18months ago a Prem team, now wondering if we can stay in the Chumps League.
Looking at loan players like Harte and Powell.
Not enough money to pay a "manager" off who has totaly failed.
RM admits what we all know , unless we can get a new investor we wont be geting near the prem any time soon.
5 seasons of total shit football ---------------------they are lucky to get 21,000 + crowds.
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but they are still lucky toget 21,000 at home and 500 away.
Stop moaning and go to the Sheff Utd expecting to win. if the players do the same we will win, and then they'll be a nice run ahead of us and a Happy Christmas.
Now go to the pub, have a nice dinner, have sex - whatever you do on a Saturday evening and enjoy yourselves.
Although we seem to have played better over the last two away games, we've still only managed one point out of six, so how confident are we that 12 points from the next seven is going to happen?
It means hitting as good a run as any we have achieved under Mr Pardew in two years, either :
a) four wins in seven games
or
b) three wins and three draws in seven games.
I'm praying for it to happen but I'm also acutely aware that from our last seven games we've got three points. If the manager can deliver those 12 points - a 400 per cent improvement on the last seven games - then he deserves another chance. If he can't, then it has to be goodbye.
I'm not re-opening the 'Pards out' campaign. Just trying to set some realistic - and frankly generous and fair- objectives which he has to meet over the next five weeks if he is to keep his job...
Bloody hell Jim.I think this is the most positive post i have ever seen.Are you a life coach?
At Argyle last week, I went expecting the worst ....... but it wasn't like that, the team played as a team and we really should have been leading before Argyle scored - we were the better team for long periods and really should have won that match.
I wasn't at St Andrews today obviously, but from the reports and comments, again we've had a team performance that built upon last week's performance. We played a team 2nd in the League mainly made up from their last season's Premier squad - and we played well enough to deserve a result.
There's definitely been a huge improvement in the last 2 games.
We're playing as a team again at last. So why bring out the knives again now?
At Argyle last week, I went expecting the worst ....... but it wasn't like that, the team played as a team and we really should have been leading before Argyle scored - we were the better team for long periods and really should have won that match.
I wasn't at St Andrews today obviously, but from the reports and comments, again we've had a team performance that built upon last week's performance. We played a team 2nd in the League mainly made up from their last season's Premier squad - and we played well enough to deserve a result.
There's definitely been a huge improvement in the last 2 games.
We're playing as a team again at last. So why bring out the knives again now?[/quote]
BECAUSE WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY LOSING! We've had two improved performances and got 1 point - ergo, if our best isn't good enough, how on earth are we going to get win any points ....!
And it's considerably less than Barnsley's form who were below us a couple of weeks ago . They've managed 13 points from their last six games. And they're still not out of trouble !
The team is playing so much better in the last 2 games ......both away from home at grounds where most teams in the division would expect to get beat.
Judge them on next week - rather than get frustrated that we didn't get 3 points from the 2nd placed team, at one of the most difficult grounds in the division to get a result?
I know it's not easy and he is treading a very fine line but if performances are improving slightly then we may just be better off sticking with him for a bit.
This team plays much better, looks like a team at last - and have been so close to getting it right and winning these games.
Why are some slagging them off for doing that?
"we may just be better off sticking with him for a bit."
Agreed but it depends wht you mean by "a bit". If we take his crisis moment as coming after the Barnsley game, it seems more than generous to give him another nine games (20 per cent of the entire season) between that nadir and Xmas.
The question is what points haul does he need to deliver over those nine games to justify a further extension. I'd say 13, which is less than a point and a half per game. Two of those nine games have gone and have yielded a solitary point. So that's seven games to get 12 more points. Otherwise, he should be givedn his P45 on the second anniversary of his appointment and someone else should be in charge by Boxing Day.
When i say a bit i do mean a bit.2 maybe 3 games.I'm just going on what others have said about a slightly improved perfomance in the last two games.If that changes from this point forward then he has to go.
I also wonder if the real reason we have not had any loan players in before this game is because the Board gave Pardew until this game to turn us around and didn't want him to blow the last bit of budget if they were to get rid soon after....
They're not even loan players, its November and they haven't got a club at all.
Adrift is a good word for us at the moment, maybe for te last 4 seasons -----------------------adrift.
The top two this season are extraordinary. generally a top two team averages 2 points a game hence 92 points a season. from seven games you'd get 14 points. I think that calling 12 points 'virtually top two form' is not wide of the mark. Why compare ourselves to one team like Barnsley? Why not pick Watford who incidentally have just sacked their manager ( a solution according to many on here).
If our best isn't good enough then it isn't good enough and we go down. What exactly do you want? If you've recently found Jesus then please let us know and we'll put him in charge. Otherwise how can you ask for more than 'our best'. I repeat 'what do you want exactly?'
People are far too negative. If we've improved our play then that's good news. Better to play well and lose than play badly and lose as we were before. Soon we will play well and win. Things could be much worse: if we sack the manager, who are we going to get? I'll tell you - someone who will take us into the bottom three and stay there. Pardew's only taking us up from now on providing that the Plymouth and Birmingham spirit continues.