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One question i have.....

edited October 2008 in General Charlton
Only one Charlton name has consistently been cropping up with all speculation linked to the proposed takeover, Richard Murray.

Now Richard is Chairman of the football club, Derek Chappell Chairman of the PLC.

Surely all this would be driven under the PLC banner ?

We seem as supporters to have a loyalty and affinity to Richard that has been built up over time, even as supporters forgiving him past mistakes more easily than some fellow board members did.

If, and its a big if, this for some reason or another fails to come off, you have to wonder what future the structure of our football club and PLC boards will take. Because whatever happens now, i cannot see the current status quo continuing.
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  • Ity is all done under the PLC banner, the supporters Director has already said the Football board had no idea, if it falls through then I would suspect Richard Murray and the rest of the PLC board will carry on until another buyer or investor comes along.
    I have a sneaking feeling it will happen despite the West Ham thing in the Guardian.
  • thats alway the trouble when you have in affect two boards, Charlton PLC would and should be the ones handling any deals, the only reason i can think off is that chappel is working with the arabs behind the scenes and Richard Murray is the 'Public Face' of the talks, Mr Chappel has never been front row until hes appearence at bromley comming soon. the other problem is by having so many directors it could be a long and drawn out process to buy there shares, if this does happen do you think we will be taken off the stockmarket and lose the PLC status?
  • If Zabeel buy a high enough percentage then yes we would be taken off any stock market, and fans I think who have shares may be obliged to sell them if Zabeel gain total control
  • is it like when those horse racing blokes tried to buy man utd? they have to get a certain amount before they can own the club out right or make everyone else sell theres?
  • If they reach the magic mark, 96% I think, you have to sell to them by law
  • Yes thats how it works
  • it was a joint statement put out by Chappell and Murray
  • Murray is the power behind and indeed in front of any throne I reckon
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]Murray is the power behind and indeed in front of any throne I reckon

    ps anyone know of a good carpet fitter in the SE10 area?

    couldn't resist could you Razil?
  • Chappell is the Chairman of the PLC ..... but Richard Murray remains a director of the PLC, as well as Chairman of the club itself.

    Therefore in a perfect position to negotiate.
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  • Do tell what law is it that wil make me sell my shares if i dont want to ? shall i nail the doors shut in case the Mets finest come in without knocking ? should i expect helicopters and cops in fast cars to be on the door step?
  • GH

    It is just what I heard in the past it basically occurs mostly in sports or hostile takeovers, if you do not sell then the shares are worthless (no change there then)
  • I think tiles are more appropriate, but for carpets I know a man who can..
  • edited October 2008
    [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]Do tell what law is it that wil make me sell my shares if i dont want to ? shall i nail the doors shut in case the Mets finest come in without knocking ? should i expect helicopters and cops in fast cars to be on the door step?

    its a compulsory whatsit by the thingmy when they own over so many whatsists 80% I think, but they may not necessarily go that
    far, all it really means is they can operate with less openess and control the shares, oh and of course when they invest it makes other people rich so you can them wanting all the shares I guess - Abramovich did it with Chelsea.

    Clear?
  • [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]Do tell what law is it that wil make me sell my shares if i dont want to ? shall i nail the doors shut in case the Mets finest come in without knocking ? should i expect helicopters and cops in fast cars to be on the door step?


    Easiest way to keep hold GH, is to stump up a few billion quid and outbid the buggers!!!!
  • agreed they may make an offer i might say thanks a bundle but NO and they take 99.9% of the other shares leaving mine worthless in dosh terms but thing is they are mine aint they !! of course everything has a price in the real World., but it would be a very silly offer and im not that desperate to sell a memory .
  • they can probably just invalidate yours mate, I have one as well.
  • edited October 2008
    [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]agreed they may make an offer i might say thanks a bundle but NO and they take 99.9% of the other shares leaving mine worthless in dosh terms but thing is they are mine aint they !! of course everything has a price in the real World., but it would be a very silly offer and im not that desperate to sell a memory .

