Am seriously thinking about getting my first season ticket. The problem is I live near Manchester and usually go to the North/Midlands away games. What with the credit crunch and all that I thought I would do my bit to help the club. I will only be able to go to about 50% of home games and I wondered if there was anybody that I could pass my ticket to for the games I coudn't attend?
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3. Season tickets are not transferable to supporters of the visiting team and any season ticket holder who facilitates the admission of such a person to a designated home area is liable to have their season ticket cancelled without compensation......
So doesn't actually say Charlton fans but does say not away fans
Mmmmmmmm that's as clear as mud aint it?
Wouldn't stand up in a court of law of course re the person you 'give' it to.
Not that it would ever be likely to get to that point but srictly in law you could drive a coach and horses through that particular instruction.
How is it that not clear?
you can give it(but not sell it) as a gift to anyone who doesn't support the opposition. You just said it yourself.
If you buy a ST you accept the conditions so yes I'd guess it would stand up in law.
Of course the club doesn't always know if fans pass on or sell STs but if someone is selling them outside Charlton station or an away fan misbehaves then they have an option to act.
Please let the season start so we can stop this "let's pick holes in everything the club does" nonsense.
How can anyone 'prove' that you knew oneway or the other in a particular instance whether someone was a fan of the opposition? It's daft but done with quite a clear purpose of course to 'discourage' just that....and rightly so, I'm just pointing out that in law I doubt very much that it would stand up because you could do something in complete innocence or be tricked by a third party.
How in gods name am I picking on the club in any way shape or form!
I would have thought it would stand up in a court of law, if someone passed their ST on to an opposition fan, who during the match stood up and celebrated an opposition goal and subsequently was ejected, whilst the "owner" of the ST had their ST revoked, without compensation. they subsequently take the club to court, the club cite that they passed their ST to someone who obviously supported the opposition and brought forward 19,000 witnesses.
I am sure that the club don't mind if someone supports the opposition but sits quietly on their hands unidentified during the match, when I had two ST's often brought opposition supporting friends with me to the matches, but clearly instructed them to keep their mouths shut if their team scored as I would not step in to save their lives and I did ot want to loose my ST.
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Why is this "daft"?
If you lend your ST to a fan of a team we are playing and that fan then causes some trouble don't you think that the club should be within their rights to take your ST away? Let's say we are playing Palace and the guy next to you lends his ticket to a Palace fan who causes some aggro, wouldn't you then be wanting the club to do something about it? By withdrawing the ST the club is ensuring that it doesn't happen again, at least with that ST.
Regarding the clause in the ST that they have the right to suspend your ST - if they didn't put that clause in they'd have nothing to justify any such action...
;o)
"what if......" and "say you did so and so......" :-)
I think the club does need more fans going to northern away games though!
I STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET!
Postman just been - still no ticket. Urgent call to box office coming up at lunch!
There is no legal issue with it, at all. If you were to lend your ticket - knowingly or otherwise - to an opposition fan, then you're liable to lose it. Whether you could prove whether or not you knew the person was a supporter of said team, or not is neither here nor there. You lend your ticket to someone, then you are, to an extent, responsible for thier behaviour. The club would be within thier rights to confiscate and the courts wouldn't have any sympathy as this would be a very clear breach of conditions. The condition is there for a good reason, is anyone seriously contesting this?
It says an opposition supporter...but what if he's not an oppo supporter but still causes trouble or even a neutral supporter who jumps up and applauds an opposition goal.....to put everyone out of their misery let's leave it at that shall we.....Naturaly the clubs 'obviously' have to at least convey that you shouldn't 'knowingly' let an oppo fan have the ticket....and rightly so,that's not my argument, nevertheless I don't think it's 'perfectly clear' in ALL possible scenarios but you and a few others do....and I think in law you'd have a strong case in quite a few instances if a club took your ticket.
In which case, the daft law needs an additional clause
What sort of treats, savoury or sweet? Would the hamper have its own ST? What would constitute a surrounding seat?
Sounds like a legal minefield to me.
''Posted ages ago'' they said. Lost in the post - typical!
Now got to pick up a duplicate before the game Saturday.
They're better not be a postman sitting in my seat on Saturday!!!!
In the West Stand a blanket and a flask would be more appropriate !