is the rumour circulating on CPFC forums at the moment, and one others may of heard.
Rumoured price is around £500k - £750k.
I am loathe to jepeodising the deal, so all i would say to Neil Warnock if you are reading is you have got yourself one hell of a deal there, and the quicker you sign and seal it the better it will be for everyone, thank you very much :-)
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But then one of my favourite players was Matt Svensson (sp?)
I don't dislike him, i admire his attitude, and won't slag a player who gives his all.
But i think he is limited, and those limitations are painfully exposed against a striker with any form of movement, and cost us on more than a number of occassions last season.
He is an average Championship centre half at best, and a position i think we really need to improve on.
Whole hearted, brave and gives his all. Cares and shows it. Beggining of the season was absolute rubbish and consigned to the reserves, improved greatly when finally recalled. Good in air, slow and prone to grabbing forwards, incurring freekicks around the box. Also a player that is always stretching to make challenges as he is caught out by movement.
And I like him as a player but out of the first eleven now we have Hudson he would be the eleventh named.
positives
he is committed, will always give his all, has a bit of a leader mentality, admired for playing above himself, disribution not fantastic but not noticeably poor
negatives
he is not dominent in the air, can be dragged out of position, particularly wide, has poor movement, is slow to turn and can easily get caught the wrong side of the player
Don't know much about Hudson, but for me Paddy was found wanting a lot more than he was found impressing.
Agreed
I guess that we have to accept that by and large we can only attract poorer players now we are a mid table Championship club.
Yup, makes sense. Although would rather have both.
Same player at home to Colchester - abysmal.
Sadly i feel the player we saw against Colchester featured more often than the one at Palace.
Having recently watched the 4-3 Villa game, look at the contribution of every Charlton fans favourite home grown defender Richard Rufus.
1. First Villa Goal - passed his clearance straight to Barry
2. Second Villa Goal - Failed to track the run of Joachim
3. Third Villa Goal - failed to challenge the player who laid on the goal for Joachim
He made other blunders that day.
The point is all defenders make mistakes. Paddy made some in his first appearance at Stoke, he made one or two others during the later part of the season. In between times when he got back into the team, he was inspirational at times and on more than one occasion was by far our best defender. We failed to have a settled defence pretty much the whole season and he played with at least three partners. We all see things differently but I think he was one of our better performers last season. It may be that Hudson is better and we can't keep them all. If it was down to me I'd sell Fortune rather than Paddy.
Mentioning Rufus as a defence to McCarthy is a joke to be honest.
Fortune has proved he can play at Prem level in the past alongside a decent defender; McCarthy would still get taken to the cleaners even along side a quality defender.
If Palace are mug enough to buy him even at half the fee mentioned we should snatch it.
Stockport at home, his every touch was booed untill he scored the winner. But by end of the season, his commitment was second to none.
Without fail when that whistle was blown, eight players would rush for the tunnel. Matty, Weaver and Paddy would always applaud the fans in all stands.
That would be a shame to lose I think. We're always on here talking about how we hate players like thomas who look like there being forced to play in front of us.
It's good and essential to have players like paddy at the club that respect us as much as we respect them.
I think we've learnt what players who aren't 100% commited to a team can do to a season.
I'd drive Fortune anywhere he wanted, but the unfortunate fact is we won't get as much for him
I think you got the point though didn't you? It wasn't a pop at Rufus who I greatly admired, the point was that good defenders make mistakes. I don't know whether you went to most games last season but some of our most impressive defensive displays occured when Paddy played? The Palace games, home and away for example. I ain't saying he's the best defender in the world, I just think he's far better than you and others give him credit for.
Paddy is a reasonable centre half in the Championship but no more than that. Kevin Lisbie cruelly exposed his limitations as does any striker with a little bit of pace and skill.
Defenders make mistakes and Fortune has made a few but overall he is the best centre half we've got and I include Magic in that.
I must confess that was one of the few games I didn't see to be honest. I have always been a Fortune supporter upto this season when I felt he just didn't have the desire any more. Maybe he's been mucked about too many times but I just feel, like Lisbie, he needs to get away.
Back to Paddy, well I won't cry if he goes, I just like the cut of his jib. We need skillful players but we need them to be passionate/committed. Maybe he's the latter but not the former.
Must be kicking himself, not going to Stoke.
Regarding Rufus I didn’t take it that you were having a pop at him.
Yes I did get the point you were trying to make, I just don't see the relevance of the comparison.
Good players do make the odd mistake and have the odd bad game but I don’t consider McCarthy a good player and the fact is, he makes more mistakes than a good player would over a season. Basically he is average and been found out at this level.
We all have different opinions on players as proven between us, no problem.
However from past experience I know that average players only provide mediocre seasons. If we are to have a chance to go up we need to stop leaking goals as we did this season.
Go back to the middle of December when Fortune got suspended and McCarthy came back in to the team and you will see that we only had 4 clean sheets in 27 games running to the end of the season. Prior to that for November we had 4 clean sheets on the trot.
I am not suggesting that McCarthy is solely to blame it is the defence as a whole including midfield cover but Centre Half’s are pivotal. My guess is that Pardew also see’s that the defence is not good enough hence he has signed another CH.
Whether Pardew agrees with mine or your assessment of McCarthy remains to be seen, but it is only his opinion that matters at the end of the day, I believe his job is on the line on this one.
Can someone please explain to me how to copy the quote down as some of you have. Thanks