give us as steer on the legality of the situation.
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    they discussed this on radio 4 this morning with Peter 'fish tank' ridsdale against the idea. Essentially saying that as long as chairman/directors of clubs lived within their means there would be no need for this. He also felt it wouldunfairly advantage those coming down from the premier league as their parachute payments would be part of their turnover.

    It was a pretty crappy piece in all honesty as the radio 4 interviewer did not challenge either representative on anything they said.
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    risdale, black, pot, kettle - rearrange for fun ;-)
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    edited December 2008
    Good idea in principle BUT.....wouldn't this just lead to more PL bench warmers / non 1st XVI players happy to accept not playing for higher wages, rather than dropping down a division? Alsod the PL stockpiling the best home grown youngsters, but offering them little opportunity to ply their trade and improve?

    For example; 19 yr old Charlie Kick-a-Ball is on £15k p/w playing around 10/15mins of football every 2 weeks for a PL side but cant get into the side because Carlos Kick-a-Ball is in front of him. A CCC side offer him £8k p/w to join them with the promise of 1st team football. He declines because of the almost 50% cut in wages....

    We're already seeing this now with the gap between wages in the PL and even the top CCC sides meaning that the transfers between the top CCC and bottom / middle PL sides, which was once pretty fluid, is drying up.

    Also if wage caps are measured as a % of turnover wouldn't that stop the smaller sides being able to compete? I know it may protect them and everyone from over extending themselves but it would mean that in essence you're creating a two tier system, such as in the PL, where the best FL players can only be afforded by the biggest FL teams.

    As I said. Good idea in principle, but, IMO, this is not the answer.....I'm not saying I know what is mind you.
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    I doubt a salary cap for an organization would breach EU legislation as it only limits the scope of a club to negotiate within overall salary expenditure - not an individual salary. It is anti free market but hardly anti competitive if it applies to all competitors in a given market.

    It is feasible to set financial trading criteria & levies (wealth taxes) to which participating members would contract, allowing for those seeking/ able to spend beyond the cap. Relegated PL clubs would be in this category though any cap will exacerbate an already cataclysmic change.

    The criteria enable any cap to be policed with breaches triggering agreed levies. There is no specific trading restraint other than the need to show the financial ability to meet such costs and pay the previously agreed levies.

    For a salary cap to work however it will need to operate at all levels of the professional game at least nationally if not across Europe. A sound financial discipline it problematically brings an element of a level playing field. Professional football like so much of life today is dominated by self interest.

    Those operating at the highest levels of “our sport” control its operational regime and finances to their advantage. Not blind to the financial benefits of a cap, any level playing field threatens their sovereignty within the game. Only if they can “ring fence” their market would they even entertain it.

    The point re stockpiling talent is well made. The US professional sport disciplines re terms & conditions of recruitment, employment & remuneration of players need to be studied. There are lessons to be learnt. In football it is too easy for wealthy clubs to stockpile talent to the detriment of them and the game.

    Allowing exceptions for players to be placed on injured reserve and practice squads the limiting of the number of professionals & apprentices each club can employ will a) spread the talent pool b) focus on developing the talent held under contract.

    A model where a club wishing to acquire a new player has to release somebody else for transfer (allowing other clubs to agree terms with that player) would enable freedom of movement and perhaps remove the anathema of the transfer window. It would certainly focus the mind and the abilities of the coaches.

    Again sadly in the world of todays professional football it is hardly like to happen - Is it?


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