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Is the TV Licence good value?

edited November 2007 in Not Sports Related
Why are we still paying for a tv licence,all the BBC Needs is a few stations and a few radio programmes.
We have plenty of other options avaialble with the internet and mobile phones.
If you pay a monthly subscribiton to sky and have a digi box and pay for a licence then why don't we have a BBC Digibox then we can decide what we watch And what we pay for.
We could all be issued with a BBC card and it would be used as a pay as you view situation.
This would put the BBC on an even playing field with other commercial stations.
Just a thought, your PC will be next.

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  • The TV Licence is a stealth tax essentially to finance the State broadcaster.

    If it genuinely was a TV Licence your logic would be spot on and you'd be absolutely right in what you say.
  • Disagree totally.

    Try coming out here to Australia or going to the US, NZ or Canada and seeing what total and utter crap people have to watch compared to the UK, it really is a race to the bottom of the toilet.

    The US is a bit different to the UK because of its high pay TV take-up and access to stuff like HBO but Australian TV is absolutely woeful (as is TV in New Zealand) because all you really get are US shows and very little local content and the situation is nearly as bad in Canada although the CBC is not too bad itself.

    The best two content producers in the world (outside of the US) are Britain and Japan who both have license-fee supported public broadcasters supporting the production of high quality non-commercial content.

    You lot in England don't know how lucky you are to have the BBC!!! In places like India, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia and the Philippines the BBC World bouquet of cable channels are incredibly popular and even here in Australia the news networks use a lot of BBC coverage.

    The day the license fee system is abolished in favor of a commercial system will be the end for the BBC and that will be a terrible day for the UK and the destruction of one our finest assets which is respected all over the world.

    Who is leading the campaign for the abolition of the license fee in England? That's right, our old friend Mr Murdoch. Why ever do you think he might want to get rid of the BBC?
  • [cite]Posted By: Ormiston Addick[/cite]

    Who is leading the campaign for the abolition of the license fee in England? That's right, our old friend Mr Murdoch. Why ever do you think he might want to get rid of the BBC?

    Because he's a really nice chap who's looking out for the general public??
  • We should be proud of the BBC, we have one of, if not the, best broadcasting organisations in the world, with far higher quality output than many, many countries. It is definitely a very highly respected organisation worldwide and a big asset for us.

    And the spin-off is that it raises the standards for other channels so they don't go into freefall like elsewhere round the world.
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    edited November 2007
    [cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]We should be proud of the BBC, we have one of, if not the, best broadcasting organisations in the world, with far higher quality output than many, many countries. It is definitely a very highly respected organisation worldwide and a big asset for us.

    And the spin-off is that it raises the standards for other channels so they don't go into freefall like elsewhere round the world.
    that wasnt the question Caesar, it was whether or not the licence is good value.

    In my opinion i think if i pay for a Sky subscription that the TV licence should be incorporated in these costs - it never will but there we go!

    Also, it's a BBC licence, not a TV licence!
  • As Les has said, its a stealth tax and should be scrapped...
  • the fee winds me up on the surface, but if i think about it, i'm glad its there. Its worth paying for just to have a couple of channels that aren't saturated with adverts, and if all channels were commercial, then you would have even more advert breaks than you do now.
    Without the BBC, you wouldn't get problems like Coast getting an airing, nor would a lot of young comic stuff you get on BBC2, 3 and 4.

    Only thing that winds me up is BBC World. How annoying is it when abroad that its the only English channel you can get ????
  • i and i agree, its a BBC licence not a TV licence. I wonder how many wouldn't pay it if they lost access to BBC tv and radio shows, and website. I think they would miss it more than the £10 a month.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]i and i agree, its a BBC licence not a TV licence. I wonder how many wouldn't pay it if they lost access to BBC tv and radio shows, and website. I think they would miss it more than the £10 a month.
    we wouldnt lose access to the online stuff though would we Barts? That can be accessed anywhere in the world. I'm sure people in the states don't pay a licence to get onto bbc.co.uk.
  • Nope but BBC.co.uk international now has advertising on it.

    The BBC is great, it offers pularity of broadcasting in the uk, and the country needs strong Public service broadcasting. My bigger problem is Channel 4, which deserves to be privatised
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  • WSS - Yes, but you have to pay an ISP for broadband to get anything from the BBC website in terms of audio or video so its not a direct comparison.

    The goodwill the BBC generates all over the world for the UK is simply enormous, it is THE best brand we have.
  • You're not wrong Ormy.
  • The BBC is a fat, overblown organisation that is completely up itself.

    Is the licence fee worth it? Absolutely. You only have to watch one of those cracking nature documentaries they churn out - like Planet Earth - to realise that you just wouldn't get that quality of programme without them. There's plenty wrong with the BBC - although in fairness it's a difficult job trying to be all things to all people - but I think the current system is one to be cherished and protected - even proud of - and not dismantled.

