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The Plymouth Goal Keeper

GoonerhaterGoonerhater
edited June 2008 in Other Football and Sports
He has been charged today with two counts of death by dangerous driving. one count of driving while drunl and 1 count of not having any insurance.


drunk !!!!!
no insurance how the hell does any pro footballer justify not having insurance ? How does the club let him drive with no insurance.


The two dead kids dad is in hospital with broken neck and back.
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    SoundAsa£SoundAsa£
    Absolute tragedy of the first order and I can well understand your emotive feelings GH but we really mustn't blame Plymouth Argyle you know, it's nothing to do with them.
    If guilty, this lad has also ruined his own life too, a long prison term awaits him.
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    GoonerhaterGoonerhater
    agree mate no blame re the accident and deaths to PA but i just dont understand how these days a top earning guy and a valuable comodity to PAFC has no car insurance and is driving about ?
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    Stu_of_KunmingStu_of_Kunming
    [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]agree mate no blame re the accident and deaths to PA but i just dont understand how these days a top earning guy and a valuable comodity to PAFC has no car insurance and is driving about ?

    Has your boss ever asked for if your car is insured? I know mine hasnt.
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    LenGloverLenGlover
    Plenty of scum drive around uninsured.

    No money in it though when they are nicked so the OB don't give a toss.

    PC considerations come into play too as many of them are foreign.
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    IdleHansIdleHans
    anyone hits my car and turns out to be uninsured, I'll set theirs alight on the spot. For the sake of other road users, obviously.
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    ISawLeaburnScoreISawLeaburnScore
    It wasn't his car apparently, he borrowed someone else's so he had no insurance. He will get the book thrown at him, game over and a lifetime of regret.

    A horrific accident and thoughts have to be with the poor Mother and injured Father. What a huge loss.
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    bingaddickbingaddick
    edited June 2008
    Damage and Injury caused by uninsured drivers is covered under agreements with all motor insurers in the UK and administered by the Motor Insurers Bureau. We all suffer because what happens is that all insurers build the costs of these claims in the premiums we pay the extra and the scumbags get away with it.

    Uninsured vehicles should be empounded and then sold off by the state and distributed to all motor insurers, thereby helping to defray the costs of motor insurance.
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    Kap10Kap10
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]agree mate no blame re the accident and deaths to PA but i just dont understand how these days a top earning guy and a valuable comodity to PAFC has no car insurance and is driving about ?

    Has your boss ever asked for if your car is insured? I know mine hasnt.

    I use my own car for occaisional business mileage and was asked to show them my insurance, MOT and driving Licence.


    [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]

    PC considerations come into play too as many of them are foreign.

    Yeah lets blame it on the foreigners.English bloke uninsured, drunk causes death of two kids, must be an angle to blame foreigners.
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    Kap10Kap10
    [cite]Posted By: Kap10[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]agree mate no blame re the accident and deaths to PA but i just dont understand how these days a top earning guy and a valuable comodity to PAFC has no car insurance and is driving about ?

    Has your boss ever asked for if your car is insured? I know mine hasnt.

    I use my own car for occaisional business mileage and was asked to show them my insurance, MOT and driving Licence.


    [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]

    PC considerations come into play too as many of them are foreign.

    Yeah lets blame it on the foreigners.English bloke uninsured, drunk causes death of two kids, must be an angle to blame foreigners. What about all the chav's driving about without insurance!!!!!!!!!!
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    SaladSalad
    edited June 2008
    This is a tragedy and my sympathy goes out to the family, let's hope the Dad makes a good recovery.
    Sadly deaths on our roads by drunk or speeding drivers is a daily occurrence.
    [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]Plenty of scum drive around uninsured. No money in it though when they are nicked so the OB don't give a toss. PC considerations come into play too as many of them are foreign.
    It is scanadalous that people drive around uninsured, but their nationality is irrelevant. I think you have been listening to UKIP for too long Len if you think political correctness has anything to do with deaths on our roads!

