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Luke Varney..............110% Effort but 0 goals!!

edited November 2008 in General Charlton
After watching the last 5 Charlton games - i can't help thinking that although Varney puts 110% effort in every game and covers more grass than any other player, the fact that he hasn't scored any goal must soon mean he has to be dropped!! Ultimately a striker is on the pitch to score and if he continues not to do so Pardew has to give Chrissy Dickson a go or try to get a loanee in that can get us somes goals. The two chances he fluffed against Burnley at home we're shocking and just confirmed his lack of confidence at the moment...................himself and Pardew keep saying its only a matter of time before he starts banging them in, but in our current position in the league how long can we afford to wait?

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  • Am I alone in thinking McLeod deserves a proper run in the team or has Pards given up on him as well as Dickson
  • [cite]Posted By: East Kent Addick[/cite]Am I alone in thinking McLeod deserves a proper run in the team or has Pards given up on him as well as Dickson

    McLeod more so than Dickson in my eyes.
  • [cite]Posted By: addicked4life[/cite]After watching the last 5 Charlton games - i can't help thinking that although Varney puts 110% effort in every game and covers more grass than any other player, the fact that he hasn't scored any goal must soon mean he has to be dropped!! Ultimately a striker is on the pitch to score and if he continues not to do so Pardew has to give Chrissy Dickson a go or try to get a loanee in that can get us somes goals. The two chances he fluffed against Burnley at home we're shocking and just confirmed his lack of confidence at the moment...................himself and Pardew keep saying its only a matter of time before he starts banging them in, but in our current position in the league how long can we afford to wait?

    Maybe a change of manager might do the trick as it seems to have worked wonders for Darren Bent!
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    Maybe a change of manager might do the trick as it seems to have worked wonders for Darren Bent!

    I think the difference is that Benty wasn't starting under Jol or Ramos and is now whereas Varney always starts for us.
  • What would have been Varney's salvation, even if he was not scoring himself, would be turning provider for others to score.

    But by and large, I can't really remember him being effective creating chances for others, either.

    It's a shame, because he comes across as an honest pro who just wants to play football - but the fact is,. he doesn't appear to be making an effective contribution at the moment.

    Time to rest him and take away the pressure.
  • [cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]
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    Maybe a change of manager might do the trick as it seems to have worked wonders for Darren Bent![/cite]
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    I think the difference is that Benty wasn't starting under Jol or Ramos and is now whereas Varney always starts for us.[/cite]

    Yeah,Fair Point AA
  • Perhaps Varney should cut down on the work rate and get in box a bit more often, supply from midfield is none existant, but always tracking back and running channels aint gonna get goals!
  • I believe that's much of his problem, Midlands ........ he plays the game at 100mph like a bloody racehorse, no time for subtleties nor composure playing like that.

    He's just trying too hard.
  • [cite]Posted By: MIDLANDS ADDICK[/cite]always tracking back and running channels aint gonna get goals!

    It seems to work for a certain Wayne Rooney...;-)
  • Howabout dropping the ones who don't give 100% before the ones that do?

    Once Varney gets that goal then he could be onto summat. Dropping him will dent his confidence even more - He brings far too much, and works far too hard for the team to even think about being dropped in my book. We need a few more like him,.
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  • Thats a bit unfair. He's scored 2 goals so far this year.
  • [cite]Posted By: boggzy[/cite]Howabout dropping the ones who don't give 100% before the ones that do?

    Once Varney gets that goal then he could be onto summat. Dropping him will dent his confidence even more - He brings far too much, and works far too hard for the team to even think about being dropped in my book. We need a few more like him,.
    Spot on boggzy.
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]I believe that's much of his problem, Midlands ........ he plays the game at 100mph like a bloody racehorse, no time for subtleties nor composure playing like that.

    He's just trying too hard.

    Spot on Oggy.
  • All this is very well but I can't help one vital point is being missed here - how is pardew asking/telling him to play?

    The fact that Pardew has given him such a long spell in the team and that on the whole he's pretty much immune to criticism surely means he's doing what his manager is asking of him?

    I agree he should be scoring more goals but if he's doing what he's being told to do for the team than it's not his fault he's not scoring but Pardew's.
  • It's a shame that one of the few players who comes across as actually wanting to play for us can't do what he's paid to do. I think that if he had someone beside him up front who was a confident and regular scorer then some of that confidence might run off on him. All the expectation seems to be weighing heavy on his shoulders. A different manager might get more out of him but that's probably not going to happen just yet.
  • [cite]Posted By: C_f_W[/cite] if he's doing what he's being told to do for the team than it's not his fault he's not scoring but Pardew's.
    I must admit I don't understand why Pards told Varney to miss open goals ;-)
  • he reminds me of a puppy chasing a ball

    he's like "Ball, ball, ball" and he chases after it like a nutter. but when he gets it he becomes confused.
  • lol...open goal aside
  • [cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: MIDLANDS ADDICK[/cite]always tracking back and running channels aint gonna get goals!

    It seems to work for a certain Wayne Rooney...;-)

    Interesting point that one because, in the League, these are the stats for the following forwards:

    Rooney.........805 mins.......3 goals.......36 attempts.......21 chances created
    Bent............839 mins.......7 goals.......24 attempts.......12 chances created
    Defoe..........971 mins........6 goals......36 attempts........5 chances created

    Conclusion: Benty has the best strike rate but still creates chances for team mates. Rooney shoots on site, has a low conversion rate but creates an average of 2 to 3 chances per game for others. And Defoe is just selfish.
  • edited November 2008
    [cite]Posted By: addicked4life[/cite]After watching the last 5 Charlton games - i can't help thinking that although Varney puts 110% effort in every game and covers more grass than any other player, the fact that he hasn't scored any goal must soon mean he has to be dropped!!

    I take it you were not around for the Carl Leaburn years then !!!
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  • I think Pards has piled too much pressure on poor old Varns. First off we paid far too much for him and Pards bigged him up, he clearly struggled a bit with expectation last season and Pards himself said as much at the end of the season. So how does he counter that, by declaring him to be 'his main man' and therefore piling more pressure on him.

    Very, very likable player, but I'm inclined to agree he might benefit from a couple of weeks out of the spotlight and in the stiffs hopefully re-learning how to finish.

    I'd also advocate giving Mcleod a proper run but I'm not sure he's fit enough yet.
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