I'd much rather the first combo of Gray and Varney but it wouldn't surprise me if Pards went with Iwelumo and Gray as to match their physical play plus an extra defender at set plays and corners. Thoughts ?
[quote][cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: ISawLeaburnScore[/cite]varney/gray no doubt, what's the point in playing them at a physical game that they are better at?
let's play our own football[/quote]
agree totally, but will Pards.[/quote]
So expect us to play Iwelumo and McLeod up top to start and then replace an ineffective McLeod with Darren Ambrose as we drop to 5 in midfield and slump to another home defeat
Yep Gray Varney makes the most sense, no point lumping up long balls for their huge centre backs to effectively deal with all night....keep it on the deck and out play them.
in my opinion, no. Thought we carried more threat when Varney came on. Iwelumo missed another sitter that could have lost us two points. Pards would say that we won the battle that allowed us to then win the war but I reckon we would have won the battle sooner with Varney up there. Can't see BigChris starting at Scunny.
in my opinion, no. Thought we carried more threat when Varney came on. Iwelumo missed another sitter that could have lost us two points. Pards would say that we won the battle that allowed us to then win the war but I reckon we would have won the battle sooner with Varney up there. Can't see BigChris starting at Scunny.
I thought Pards got a couple of things wrong last night.
For me we definitely should have started with Gray and Varney - I like Iwelumo, he tries hard and served us well earlier in the season but I think we've moved on now and for me he's not quite up to it. He's too immobile and too easy to defend, if we attack with some pace then we can stretch a team, especially one visiting the Valley looking for a draw (for me this is where we've been going wrong for most of the season and the reason for our poor home record).
I also thought the wrong winger was substituted, I don't really rate Sam and thought Ambrose looked lively yesterday. But there again, Sam scored the winner and we won the game on the back of a very good performance so what the hell do I know?!
Where are the Doom 'n Gloom merchants today by the way? Conspicuous by their absence. If we lose they log on within 30 seconds of the final whistle.
Perhaps you need to have a balance of all sorts of players and you need some physical presence but with Moo2 and Youga adding some pace and offensive play Iwelumo stood out as a bit of a Juggernaut in a team with pace and flair. Gray can hold the ball up well and looked to have some good touches to link up with like minded players around him. So I would prefer Varney/Gray at Scunny in a 4 4 2.
I have to say though that Matty Holland was immense. I thought a few months back that we had seen the best of him but I think his recent performances have been the best he has played for Charlton. Added to which is his experience and role as captain. Absolutely brilliant professional.
Agree entirely on Holland. I think his form actually took a huge upturn for us when Pardew came in as manager. I thought he was our best player in the run-in last season and on returning from injury this year has got better and better as the season's progressed. Those two tackles he put in after kick off last night can't be underestimated, I think they had a big effect on the crowd and showed Stoke and our own players that we were out there to fight for those three points if we had to...
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let's play our own football
agree totally, but will Pards.
let's play our own football[/quote]
agree totally, but will Pards.[/quote]
So expect us to play Iwelumo and McLeod up top to start and then replace an ineffective McLeod with Darren Ambrose as we drop to 5 in midfield and slump to another home defeat
bringing on gray and iwellumo for holland an ambrose
end up 5 up front and turning a 2 nil win into a 2-5 loss
Iwelumo will be on the bench just in case.
now now none of that bollox
Did Pards get it right?
For me we definitely should have started with Gray and Varney - I like Iwelumo, he tries hard and served us well earlier in the season but I think we've moved on now and for me he's not quite up to it. He's too immobile and too easy to defend, if we attack with some pace then we can stretch a team, especially one visiting the Valley looking for a draw (for me this is where we've been going wrong for most of the season and the reason for our poor home record).
I also thought the wrong winger was substituted, I don't really rate Sam and thought Ambrose looked lively yesterday. But there again, Sam scored the winner and we won the game on the back of a very good performance so what the hell do I know?!
Where are the Doom 'n Gloom merchants today by the way? Conspicuous by their absence. If we lose they log on within 30 seconds of the final whistle.
I have to say though that Matty Holland was immense. I thought a few months back that we had seen the best of him but I think his recent performances have been the best he has played for Charlton. Added to which is his experience and role as captain. Absolutely brilliant professional.