The ridiculous thing about all of this is that it's not even a bunch of day trippers looking for aggro like you'd get at Wembley or what you'd expect at a home game where there's 16k of them. To get a ticket for Charlton away you've got to be (i assume) a regular away traveller with a high points total.
One thing is certain though, whatever plan the police concoct for next season it has to be different to the shambles from Saturday.
Only to a certain extent.
Like us, there fan base will have there regular away travellers on high loyalty points but probably not all that many. I don’t know how many fans they average to take to away games but it certainly won’t be in the thousands where the top 3,200 regulars were the ones who got all the tickets.
Let’s say they average 800 away an away game that’s still only 25% of the allocation. You could even be generous and say based on an average just under 1,100 that would still only be 33% of the allocation.
You can probably assume at least 50% of them would have been day trippers, away casuals or whatever label you want to put on them.
If only offered them at most whatever the average is they take to an away day then that point would probably stick about being regulars only.
The ridiculous thing about all of this is that it's not even a bunch of day trippers looking for aggro like you'd get at Wembley or what you'd expect at a home game where there's 16k of them. To get a ticket for Charlton away you've got to be (i assume) a regular away traveller with a high points total.
One thing is certain though, whatever plan the police concoct for next season it has to be different to the shambles from Saturday.
I know one spanner who lives up north who was at the game, a member only, he managed to get a ticket in JS.
They probably only have about 500 regular travelers.
I know of one of them in the covered end, old work colleague, saw him before the game started on the concourse, told me he had his charlton mates season ticket, that fella needs to give his head a wobble.
I am baffled how this gate was able to be opened. Surely it is normally locked.
Emergency escape route. Doubt you are allowed to lock it.
Excellent, so they'll all just exit that way next time. You couldn't make this nonsense up (not you Airman).
As far as I am aware there is no reason why that gate could not have been locked PROVIDED the key is held by a responsible person in the vicinity or is stored in the immediate vicinity and is readily available at all times.
Think about it. All venues have emergency exits but these are generally not kept open because you would get people from outside using them to gain unauthorised entry.
Emergency exits cannot be locked shut whilst stand / venue is occupied, however they can be fitted with panic bolts / push bars which allow immediate exit and prevent ingress. Fire doors must be able to fully open from the inside with no obstructions.
These particular gates, like others, have a secondary twist mechanism which slots into the ground, as well as the bolt between them. However, as the gates open into the AC Stand this is on the Jimmy Seed Stand side. Normally the stewards would be on the inside of gates - for example, the exit gates on to Harvey Gardens - but here they were on the outside. This may be a factor in why the Millwall fans were able to get through but you can understand why the stewards were on the “wrong” side.
The reason the gates open that way is probably that it is an escape route for the JS Stand but not one for the AC Stand, which has two other exits.
This is horrible. I hope the fan who got a punch there makes a complaint to the club. Shocking policing.
Bloke who is clearly not about all that in glasses holding his hands up to show he's not interested gets a clump. If that's what their lot are about these days deary me. Breaking into a stand housed by mainly scarfer types and clearly significantly outnumbering those who are up for it.
Puts to bed all that bollocks about bullshit romanticised honour and code and nonsense that gets rolled out in the hoolie wanksfest films. Get up to the woods with like minded people, pay a subsidy to the NHS to sort you out afterwards or go to a boxing club and leave the rest of us to get on with the game ffs.
Tragic, inadequate people. Bullies
@oohaahmortimer has plonked a YouTube clip on the other thread that changes things a tad.
It's on this thread as well. Doesn't really change anything to what Rodney has posted. A couple of Charlton idiots who either ran or the Millwall lot didn't get to them doesn't mean it's alright to start on whoever next is available
My point is that if there was nobody the other side of the gate this would not have happened.
There's always gonna be people there it's e to the stairs for the the fucking exit. Absolutely no need for their fans to be there as their exit is the other end....other than looking to have a row.
They did not need to go down the stairs, the exits are upstairs.
Are you on a wind up? You have to go to the bottom of the area to go up the stairs.
Put your phone away and go and have a beer and samba on the beach or something
Well in that case I am wrong. I thought you walked along the concourse and turned left.
No need for the sarcasm.
Mate you are a mug
Really.
Yep
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Like us, there fan base will have there regular away travellers on high loyalty points but probably not all that many. I don’t know how many fans they average to take to away games but it certainly won’t be in the thousands where the top 3,200 regulars were the ones who got all the tickets.
You can probably assume at least 50% of them would have been day trippers, away casuals or whatever label you want to put on them.
If only offered them at most whatever the average is they take to an away day then that point would probably stick about being regulars only.
The reason the gates open that way is probably that it is an escape route for the JS Stand but not one for the AC Stand, which has two other exits.