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Lloyd Sam

edited February 2008 in General Charlton
I am in two minds about him. He clearly has some technical ability, he generally doesn't hide in games and yet....and yet.....

I'm sure Pards and Parky will be working on him but he needs to sharpen up his decision making. So often he takes the wrong option, usually he dwells too long on the ball before passing it or getting in a shot. He clearly puts defenders on the back foot with his skill on the ball but he doesn't deliver much of the time. He's a bit like Thomas in that regard although I suspect Thomas has the ability to deliver, he just ain't at the races a lot of the time; whereas with Lloyd it may just be down to inexperience/confidence.

I think that with confidence and coaching, Lloyd could improve into a really damaging winger but he's got a way to go yet.

Comments

  • I agree he definitely needs to improve his final ball.
  • I think there were concerns about his fitness level and fading in the last 20 mins. That appears to have improved.

    Hope he gets a decent goal along the way as that will help. The Stoke one was a bit scruffy but I would take a 1-0 against Sheff Wed or Watford.
  • To me Lloyd Sam is a young promising player but I must agree with bingaddick he is great at running at defenders and putting them on the back foot but like Thomas is finishing product is poor however in my opinion we should stick with him and give him more playing time and hope that he generally gets better which I'm sure he will.
  • [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]whereas with Lloyd it may just be down to inexperience/confidence.

    I am afraid that he is one of those players whose brains are in their boots and that his level of improvement will be limited, remember he is not a kid (23 years old I think). I would love him to succeed for us but I just don't see it happening. If the loan window is still open then get a loanee in to at least put pressure on him, or is that where cook plays?.
  • Cook plays wide left - so that would free Thomas or Ambrose to play on the right
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Kap10[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]whereas with Lloyd it may just be down to inexperience/confidence.[/quote]

    I am afraid that he is one of those players whose brains are in their boots and that his level of improvement will be limited, remember he is not a kid (23 years old I think). I would love him to succeed for us but I just don't see it happening. If the loan window is still open then get a loanee in to at least put pressure on him, or is that where cook plays?.[/quote]

    I like him and before his sending off he was scoring and getting shots on target as well as hurting teams moe with his passing. He seems to have taken a step back but as others havee said wroks hard. tracks back and doesn't hide.

    He is 23 but has not played many games a victim of Curbs refusal to loan him out earlier. He should be now have had two or three seasons playing at a lower level to learn. Thankfully the likes of Aswad and Wright will not suffer from this.

    With Cook and Thomas to come back Ambrose and Sam will be under pressure which can only be good for the squad.
  • Wrong to compare because different positions, but i see a lot of Lisbie in him.

    The tools really are there, he just has to learn to bring them to the table consistently.

    Forget the age, he is a late starter, this is his first full season of playing regularly. If he has the confidence, he should be in a groove now and really looking to push on. Next 3-4 games are very important to him and his development because if he continues to drift off, he'll be out the side and back at square one.
  • I'll try and word this without sounding like I am being detrimental to Sam but it appears to me as though Pards is trying to improve him as a player and the thing he lacks most is a football brain which is the hardest thing to teach someone. If you notice he is trying many different things including improving his positional play (not just tearing down the line), he is playing many more simple balls and he is joining up with those around him a lot more (Holland and the Right back especially). I do believe if he works at this he will be one hell of a player BUT if he doesnt improve all the natural talent in the world wont take him forward as a player.
  • If that late chance had gone in rather than over the top to make it 3-0 I wager we wouldn't be having this conversation, at least not now!
  • I am as anti Sam as I am pro Thomas. Funny old game Saint....
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  • lloyd sam 1st goalscorer tomorrow.
    as well as playing against a former club, a good % of these type of threads end up with the players scoring, (ambrose and holland spring to mind).
  • [cite]Posted By: paulbaconsarnie[/cite]lloyd sam 1st goalscorer tomorrow.
    as well as playing against a former club, a good % of these type of threads end up with the players scoring, (ambrose and holland spring to mind).
    Bougherra?
  • that's a very very good call wss
  • [cite]Posted By: DJ Davey Dave[/cite]I am as anti Sam as I am pro Thomas. Funny old game Saint....

    Thomas who? Oh yes....
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