Pardew: this morning's paper talk

nigel

All the paper talk this morning is that the only reason he's still in a job is that we can't afford to pay off his 18 month contract.

Has someone from/or close to the board briefed them - or are they just stating the bl**ding obvious ?

If it is the case that the board are admitting they want him out but are conceding that we are stuck with him because of the money aspect ,then that is the worst scenario of all for the club.

He's lost the fans, he's lost the dressing roon and it would now appear he has lost the board - and yet he clings on.

He is, in effect, holding the club to ransom and under such conditions of more or less open civil warfare I am afraid our performances on the pitch are going to get even worse (if that's possible) and relegation becomes a certainty.

If the papers are correct that the board want him out, they have to find a way around the money problem. Can we sack him now and tell him he can have the money in Jan after we sell ZZ?

It's a high price but as so many others have said, relegation to Div One is an even higher price . Surely the board can see that?

WhenIwasLittleBoy

We could hire a hitman .........maybe a cheeper option

bingaddick

Surely this has to be rubbish. Were they to appoint internally, say making Gritty manager, or Kins, that would not cost them much if anything. There is a precedent for this of course. When Lennie left, they couldn't afford a manager and decided to make Curbs and Gritty joint coaches responsible for team affairs.

So of course in can be done. I just have a feeling that they will keep him on, because of the scars of the Dowie scenario.

LargeAddick

get along to the NWK meeting on Thursday night and persude him to do the honourable thing and walk.

charlton_carl

seriously now we the fans can raise this money.

It may be drastic but may need to be done.

I know it has eben said tongue in cheek before but we have saved the club before and may need to do it again.

£800k payoff, how many season ticket holders we got 14000? £60 quid, not that i expext season ticket holders to raise it, just mean it can be done

cfgs

[cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Surely this has to be rubbish. Were they to appoint internally, say making Gritty manager, or Kins, that would not cost them much if anything. There is a precedent for this of course. When Lennie left, they couldn't afford a manager and decided to make Curbs and Gritty joint coaches responsible for team affairs.

So of course in can be done. I just have a feeling that they will keep him on, because of the scars of the Dowie scenario.

Worked well when Dowie got the boot

Thommo

Its a sad situation if people are seriously suggesting the fans raise the money to oust a manager, would fans dip into their pockets to fund a new 800k signing?

We're not Ebbsfleet United (with all due respect to them), lets leave the decisions to the board, I am not a fan of mob justice and in my opinion, if Pardew has made this club a laughing stock the actions of fans could worsen the situation.

WhenIwasLittleBoy

Boycott? Then the club suffers financially.

Go in to the stadium but not take our seats for the first ten minutes as we can all have a pint and then the club, and manager will see the fans frustration. More importantly the club does not suffer directly as it generate the revenue from people taking there seats in the game, with the manager noticing.

The fact that a manager is in the job for him and not the club and its fans is wrong.

Its our club, we were their when we had no ground, no money, and poor to ok palyers, we dont need some guy with a huge eago, giving us load of old pony hin his weekly interviews, killing players morales, running into division one, we want our club back, we want our team just to play good football, it doesnt mean we expect them to win every week,but people sacrice alot in life due to the love of this club and expect something back, in which is only VFM.

Give us back our club we loved as kids and encouraged our kids to support, make us proud again.

Charlton till i die

shirty5

Can the board afford to sack him? The real question is can the Board NOT afford to sack him. The longer he stays, the more in the doo we are.

stonemuse

[cite]Posted By: WhenIwasLittleBoy[/cite]Go in to the stadium but not take our seats for the first ten minutes as we can all have a pint and then the club, and manager will see the fans frustration. More importantly the club does not suffer directly as it generate the revenue from people taking there seats in the game, with the manager noticing.

I have seen this happen at Eintracht Frankfurt in the past. It's quite effective.

LargeAddick

turn your backs on the game for the first ten minutes, that will show our displeasure !!!

Oggy Red

[cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Were they to appoint internally, say making Gritty manager, or Kins, that would not cost them much if anything. There is a precedent for this of course. When Lennie left, they couldn't afford a manager and decided to make Curbs and Gritty joint coaches responsible for team affairs.

When Ken Craggs was sacked, Lennie himself was promoted from within ........

WhenIwasLittleBoy

This is the only way that the manager will understand without the club directly being affected, as well the board can see that if the currnet situation does not change these are the sort of attendances and atmospheres than can expect to see every home game, as we then take our seats, we then voice our protests,for one song and then the remaining 79 minutes we suppport the team to the max regardless of the result so the club and players can see we are with them and s nothing directly againest them it is a situation that we as fans feel strongly about and that we should make a stand in the most orderly and civil manner

BigRedEvil

I actually think the board could find the money if they decide to get rid of him.

bingaddick

[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]When Ken Craggs was sacked, Lennie himself was promoted from within ........

