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Are Charlton the only side ever to have beaten teams that have later won both the World Cup and the Club World Cup?

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  • Chizz said:
    Are Charlton the only side ever to have beaten teams that have later won both the World Cup and the Club World Cup?
    No. Probably a few given international teams playing against club teams before tournaments was not super rare.

    Arsenal beat France 2-0 in 1989, so they're at least 1 side that have.
  • So, maybe we're among the first teams to do so? 
  • Yeah I wouldn't imagine there's more than a handful at most given you'd have to have beaten one of only 8 countries. 

    Having a quick Google, Tottenham beat an England F.A select in 1961. There is some debate as to whether it counts as an official win over England.
  • I'll get the obvious joke about others beating West Ham in first.
  • And we have beaten them both 5-2.
  • edited July 14
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  • If it was suicide, then the sequence of events is confusing.

    One pilot is suicidal, so turns both engines off to try and cause a deathly crash. Other pilot notices and questions why they're off. The suicidal pilot then denies he turned them off and immediately turns them back on.

    That makes no sense, if we're to believe that pilot truly was suicidal then surely they would keep them turned off, or at the very least delay turning them back on as long as possible.

    Even then, there's only two possible reasons to turn them back on if the pilot was suicidal. One they had a change of heart, or two, they always intended to turn them back on at the last moment so the switches were in the correct position when the wreckage was recovered. That would take the pilot completely forgetting about both black boxes.

    Either way, it doesn't make a lot of sense 
    Especially on this thread
  • If it was suicide, then the sequence of events is confusing.

    One pilot is suicidal, so turns both engines off to try and cause a deathly crash. Other pilot notices and questions why they're off. The suicidal pilot then denies he turned them off and immediately turns them back on.

    That makes no sense, if we're to believe that pilot truly was suicidal then surely they would keep them turned off, or at the very least delay turning them back on as long as possible.

    Even then, there's only two possible reasons to turn them back on if the pilot was suicidal. One they had a change of heart, or two, they always intended to turn them back on at the last moment so the switches were in the correct position when the wreckage was recovered. That would take the pilot completely forgetting about both black boxes.

    Either way, it doesn't make a lot of sense 
    Especially on this thread
    Oops!
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  • If it was suicide, then the sequence of events is confusing.

    One pilot is suicidal, so turns both engines off to try and cause a deathly crash. Other pilot notices and questions why they're off. The suicidal pilot then denies he turned them off and immediately turns them back on.

    That makes no sense, if we're to believe that pilot truly was suicidal then surely they would keep them turned off, or at the very least delay turning them back on as long as possible.

    Even then, there's only two possible reasons to turn them back on if the pilot was suicidal. One they had a change of heart, or two, they always intended to turn them back on at the last moment so the switches were in the correct position when the wreckage was recovered. That would take the pilot completely forgetting about both black boxes.

    Either way, it doesn't make a lot of sense 
    Especially on this thread
    Oops!
    Is that what he said when he flicked the switch? 
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