this team is the most spineless charlton team for a long time or just simply crud? my girlfreind informed me that skysports did not mention us once after the twenty minute mark.he has to go.
Agreed....there isn't much heart apart from an ageing Matt Holland. McCarthy looks like he cares but apart from that can't think of too many left out there.
this thread will be overided soon,with pro pardews soon,harping on about footballs fun and enjoy the moment,its not fucking fun at all,get the palace div out!
Should be dumped and never seen again in a red shirt in SE7.
Keep Weaver and the two keepers, Basey and Crabman, Moo2, Sam, Ambrose, Thomas, Varney, Iwelumo, Zheng and all the decent kids coming through, out the rest of them.
First time I have ever booed the team during the match today, and I have seen some rubbish over the years.
I'm sorry but if thats who you'd get rid of and keep I'm glad you're not in charge. For me the first player Id be looking to sell is ZZ so we stop thinking he's better than he is and get the right sort of player in the middle of the park.
[cite]Posted By: blackheathaddick[/cite]I'm sorry but if thats who you'd get rid of and keep I'm glad you're not in charge. For me the first player Id be looking to sell is ZZ so we stop thinking he's better than he is and get the right sort of player in the middle of the park.
ZZ would be the first player out of that whole squad you'd get rid of? Unbelievable.....guess the fact that he is likely to be voted player of the year doesn't amount to much. If he hadn't played as regularly as he has, we'd be in a much worse state, I'd be looking at the rest of the midfield before him. Holland great character runs his doo-dads off but doesn't offer any ability, Ambrose just hasn't put himself out enough, Thomas total waster, Sam decent not sure he's got enough ability, Semedo, very basic player. Still get rid of ZZ should be easy there will be plenty of Premier league clubs sniffing around.
Zheng hasnt played well since Palace but he is class when he wants to be, if you cant see that then we'll have to beg to differ.
I sat with head in hands when 'Super Al' (yes some people did sing that today) brought Semedo on with 15 to go and needing a result, Im sure he did that to take the piss out of us.
has not played well since palace? thats not class then is it,you have a player these days for a couple of seasons and he has not played well since early feb,great!
WBA are not the most physicalside and they are top so you dont need to be but you must have better plans than we have, how many times have I read the team long balled up to big Chris with ice on and we are the footballing side.
I stand by my comment about ZZ. Even when he was "apparently" playing well I couldnt see it. Im glad there are people who think he is great. Hopefully one of them will have a large chequebook and take him off us so we can get a centre midfielder that commands. He might work hard. Maybe. But I really cant think of anything other than his reasonable goal return for a midfielder in the championship that makes him stand above anyone else. I voted Madjid for my player of the year (I wouldve voted Reid) . Next season I cant think of anyone else I'd definetly pick in my starting 11.
I just don't think the team has any redeeming features - Over the last 30 years there has always been a few players in the team you cared about performed better than expected -
Flash and Killer Johnny H P Williams P Mortimer and on and on there were 1 - 2 or more we cared about - there are none in this bunch really - Powell excepted and I don't care for the manager either....
(Basey/Wagstaff/etc may bring this back on the playing side)
I'd keep Gray I think he'll come good. Lita's not ours anyway neither is Cook who I wouldn't touvch with a bargepole - absolute cack. As for Halford don't get me started on him.
ZZ is a class player. However his one weakness is being physically lightweight in a physical division and he has faded of late because of that combined with playing far more games than he has been used to. Not to mention travelling to wherever with China.
Other than his physical presence there are no weaknesses in his game and some considerable strengths. He needs to be playing alongside a more physically robust player which, God bless him, Matty Holland isn't and neither was Reid.
ZZ is our one true Premiership class player. Others have the potential to become so and Ambrose and Thomas J can OCCASIONALLY play at that level.
I really hope we can hang on to ZZ and get the right type of player alongside him.
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nolly i thought you said Souness now he would kick them up the harris.
I would honestly barely keep a third of that side that started today.
Halford
Thatcher
McCarthy
Boughera
Semedo
Cook
Gray
Lita
Should be dumped and never seen again in a red shirt in SE7.
Keep Weaver and the two keepers, Basey and Crabman, Moo2, Sam, Ambrose, Thomas, Varney, Iwelumo, Zheng and all the decent kids coming through, out the rest of them.
First time I have ever booed the team during the match today, and I have seen some rubbish over the years.
ZZ would be the first player out of that whole squad you'd get rid of? Unbelievable.....guess the fact that he is likely to be voted player of the year doesn't amount to much. If he hadn't played as regularly as he has, we'd be in a much worse state, I'd be looking at the rest of the midfield before him. Holland great character runs his doo-dads off but doesn't offer any ability, Ambrose just hasn't put himself out enough, Thomas total waster, Sam decent not sure he's got enough ability, Semedo, very basic player. Still get rid of ZZ should be easy there will be plenty of Premier league clubs sniffing around.
But the squad definitely lacks balance - and for the Championship, too physically lightweight.
And the biggest problem is centre mid.
I sat with head in hands when 'Super Al' (yes some people did sing that today) brought Semedo on with 15 to go and needing a result, Im sure he did that to take the piss out of us.
I thought Varney looked ok today, but his last decent game was Palace.
Flash and Killer Johnny H P Williams P Mortimer and on and on there were 1 - 2 or more we cared about - there are none in this bunch really - Powell excepted and I don't care for the manager either....
(Basey/Wagstaff/etc may bring this back on the playing side)
ZZ is absolute quality.
I'd keep Gray I think he'll come good. Lita's not ours anyway neither is Cook who I wouldn't touvch with a bargepole - absolute cack. As for Halford don't get me started on him.
I don't think that he is anywhere near consistant enough with 1 good game being followed by a couple of duff ones.
Other than his physical presence there are no weaknesses in his game and some considerable strengths. He needs to be playing alongside a more physically robust player which, God bless him, Matty Holland isn't and neither was Reid.
ZZ is our one true Premiership class player. Others have the potential to become so and Ambrose and Thomas J can OCCASIONALLY play at that level.
I really hope we can hang on to ZZ and get the right type of player alongside him.