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Football bans lifted..... Happy Days!

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edited October 2008 in General Charlton
Taken from Bexley Times;


Football fans’ match bans are lifted following jail spell

09 October 2008
THREE Charlton Athletic football fans will be allowed to go and see their team play again, after top judges lifted their six-year match bans today.

Joseph Geodhart, 22, of Rembrandt Road, Lewisham; Stephen George Lyons, 51, of Bayliss Avenue, Thamesmead and Daniel Stephen Boylett, 27, of Rochester Way, Eltham, all had their football banning orders quashed at London's Criminal Appeal Court on Monday.

The trio had admitted their involvement in a violent clash between Charlton and Northampton Town fans following an FA Cup match in January 2006.

The two teams had not played each other - there had been several matches in London that day - but a fight broke out in Caledonian Road, near King's Cross station, as assorted groups of fans were massing around the area, some of them waiting for trains.

The three Charlton supporters all admitted violent disorder at the Inner London Crown Court in July 2007 and were sentenced to 12 months behind bars - as well as being banned from attending any football matches for the next six years.

Recorder Peter Herbert, sentencing, said at the time that he deemed the offence 'to be fuelled by drink, football-related and pre-planned' and that neither 'society nor football deserved to witness such violence'.

But Mr Justice Openshaw, sitting with Lord Justice Dyson and Mr Justice Henriques ruled it was "inevitable" the banning orders must be quashed in the light of an Appeal Court ruling earlier this year in relation to two Northampton Town fans.

At that hearing, Lord Justice Moore-Bick had ruled the fight had "nothing to do with the football match that the people had previously attended" and, as the violence was not "football related", the banning orders were inapproprite.
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I suggest that if the Football element had not been at the center of the police's thoughts, they wouldnt have waited 8 months untill they got peoples names and address's and a fine would have been the punnisment rather than the prison terms handed out. Or maybe they wouldnt have waisted their time and money for a crime that didnt have any one pressing charges?

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  • edited October 2008
    What is a 51 year old man doing getting involved in a street fight? Pathetic.
  • Chirpy ---- , he got involved after his son was thumped.Alhough its a slight over simplification that was the real reason, and pleaded guilty as was on CCTV , guilly means very very little mitigation can be broght into court. 12 months inside.
  • good news
  • edited October 2008
    ahhh that day, so many memories, when it all was kicking off around us as we were walking off the train, tavern finally grew the balls to ask me out!!

    hahaha. Its fairly safe to say he wont be thanking me for that one.
  • [cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]ahhh that day, so many memories, when it all was kicking off around us as we were walking off the train, tavern finally grew the balls to ask me out!!

    hahaha. he wont thank me for that one.

    lol
  • Excellent news. The Northampton lads had theres lifted a fair few months ago. See you at the weekend SE9.
  • Good news indeed. You know its really hard to come to terms that if a fight is deemed football related, they slap someone straight into clink...with or without evidence that its pre-planned. So if youre not a "lad" you get caught up in a ruck...what are you supposed to do...take a kicking? All seems somewhat draconian to me and a sledge hammer to smash a nut syndrome....
  • It was non football related and was certainly not planned, the fact is that the said three were not the ones who did start the trouble and were simply defending themselves, it has to be said there are always two sides to a story but it always seens that we are prepared to listen the prosicution and believe them.
  • Exactly. Which is why jumping to conclusions about this without giving it any thought or knowing any of the details is plainly very stupid.

    These guys are like any others who have been caught up in a fight. Difference is they were football fans and therefore had the book thrown at them.

    Pleased to see you back guys.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Charlton Dan[/cite]Exactly. Which is why jumping to conclusions about this without giving it any thought or knowing any of the details is plainly very stupid.

    These guys are like any others who have been caught up in a fight. Difference is they were football fans and therefore had the book thrown at them.

    Pleased to see you back guys.[/quote]


    Thats twice i agreed with you today
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  • as above - for a bit of a scrap outside a bar you get an £80 fine... if you are on your way back from twickenham they wouldn't ban you for six years from that would they?

    Go luck to all three.
  • Glad they are back, known one of them since he was a kid (son of one of my best mates) and this was a ridiculous ban based on the circumstances
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