    GH, my shares were jointly purchased by me, my sis and my Dad, who is no longer with us. Like you I wouldn't want that peice of our family history to evaporate. The situation could dictate that it may be inevitable, but unlike the paper, the memory is priceless and will remain so regardless of what they do with the shares.
  • LOL no they cant raz its mine belongs to me dont really give a f**k what they try to do with it i have the certificate its mine. Thousands brought em mate im sure many feel like me. Ill hang on to the cert as said above.
  • Ah what it would be to live in GH land..


    :D
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  • [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]LOL no they cant raz its mine belongs to me dont really give a f**k what they try to do with it i have the certificate its mine. Thousands brought em mate im sure many feel like me. Ill hang on to the cert as said above.

    You're right, they can't take your certificate, they can however make it completely meaningless as a certificate.
  • Re AFKA's original question, what has struck me is that it's only Richard Murray who has been mentioned by name as potentially staying on. So if the takeover goes through, will all the other PLC directors be out of the picture? What happens to the football club board? What happens to Chappell? What happens to Waggott? I guess some of the latter might still be up to Richard Murray to decide, but this time he can make decisions based on the abilities of the people as managers/ executives, rather than how much money they have to invest in the club. Could be interesting times all round?
  • They have to get 90% to force a full acquisition.
  • One thing puzzles me in this saga and that is why did Charlton feel the need to go public on Friday. If it was a legal requirement of a proposed takeover then that is fine, however if it wasn’t a legal requirement all the club has done is advise every other club in England that there are a group of rich Arabs looking to buy a club. You can be sure that clubs like Portsmouth, West Ham and probably another dozen have let it be known to Zabeel that they are worth considering.

    If it wasn't a legal requirement we should have kept until it was signed, sealed and delivered.
  • Most of the speculation has been on forums I think! When this was announced the statements were attributed to both Murray and Chappel. I think there was just one report that referred to Murray staying on in some capacity??

    If true, then the fact he owns a quarter of the shares is probably a factor!

    Derek Chappell and others could well stay on but presumably we have to get through due diligence before (if) those sort of things can be considered.
  • [cite]Posted By: Billericay Dickie[/cite]One thing puzzles me in this saga and that is why did Charlton feel the need to go public on Friday. If it was a legal requirement of a proposed takeover then that is fine, however if it wasn’t a legal requirement all the club has done is advise every other club in England that there are a group of rich Arabs looking to buy a club. You can be sure that clubs like Portsmouth, West Ham and probably another dozen have let it be known to Zabeel that they are worth considering.

    If it wasn't a legal requirement we should have kept until it was signed, sealed and delivered.

    Maybe someone got rumour of it, so they pre-empted it with a statement? Although it's not all signed and sealed, the negotiations are clearly well advanced, and had no doubt been going on quietly for some time. I'd imagine due diligence would also need to involve checks with various other third parties, so it would be very difficult to keep it all quiet during this phase. Look at things like the takeover of S&N by Heineken/ Carlsberg, or even the LTSB and HBOS one - there always seems to be a relatively lengthy period from first announcement to the closure of the deal.
  • I get the feeling either there was a reason for having to announce it, or they wanted to before speculation started appearing. They've did quite well to keep it quiet until the announcement. Don't remember seeing any speculation on it until it was announced.
  • [cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]Re AFKA's original question, what has struck me is that it's only Richard Murray who has been mentioned by name as potentially staying on. So if the takeover goes through, will all the other PLC directors be out of the picture? What happens to the football club board? What happens to Chappell? What happens to Waggott? I guess some of the latter might still be up to Richard Murray to decide, but this time he can make decisions based on the abilities of the people as managers/ executives, rather than how much money they have to invest in the club. Could be interesting times all round?

    Richard Murray is both synominous with the Club's success and (together with other family members) the principle shareholder of the Club. It therefore makes sense from both a PR and good business practice viewpoint to retain his expertise.

    Steve Waggott is an employee rather than a director so would presumably continue in his present role under new ownership if it happens.

    Derek Chapple's role is more problematic but in the short term I would have thought that the prospective new owners would want continuity so he could well stay on too.
  • Its note the f**kin piece of paper it wot it means----- why it was brought----- who i brought them with----how can anyone take it away or make it meaningless ?
  • they can't take it away or make it meaningless to you, but it can be made meaningless in its tradeability, and in turn, financial worth.
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