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In the cold light of Day

edited February 2008 in General Charlton
I for one am delighted with our dealings yesterday.

Yes we sold our best player, but at a profit. At the beginning of the season everything went through him and I think we became too predictable and so were therefore easier to stop. Also he was too good a player to not play but where was his best position? He was too slow for the wing and he constantly crept inside, he was best suited to playing behind a lone striker but we seem better with two up. Also at times he slowed down attacks by beating a man or doing a trick that meant we lost momentum initially.

It has taken us a while to get used to life without him but now we look more of a unit and this season I do not think we will miss him too much, especially if Cook stays fit and is as good as he is rumoured to be.

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  • My sentiments exactly. I wish Andy all the best, he is a real talent, but Ive stuck by my guns all along and said he made us one dimensional. I think we have finally gelled as a TEAM....which is what we were all waiting for afterall.
  • WSSWSS
    edited February 2008
    [cite]Posted By: cfgs[/cite]It has taken us a while to get used to life without him but now we look more of a unit and this season I do not think we will miss him too much, especially if Cook stays fit and is as good as he is rumoured to be.
    Totally agree, we did rely on Reid as an outlet because he was very good, but as you say it became too predictable and took the focus off of some of our other players who are indeed very good.

    We can now play through ZZ, down either wings with Ambrose and Sam and even Varney pushing out wide. We also now have Andy Gray who we can pump it up to and is very adept at holding the ball and making something happening.

    Thats without taking into acocunt two very good full backs who bascially can increase our attacking potential by 25% due to their positive forays into attack. Something we did not have at the start of the season.
  • agree with everything said above.

    Wish Andy all the best and I hope he does well, always seemed to come accross as a nice bloke, but he's gone now so lets move on and get 110% behind those that are still here.
  • [cite]Posted By: Tel-in-Oz[/cite]My sentiments exactly. I wish Andy all the best, he is a real talent, but Ive stuck by my guns all along and said he made us one dimensional. I think we have finally gelled as a TEAM....which is what we were all waiting for afterall.
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: cfgs[/cite]It has taken us a while to get used to life without him but now we look more of a unit and this season I do not think we will miss him too much, especially if Cook stays fit and is as good as he is rumoured to be.
    Totally agree, we did rely on Reid as an outlet because he was very good, but as you say it became too predictable and took the focus off of some of our other players who are indeed very good.

    We can now play through ZZ, down either wings with Ambrose and Sam and even Varney pushing out wide. W e also now have Andy Gray who we can pump it up to and is very adept at holding the ball and making something happening.

    Thats without taking into acocunt two very good full backs who bascially can increase our attacking potential by 25% due to their positive forays into attack. S oemthign we did not have at the start of the season.

    Hopefully none will dredge this up in the weeks to come and say so we don't need Reid then. I think our successes of late have been all about pace, the one thing he lacked.
  • Pards recognized in the aftermath of the Colchester debacle, that pace was what we were lacking - and in the very next match said that he was going with 2 pacy players up front and 2 pacy & energetic fullbacks.

    The 4-1 win over Blackpool was the result and every match since then, opponents have struggled to live with us.
    And those opponents were West Brom twice, Watford & Stoke - 3 of the only 4 teams above us.

    That fact wouldn't have been missed by the rest of the division. And that we did it without our best player.
  • Agree with every comment on every post in this thread.
  • the more i think about it, £4m is a huge amount of money for a man who, since signing for us has only played 38 out of 77 matches.
    i'm starting to look at it as though we've got shot of our highest earner, who we would've only got 2 years service during a 4 year deal. just hope lee cook only fills reid boots on the pitch and not in the 'cory gibbs treatment room'.
  • [cite]Posted By: paulbaconsarnie[/cite] just hope lee cook only fills reid boots on the pitch and not in the 'cory gibbs treatment room'.
    As long as it's boots and not his shorts
  • And we've still got John Thomas ..........
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]Agree with every comment on every post in this thread.
    I should've got in earlier then!

    Reid doesn't have pace, and before the team didn't either - now that it does I think it would have been fantastic to see Reid playing for us with Youga and Moo2 bombing down the flanks and an improving Varney up front with Gray.
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  • edited February 2008
    going with pace, hmmm

    Ambrose, Holland, Gray, ZZ, even Thomas - are hardly what I would call pacey, and Mcleod has been dropped, I still think we're missing something to make this argument sound, even with the more attacking full backs, time will tell I guess. What's this cook fella like?
  • Thats the point the Salad i think, rather than say the defenders passing the ball to Moo2 or Crabman, Sam etc they would probably have an inclination to go through Reid (like Arsenal and Henry), whether these are Pards instructions we cannot be sure but thats what it was like and would have been like in my opinion.

