not my opinion, but football is about different opinions.
how long will it take before fans start to questioning the board?
i for one recognise the good relationship between the board and curbs, and perhaps the board should have realised that tweeking, and not drastic change is what brought us forward, ie appointing curbs/gritt, then curbs when it wasn’t going to plan.
with the appointment (and sacking) of dowie, what will they (and us) think if after 24 games, we only have 16 points? will reed be on his way?
personally, (and with the benefit of hindsight) i think we should have let curbs have a say on his succesor, and seeing as he still had a year left, kept him involved as an advisor/director of football.
no matter what people thought of the football the last 2 years, surely they can’t now doubt curbs’ ability both tactically and getting players from lower league that are ‘charlton type’ players.
a lot of ifs, buts, maybes and questions.
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Our board is one of the best. Yeah they've made a mistake, as some think me included, but for anyone to come out with that crap is just nonsense.
just making the point that there will be some fans (like the dowie out brigade at chesterfield) that might take that view.
the trouble is, our percentage of committed fans (and where i say committed, i mean people like me and you, where supporting Charlton isn't just something you do every other week, it plays a part in every day of your life) is a lot smaller than other clubs. Now we discuss the club every day, we know most of the ins and outs, and can form a balanced opinion of the rights and wrongs of the club.
Others don't though. Those that don't know Charlton as well as me and you WILL be questioning the board to the highest degree. We have a support that like other clubs, always has to have a scapegoat, and for the last ten years its always been someone on the pitch. But it will turn eventually.
Without knowing the full facts, i'm trying not to be too judgement on the power of the club (ie. Murray and Varney). But somewhere along the line, whether it was in May or last week, they have got something badly wrong. Only time will tell if they recover the situation, and i hope they get given the opportunity to do so. But they will i'm sure not be put up on such a pedastal for a while.
so i think the "board" comments should be amended to read "Varney and Murray"
The real power of the club however lies completely in the hands of them two.
Although Richard Murray does hold the majority of the executive power at the Club, I'm sure he would not make any major decisions without consulting the other large shareholders, i.e. Bob Whitehand, Martin Simons, David Sumners, Gideon Franklin and Michael Stevens; unless they'd given Murray their proxy.
People like David White and David Hughes also have shareholdings in the millions.
My missus reads this board WSS.
I have 25.
It's like those late-night quiz games:
"25"
How many is the number above?
Whatever you answer it is wrong...
i think he is getting a hell of a lot of stick from all angles. anyone given the opportunity to manage in the prem when previously hadn't would be mad to pass the chance. if this was his only chance and he turned it down, he would always be asking himself 'i wonder what would have happened if......?'
i think we can all see he is not a no.1, but personally i like to remember the days when he was a coach with curbs.
here lies the questioning of the board. is (as stated by rm) les reeds appointment as 1st team manager been for the good of charlton athletic fc?
Giving Reed a 3 year deal now was not a good move in my opinion.
Its almost impossible to do now but in an ideal world I would like to see Pardew appointed on a deal whereby he earns say £500k for keeping us up. Robbo and Kins as his assistants and Lesley given another role in the structure, director of football maybe??
It would be harsh on Lesley but its gotta be done.
Agreed, he should have been appointed until the end of the season, clearly he hasn't got it in terms of motivating players. By giving him a three year deal sacking him will cost us money we can't afford/would be better spent on new players or a new manager.
Bring in Pardew, give him a contract until July and then review the situation.
Did he want it in the summer after Curbs left?
If he did, then he obviously wasn't thought suitable, and if he didn't then why was he suddenly considered the right man to do it just a few months down the line?
There's a time and a place to give someone their first taste of being head coach/manager, and it isn't 10 or so games into a Premiership relegation battle.
The board- led by Richard Murray appointed Iain Dowie- it didn't work out so he was sacked- There was no-one better available so they "promoted" Reed. "Continuity" being the motivation.
What i hope is that they are actively ( but quietly) looking for a replacement with an agreement that Reed moves over when the new man is unveiled.
I hope this is the case because i genuinely believe we haven't got a chance of staying up with Reed in charge.
It's far too early to be having a go at him. The damage was done by his predecessor.
That being the case why have the performances got worse since Dowie left?
Sorry but you are being naive in the extreme if you honestly think that Dowie is the cause of all our problems.
they need to put their hands up and admit that they have all gone wibble!
it has been a long 4 weeks, and my opinions of the board have changed since then.