    (I have twice had uninsured people crash into me - one was blatantly English and one was blatantly foreign - he was French but I was in France!)
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    LenGloverLenGlover
    edited June 2008
    I'm not saying English people don't drive without insurance but foreigners do too and frequently are not pursued

    http://www.police999.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1735%3Aperil-from-the-east-brings-new-threat-to-our-roads&Itemid=59&6d664088abc008d417440c56764d2e5c=408b88698a83d7cd84109b9638bfa771


    and this

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2106977.ece

    and this

    http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news?articleid=3075033

    That was my point.
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    ShootersHillGuruShootersHillGuru
    Tragedy for sure. With the two dead lads no amount of insurance money can repair that loss.
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    LenGloverLenGlover
    edited June 2008
    [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Tragedy for sure. With the two dead lads no amount of insurance money can repair that loss.

    Agreed.

    However if the father survives he could be paralysed and consequently need expensive specialist help which insurance money could pay for.
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    SaladSalad
    Len - no doubt that foreigners are amongst those who drink drive etc. - indeed disproportionally so where their countries of origin are a long way behind ours in their cultural attitude to it but there is no political correctness involved in how and whether they are punished.
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    TELTEL
    How sad for the family of the two kids.
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    Chirpy RedChirpy Red
    Insurance is a scam.

    Drunk Drivers are scum.
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    CarterCarter
    Have a look at the Lee Hughes thread for those who are easy going on this sort of thing and those who think persons in positions liker him and thias fella deserve stringing up
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    StanmoreAddickStanmoreAddick
    RIP the boys and lets hope the Father pulls through without terrible long term injuries.

    This young man has ruined a families life and his own- God knows how the mother/ wife is..

    It has nothing at all to do with football...
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    AFKABartramAFKABartram
    As its an ongoing case, lets leave at that for now. RIP
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    DA9DA9
    The really ironic thing is that they showed him this morning in a video with Devon police in a campaign showing how using a mobile phone whilst driving was dangerous, basically him on a mobile in goal trying to save shots.

    Horrific for the family, no sympathy for McCormack, throw the book at him.
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    LargeAddickLargeAddick
    managed to get bail I see.
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    leftbehindleftbehind
    Thoughts are with the family

    hope he goes down for a very long time
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    LedgeLedge
    didn't even have the bollox to show his face coming out of court.
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    Mr-InvisibleMr-Invisible
    terrible news. He'll prob serve couple years but he'll have to live with that for the rest of his life
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    StanmoreAddickStanmoreAddick
    [cite]Posted By: Ledge[/cite]didn't even have the bollox to show his face coming out of court.

    To be fair Arf, what ever he does now is going to be wrong- if he'd shown his face he'd have been accused of showing no remorse or something similar.

    If he's got a quarter of a brain he must be in pieces...

    In no way am i sticking up for him and what he did though.......
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    LedgeLedge
    yeah fair enough.

    by all accounts he was in bits in the court room.
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    DA9DA9
    [cite]Posted By: StanmoreAddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Ledge[/cite]didn't even have the bollox to show his face coming out of court.

    To be fair Arf, what ever he does now is going to be wrong- if he'd shown his face he'd have been accused of showing no remorse or something similar.

    If he's got a quarter of a brain he must be in pieces...

    In no way am i sticking up for him and what he did though.......

    I would suggest that driving along the M6 early on a Saturday morning with no insurance, no licence and pissed indicates that he does indeed have only a quarter of a brain, if any at all.
    I hope he was in pieces and it weighs heavy on him, lets remember, this was no mere accident that can happen to anyone with a bit of bad judgement, all of the above he was arrested for, he was a death waiting to happen and he did this to himself, he drove knowing he was not insured or had a licence, and I assume he drove knowing he was either over the limit or close to it. No sympathy for the prat.
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    LargeAddickLargeAddick
    I've no sympathy but no where have I read that he didn't have a licence. Also the no insurance is not because he is a high paid fottballer who couldn't be bothered to sort out his car insurance but because he borrowed a car and didn't realise he wasn't insured to drive it. Against the law yes but a mistake rather than a outright abuse of the law. The being pissed though is absolutely unforgivable.
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    AFKABartramAFKABartram
    Lets not speculate too much, particularly as no one knows the facts and there is a case to be held.

    On one point though, i'm sure 95% of the people on here have driven a car at least once on a sat / sun morning which despite feeling fine, if breathalised would fail from the night before's session. I know i have.
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    LedgeLedge
    probably right there AFKA.

    Long time ago mind.

    Time to dive bomb this one then
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