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Captain next season

Addicksi
Addicksi Posts: 33
in General Charlton
I appreciate Docs efforts last year and seems to be encouraging around the team. I'd like to see Lloyd Jones take the armband this time  
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  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 990
    Doc will be licky to be a starter, must be LJ.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,290
    Gisappointed said:
    Doc will be licky to be a starter, must be LJ.
    Private past it?
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,845
    Gisappointed said:
    Doc will be licky to be a starter, must be LJ.
    He'll have to suck it as well as lick, to keep the armband. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    LJ I would expect to be skipper, Doc isn't guaranteed to start. Doc as VC wouldn't surprise me though. 
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 375
    There'll be no change...
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,043
    No need to change it if Doc doesn’t start. He seems like a great leader anyway so not sure why you’d take it off him 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    fenaddick said:
    No need to change it if Doc doesn’t start. He seems like a great leader anyway so not sure why you’d take it off him 
    This is a joke right???
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,002
    LJ may find the responsibility adversely affects his game
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    A change of skipper can sometimes affect team morale detrimentally. We had a great finish to last season and whether Doc is a regular starter or not I can't see any need to change this right now. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,043
    eaststandmike said:
    fenaddick said:
    No need to change it if Doc doesn’t start. He seems like a great leader anyway so not sure why you’d take it off him 
    This is a joke right???
    Nope, not all leaders are big shouty Dobbo types. Some know how to do it quietly and he’s clearly one of them
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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    fenaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    fenaddick said:
    No need to change it if Doc doesn’t start. He seems like a great leader anyway so not sure why you’d take it off him 
    This is a joke right???
    Nope, not all leaders are big shouty Dobbo types. Some know how to do it quietly and he’s clearly one of them
    Dobson although all action was the very opposite of a shouty type on the pitch. Docherty on the other hand not only is shouty, but also clearly wears his emotions on his sleeve. 

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I can't see the club captaincy being taken of Docherty, as it feels quite a brutal step to take.

    It wouldn't surprise me though if Lloyd ends up wearing the armband a lot of the time, as I can't see Docherty starting as many games next season in the Championship.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    fenaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    fenaddick said:
    No need to change it if Doc doesn’t start. He seems like a great leader anyway so not sure why you’d take it off him 
    This is a joke right???
    Nope, not all leaders are big shouty Dobbo types. Some know how to do it quietly and he’s clearly one of them
    But your captain and the armband have to start, you can’t have a captain on the subs bench 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,043
    eaststandmike said:
    fenaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    fenaddick said:
    No need to change it if Doc doesn’t start. He seems like a great leader anyway so not sure why you’d take it off him 
    This is a joke right???
    Nope, not all leaders are big shouty Dobbo types. Some know how to do it quietly and he’s clearly one of them
    But your captain and the armband have to start, you can’t have a captain on the subs bench 
    Wasn't a problem when Pearce was captain at the end of his career, or Chris Solly, or Jacko
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    killerandflash said:
    I can't see the club captaincy being taken of Docherty, as it feels quite a brutal step to take.

    It wouldn't surprise me though if Lloyd ends up wearing the armband a lot of the time, as I can't see Docherty starting as many games next season in the Championship.
    Yeah I imagine Doherty stays as "club captain" but there might end up being someone else who ends up being skipper on the pitch. L. Jones is a strong possibility, but NJ seems to favour midfield captains - maybe Coventry steps up?

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 11
    Docherty as the Club Captain, and then the likes of Godden / Jones / Coventry, even Burke as Match Captain

    We did the same when Pearce / Solly were at the end of their careers.

    One sole Captain on the pitch with the armband is an overrated role anyway, need to have leaders all over the team
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,525
    Can’t see anything changing regarding captain, still Doc the way I see it 🤷‍♂️
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 375
    I find it amazing that the man who led us to Wembley, and raised the trophy, can be binned by people who have never played professional sport, and have no idea of what goes on in the background...

    If you were treated in your own professional life the way you want to treat Doc, after an incredible season, how would you all feel?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    SteveACS said:
    I find it amazing that the man who led us to Wembley, and raised the trophy, can be binned by people who have never played professional sport, and have no idea of what goes on in the background...

    If you were treated in your own professional life the way you want to treat Doc, after an incredible season, how would you all feel?
    If we buy a better central midfielder, Doc will lose his place in the team, that's how football works. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,043
    killerandflash said:
    SteveACS said:
    I find it amazing that the man who led us to Wembley, and raised the trophy, can be binned by people who have never played professional sport, and have no idea of what goes on in the background...