    As a result of everything going through Reid as well it affected him, if you noticed after 3 games on the spin he would be crap for the 4th game.
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]going with pace, hmmm

    Ambrose, Holland, Gray, ZZ, even Thomas - are hardly what I would call pacey, and Mcleod has been dropped, I still think we're missing something to make this argument sound.

    I think Ambrose is quick enough, Sam is quick, as is Varney and both the current fullbacks.
  • [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]going with pace, hmmm

    Ambrose, Holland, Gray, ZZ, even Thomas - are hardly what I would call pacey, and Mcleod has been dropped, I still think we're missing something to make this argument sound, even with the more attacking full backs, time will tell I guess.


    I'd bet ZZ is one of the fastest players in the squad
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]Agree with every comment on every post in this thread.

    I agree with every comment on every post in this thread apart from this one.
  • I agree with everything except wishing him well.

    For me, a club captain doing the off from a club who's hit form at the right time for promotion to join a sinking ship so he can earn four months money at Prem rates instead of Championship rates speaks volumes.

    Worse than Parker and Murphy IMO.
  • WSSWSS
    edited February 2008
    Holland is the club captain, always has been.
    [cite]Posted By: C_f_W[/cite]Worse than Parker and Murphy IMO.
    Really? Parker and Murphy both left for clubs that were BELOW us in the league didnt they? Reid left with a bit of a heavy heart in my opinion as a result of club needs and it was to a Premiership club. If he went to WBA, Palace, Stoke, Bristol City or Watford i would have been annoyed but not Sunderland.

    Good luck Reidy.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: razil[/cite] What's this cook fella like?[/quote]

    I saw a few vids on you tube of him ,looks to have a good last ball and bit of pace ,
    Also looks as if he will be a fans favorite,
    (wish i was there to watch this team,it looks good on paper)
  • edited February 2008
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Holland is the club captain, always has been.
    I thought he was made club captain at the beginning of the season in preference to Holland, and he was captain when Holland was in the starting line up too. I Stand corrected if not but he was still our captain up to the point he was injured, that counts for something to me.
    Parker and Murphy both left for clubs that were BELOW us in the league didnt they?
    Don't think so, both Chelsea and Spuds were above us in the league at the time but that's not really the point. Both left to go to clubs who are perceived to be bigger than us, who can pay more than us and both moves could've been perecived as a step up and could arguably offer more than us in terms of competition (Europe etc). Besides, show me a professional who wouldn't want to try and cut it at a 'bigger and better' club and I'll show you a slacker.

    True, the timing of Parker's departure was worse than Reid's. It triggered a massive slide for us at a time when we were heading for our best ever finish , maybe even Europe, and as fans it hurt us very, very deeply but it's since been widely accepted that very few of us would've turned down a three-fold increase in our salaries. Murphy left when we were, frankly, on the slide anyway so it can't be likened.

    Taking the circumstances of the three as presented at the time, Reid's looks the most short-sighted, pointless and most money-motivated of them all.

    In my humble opinion of course.
  • [cite]Posted By: eeladdick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite] What's this cook fella like?

    I saw a few vids on you tube of him ,looks to have a good last ball and bit of pace ,
    Also looks as if he will be a fans favorite,
    (wish i was there to watch this team,it looks good on paper)

    From what I've read the signs on Cook look good - should give Thomas something to think about too
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  • Mark, as mentioned in my Addicks Downunder report....we looked quite slick and very patient against Stoke.....I have a very good feeling about us now....us playing as a Team has a lot to do with it and if Cook can play as well as the QPR fans say he can, then he is going to be an awesome asset. Tel
  • Parker and Murphy dropped us in it because it all happened very fast with both.

    The possibility of Reid going to Sunderland has been discussed since October or November so we were hardly unprepared even though the formalities were tied up on the 31st.

    Reid will get a cheer from me when he comes back but that bald scouse twat will be booed with every ounce of my being.
  • But Fulham are plunging through the trapdoor - and we'll pass them on our way to the promised land.

    So maybe we'll miss playing the bald Scouse twattish one - who'll be around 33 next season and won't be on every Prem manager's shopping list.
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]And we've still got John Thomas ..........


    Who?
  • I though
    [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]And we've still got John Thomas ..........


    Who?

    I thought we were going to loan him out to Hampton Wick?....;-)
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]Parker and Murphy dropped us in it because it all happened very fast with both.

    not so fast with parker though len.
    we knew something was up when he was left out of the gillingham cup game (with an 'illness' wasn't it?). and curbs was quoted as saying that parker had 'had his head turned' by another club.
    not absolutely sure of the date of the gills cup game but am guessing it was in the 1st week of jan.
  • [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]I though
    [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]And we've still got John Thomas ..........


    Who?

    I thought we were going to loan him out to Hampton Wick?....;-)

    Bing's on the mark.

    John Thomas? Because sometimes he acts like a bit of a ........ (fill the blanks in yourselves, folks)
    Don't want to get sued now, do I? ;-)
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