True. Frankly though, if we cannot find the money to pay off a manager then we really are deeply in the do do......

nigel

I think WhenIwasLlittleBoy's suggestion of hiring a hitman is just a teeny little bit OTT.

But could we set him up in some kind of Max Mosley sex dungeon and tip off the News Of The Screws?

Mind you even that might not work as old Max kept his job, didn't he? Plusd he'd probably enjoy it far too much and he's already had enough license at our expense.

May be the only way is to dyanmite him out, after all...

golfaddick

interestingly I wonder what managers contracts say about being incompetent.

You & I would be given our notice & sacked from our jobs if we were as incompetenet as him, yet football managers always have their contracts paid off if they are sacked.......why ???

Do they not have a notice period - I remember when Steve Bruce left Palace (?) he had to work his notice period (3 months , I think) before joining Brum.

anyone know ?

bingaddick

I suspect there will be performance criteria tied to him getting us back to the Prem. The problem is he would argue that the team has been weakened against his advice, and anyway he still has another 18 months to achieve this. I suspect they cannot just remove him for being third from bottom.

Algarveaddick

[cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]All the paper talk this morning is that the only reason he's still in a job is that we can't afford to pay off his 18 month contract.

Has someone from/or close to the board briefed them - or are they just stating the bl**ding obvious ?

If it is the case that the board are admitting they want him out but are conceding that we are stuck with him because of the money aspect ,then that is the worst scenario of all for the club.

He's lost the fans, he's lost the dressing roon and it would now appear he has lost the board - and yet he clings on.

He is, in effect, holding the club to ransom and under such conditions of more or less open civil warfare I am afraid our performances on the pitch are going to get even worse (if that's possible) and relegation becomes a certainty.

If the papers are correct that the board want him out, they have to find a way around the money problem. Can we sack him now and tell him he can have the money in Jan after we sell ZZ?

It's a high price but as so many others have said, relegation to Div One is an even higher price . Surely the board can see that?

If it's in the papers it must be bollocks...

nigel

"If it's in the papers it must be bollocks... "


Isn't that what we all said on here two weeks ago when the Daily Mail, I think it was, reported that the takeover had collapsed?

Couple of hours later it was confirmed!

Algarveaddick

They also said the Arabs were taking over Everton...

Chris_from_Sidcup

Talking of the papers, i can't wait to see what Kelvin Mackenzie has to say this week!

Charlton_Charlie

Am trying not to spend too much time on here this week as am trying to remind myself that there is more to life than CAFC (not a great deal, but it is there if you look hard enough), but the one question I do have is, do we know that he has lost the dressing room, or is it just speculation? For all I (we?) know, the players might love him....sorry if already covered, as said, not been on here for a while....

bingaddick

Unless somebody on here is a player in disguise, I don't think we know for sure. It's just the gutless, rudderless, clueless performances over the last few weeks suggests that he has, or at best they have no faith in what he wants them to do.

nigel

Charlie, I think the suggestion that he has lost the dressing room is based on:

1. Just watching them on the pitch

2. The fact that no player apart from Weaver and Hudson can know from one game to the next whether he's going to start, be on the bench or even in the squad, let alone where or what role they are meant to play...

And you are right about there being more to life than Charlton. There's the St Lawrence ground at Canterbury. But as there's no action there until the season starts next April, that only leaves Charlton for the next six months!

Chris_from_Sidcup

[cite]Posted By: Charlton Charlie[/cite]Am trying not to spend too much time on here this week as am trying to remind myself that there is more to life than CAFC (not a great deal, but it is there if you look hard enough), but the one question I do have is, do we know that he has lost the dressing room, or is it just speculation? For all I (we?) know, the players might love him....sorry if already covered, as said, not been on here for a while....

Maybe Uncle can give us an insight seeing as he's related to Shelvey??
Incidentally why wasn't he involved on saturday? The England tournament ended over a week ago didn't it. Or is he injured now?

ShootersHillGuru

Club must have budgeted for our free season tickets next year. that won`t happen....must free up some cash ?

stonemuse

Would have assumed the free season ticket money would have been based on increased revenues if we went up

WhenIwasLittleBoy

If things dont get any better they wont be able to give tickets away next season, regardless if we go up or down, i for one will not be getting a season ticket for the first time in 30 years if that twonk is still in charge, i would rather pick and choose my games,

adamtheaddick

pards will be gone by xmas, then we will have a new boss (big sam pls!!!) and make a run for the playoffs, i know this will get slated but 3 wins on the bounce and were back in there with a shout the league is so tight this year!! just pards has and will never get us back to back wins..

razil

all we need is the nod that the club want him out and money is the reason, and the fans could quite easily make life very difficult for pards. problem is these 'reporters' are probably just reading this site to get their articles.

:)