    Fcuk me - I'm starting to sound like my dad!
  • The BBC shows Spooks, what else do you guys want :-)
  • [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]The BBC shows Spooks, what else do you guys want :-)
    i suspect porn
  • Well put off_it, not perfect, but great value for what you get.
  • [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]The BBC shows Spooks, what else do you guys want :-)
    i suspect porn

    With the cute short haired chick from spooks? Now theres an idea....
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]The BBC is a fat, overblown organisation that is completely up itself.

    Is the licence fee worth it? Absolutely. You only have to watch one of those cracking nature documentaries they churn out - like Planet Earth - to realise that you just wouldn't get that quality of programme without them. There's plenty wrong with the BBC - although in fairness it's a difficult job trying to be all things to all people - but I think the current system is one to be cherished and protected - even proud of - and not dismantled.

    Fcuk me - I'm starting to sound like my dad![/quote]

    Pretty much spot on.
    It is definitely bloated and the arrogance of many employees there is unbelievable but it also has many strengths that we should cherish and not allow the likes of Murdoch to wreck.

    Once the next round of redundancies are put into place it will be a much slimmer, more efficient organisation and able to justify the licence fee, even in today's multi-channel environment.
    Thompson has done a good job clearing up the mess that Dyke left.
    The piece by Adam Boulton on his blog noting that for one press conference he attended for Sky New and sky online the Beeb sent at least five different reporters to was a pretty simple and devastating critique
  • The BBC infuriates me so much at times. Too many instances to list here. However this is totally outweighed by my undying admiration for so much they do and have produced over my lifetime.
    I love the BBC and we would be a very sad country without them.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]i and i agree, its a BBC licence not a TV licence. I wonder how many wouldn't pay it if they lost access to BBC tv and radio shows, and website. I think they would miss it more than the £10 a month.

    The percentage of my viewing/ listening time for the BBC is very very low...less than 5% I reckon...
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  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Gump[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]i and i agree, its a BBC licence not a TV licence. I wonder how many wouldn't pay it if they lost access to BBC tv and radio shows, and website. I think they would miss it more than the £10 a month.[/quote]

    The percentage of my viewing/ listening time for the BBC is very very low...less than 5% I reckon...[/quote]

    Oh please
  • [cite]Posted By: Gump[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]i and i agree, its a BBC licence not a TV licence. I wonder how many wouldn't pay it if they lost access to BBC tv and radio shows, and website. I think they would miss it more than the £10 a month.

    The percentage of my viewing/ listening time for the BBC is very very low...less than 5% I reckon...

    Let me guess, jizz channels and Sci-Fi... LOL
  • edited November 2007
    Oh please what?.....they're the facts....Most night s I watch a film on Sky, don't watch soaps and I hardly listen to the radio
  • edited November 2007
    [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite] Let me guess, jizz channels and Sci-Fi... LOL

    Lol......I use the Net for "jizz"...
  • never look at the BBC website? never watch Sportsscene on BBC scotland?
  • [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]i and i agree, its a BBC licence not a TV licence. I wonder how many wouldn't pay it if they lost access to BBC tv and radio shows, and website. I think they would miss it more than the £10 a month.
    we wouldnt lose access to the online stuff though would we Barts? That can be accessed anywhere in the world. I'm sure people in the states don't pay a licence to get onto bbc.co.uk.

    Ahem! If the online stuff were available anywhere in the world, we wouldn't have the overseas guys on here moaning so much about our lack of commentary.

    I remember arguing ages ago when ITV won the rights to Premiership football that I shouldn't have to pay a license as I only wanted the BBC for Match of The Day. I therefore agree that it should be called a 'BBC License' and you should have a choice.

    I also agree with Ormiston Addick though. Live outside the UK and you'd miss it.
    Come to France - that would really get your goat.
    The situation here is ridiculous. In France you get an 'audiovisual' tax added to your Housing Tax. If you don't have a TV (or want to lie) you have to go to the tax office and sign a declaration saying that you don't have a TV. Otherwise you are assumed to have one and are charged 116 euros (which for those of us on crappy French incomes is more than £116 to those in the UK). You can't claim not to have a TV if you've bought one first-hand, as the shop sends notification to the government. The only way to do it is to buy one second-hand, cash in hand, and then go and lie to the Tax Office (how do I know that!?). Other people have a family member to buy all the TV's so they all then share the one tax.That's all just to avoid commercialised TV stations, full of crappy dubbed American sit-coms. What bliss to be able to watch programmes with no ads. The football in France, for example has no pre-match and half-time analysis. Even The World Cup Final was just the match surrounded totally by prime time ads (and France were in it!)
    I personally download English TV as much as possible or bring it back via easyjet on videos! I have a TV for that but would now gladly pay 10 euros a month for a BBC license - I pay the same now for jack-shit!
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