    If you were treated in your own professional life the way you want to treat Doc, after an incredible season, how would you all feel?
    If we buy a better central midfielder, Doc will lose his place in the team, that's how football works. 
    That's a different question to if he should be club captain or not though. No player is undroppable 
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  • Photollery
    Photollery Posts: 119
    Just give it to Tracey…
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    SteveACS said:
    I find it amazing that the man who led us to Wembley, and raised the trophy, can be binned by people who have never played professional sport, and have no idea of what goes on in the background...

    If you were treated in your own professional life the way you want to treat Doc, after an incredible season, how would you all feel?
    I imagine he knows there will be stronger competition for his place this season and that he shouldn’t assume he’s guaranteed his spot just because he’s captain.

    The new signings haven’t joined with the expectation they’re only here to be cover for last seasons regulars. All places in the starting 11 are up for grabs.

    I would also think Doc would be unhappy if we got promoted and didn’t strengthen the squad. He still has ambitions to play for Scotland, so to do that he needs to be playing well in the Championship at the very least - that doesn’t happen without us improving the team and some players losing their place.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,740
    I’d definitely keep the Doc as Captain . Obviously if he’s not playing then Jones should have the arm band .
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,844
    Unlike cricket for example where the captain makes most of the on field decisions, the role of a captain on the pitch in football is greatly exaggerated. The captain represents the club to the referee, calls the coin toss - and that's about it. Professional footballers should not need to be motivated by another player - they should be able to self-motivate and part of their role is to encourage their team mates. All of the on field decisions, formation, tactics, change of tactics, substitutions (who, when) and so on are made by the manager!

    A Club Captain should be looked up to and respected by the rest of the squad, a person any player can talk to if they have an issue (professional or personal), and encourage on the training ground and in the dressing room. The Club Captain can do all of that whether he's on the pitch or not.

    If Doc fits that description then he is the right man for the job.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Don't see why we dont just give it to Lockyer to wear on his other arm
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,567
    Photollery said:
    Just give it to Tracey…
    Ray has retired
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 375
    bobmunro said:
    Unlike cricket for example where the captain makes most of the on field decisions, the role of a captain on the pitch in football is greatly exaggerated. The captain represents the club to the referee, calls the coin toss - and that's about it. Professional footballers should not need to be motivated by another player - they should be able to self-motivate and part of their role is to encourage their team mates. All of the on field decisions, formation, tactics, change of tactics, substitutions (who, when) and so on are made by the manager!

    A Club Captain should be looked up to and respected by the rest of the squad, a person any player can talk to if they have an issue (professional or personal), and encourage on the training ground and in the dressing room. The Club Captain can do all of that whether he's on the pitch or not.

    If Doc fits that description then he is the right man for the job.
    So that's all you thought Jacko did? Or Kinsella?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    bobmunro said:
    Unlike cricket for example where the captain makes most of the on field decisions, the role of a captain on the pitch in football is greatly exaggerated. The captain represents the club to the referee, calls the coin toss - and that's about it. Professional footballers should not need to be motivated by another player - they should be able to self-motivate and part of their role is to encourage their team mates. All of the on field decisions, formation, tactics, change of tactics, substitutions (who, when) and so on are made by the manager!

    A Club Captain should be looked up to and respected by the rest of the squad, a person any player can talk to if they have an issue (professional or personal), and encourage on the training ground and in the dressing room. The Club Captain can do all of that whether he's on the pitch or not.

    If Doc fits that description then he is the right man for the job.
    Doc might be great off the field, but on the pitch Lloyd is far more of a leader. I like my Captains to be quite vocal.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,221
    Something that was very clear last season was the morale and togetherness of the side, especially from January onwards. 

    Our momentum from that incredible run of points could be incredibly important to us as season starts. Personally wouldn't want to do too much to disrupt that, and feel Doc staying as captain is good for the squad as a whole. Whether or not he's on the bench due to players coming in who works better with what Jones wants to achieve. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,844
    SteveACS said:
    bobmunro said:
    Unlike cricket for example where the captain makes most of the on field decisions, the role of a captain on the pitch in football is greatly exaggerated. The captain represents the club to the referee, calls the coin toss - and that's about it. Professional footballers should not need to be motivated by another player - they should be able to self-motivate and part of their role is to encourage their team mates. All of the on field decisions, formation, tactics, change of tactics, substitutions (who, when) and so on are made by the manager!

    A Club Captain should be looked up to and respected by the rest of the squad, a person any player can talk to if they have an issue (professional or personal), and encourage on the training ground and in the dressing room. The Club Captain can do all of that whether he's on the pitch or not.

    If Doc fits that description then he is the right man for the job.
    So that's all you thought Jacko did? Or Kinsella?

    Of course not - but you don't need an armband to lead by example. Every player should do that.

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