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Is this a turning point?
thetomahawkkid
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Sunday was obviously a great day out, and a fantastic result, but to me it felt even more than that. It felt like a turning point.
We are clearly in for exciting times next season. There are some big games coming up, and based on the euphoria generated by promotion, we should be able to get close to (or exceed?) 20,000 average attendance. The commercial impact of this increase should be huge. The whole atmosphere next season should be terrific.
We will be a much more attractive proposition for advertisers and sponsors.
We will be a much more attractive proposition to new (additional) investors. The investors have witnessed first-hand at Wembley the potential of the club, and we are just one good season away from the Premier League.
We will find it easier to retain and attract players. Having Phil Chapple involved with recruitment feels like a great move. Yes, we need some serious strengthening, but I feel much more confident about this now.
Gavin Carter feels like a great fit for the club.
If the club (owners and other senior management) get it right, and we survive next season, it feels like it could be the start of something big.
We are clearly in for exciting times next season. There are some big games coming up, and based on the euphoria generated by promotion, we should be able to get close to (or exceed?) 20,000 average attendance. The commercial impact of this increase should be huge. The whole atmosphere next season should be terrific.
We will be a much more attractive proposition for advertisers and sponsors.
We will be a much more attractive proposition to new (additional) investors. The investors have witnessed first-hand at Wembley the potential of the club, and we are just one good season away from the Premier League.
We will find it easier to retain and attract players. Having Phil Chapple involved with recruitment feels like a great move. Yes, we need some serious strengthening, but I feel much more confident about this now.
Gavin Carter feels like a great fit for the club.
If the club (owners and other senior management) get it right, and we survive next season, it feels like it could be the start of something big.
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Not quite 1998 big, but the last month has shown the massive potential of the club if the owners still had any doubt.0
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Ask the question again come the end of next season.thetomahawkkid said:Sunday was obviously a great day out, and a fantastic result, but to me it felt even more than that. It felt like a turning point.
We are clearly in for exciting times next season. There are some big games coming up, and based on the euphoria generated by promotion, we should be able to get close to (or exceed?) 20,000 average attendance. The commercial impact of this increase should be huge. The whole atmosphere next season should be terrific.
We will be a much more attractive proposition for advertisers and sponsors.
We will be a much more attractive proposition to new (additional) investors. The investors have witnessed first-hand at Wembley the potential of the club, and we are just one good season away from the Premier League.
We will find it easier to retain and attract players. Having Phil Chapple involved with recruitment feels like a great move. Yes, we need some serious strengthening, but I feel much more confident about this now.
Gavin Carter feels like a great fit for the club.
If the club (owners and other senior management) get it right, and we survive next season, it feels like it could be the start of something big.
Early indications will be the transfer window.3 -
I'm sure every club says it when they get promoted. Sure we said in 2019 and when we went up as champions with SCP.
It could be is the only answer.2 -
This is Charlton - never get your hopes up too high!5
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I'd be very surprised if we average 20,000 next season. After the 2011 and 2019 promotions, we averaged around 18,000 to 18,500.1
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We’ve been here before and look where we ended up season 23/24. Yes we have what seem to be decent owners who appear to have a plan and a good manager so things bode well but it will all depend on how much ambition and available money is there. Without both next season will be a real slog. We can’t really on doing things differently and smarter. The Championship is unrelentingly tough and we’re up against some big guns. Whether we’re at a turning point or not ? Well the jury is still out.7
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Hope so. Big opportunity for the owners if they’re serious.P.S owners: buy The Valley back.1
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It turns out we are favourites for relegation, a turning point will be survival next season.0
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Of course we are. Why wouldn’t we be ? Most promoted sides are viewed in the same way. This squad would get murdered next season but the squad won’t be the same as this season so it’s far from clear cut.jose said:It turns out we are favourites for relegation, a turning point will be survival next season.2 - Sponsored links:
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Looks maybe a slightly trickier league next season but all 3 promoted side stayed up again (that's at least the 2nd season in a row where it has happened).3
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Too early to say2
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Gillis said:I'd be very surprised if we average 20,000 next season. After the 2011 and 2019 promotions, we averaged around 18,000 to 18,500.You'll probably be not too far off with those gates.I'd like to think we'll get 10k season ticket holders, pure guesswork of 4000 general sales, then the big difference between these two divisions, the massive increase in the away followings.1
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The Red Robin said:Hope so. Big opportunity for the owners if they’re serious.P.S owners: buy The Valley back.
Charlie boy kept saying we were in discussions, and I hung on his every word.
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There is 100% a different feeling around the club. Noticed in the away games I've been to in 2025. I know winning helps but crowd were not on the backs if the players even during a 3-0 loss. The Valley was electric for Northampton and playoff game. Wembley was a perfect end.Whatever happens next season, a corner has been turned.3
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I see it as more of a launchpad than a turning point.
In both 2012 and 2019 the manager had the rug pulled up from under them by the owners not investing.
Powell still got us to just outside the play-offs and Bowyer was one goal away from staying up despite the crooks Southall and Amis being in charge.
There are no guarantees and it is a very tough division but with the right manager, the right recruitment, the right investment, the right fitness regime along with some luck there is a base to build from.17 -
It COULD be. Whether or not it actually is we can't say yet.0
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Maybe, but one thing it definitely isn't is failure. We should all agree on that at least?0
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Prime example is Peterborough away.fenlandaddick said:There is 100% a different feeling around the club. Noticed in the away games I've been to in 2025. I know winning helps but crowd were not on the backs if the players even during a 3-0 loss. The Valley was electric for Northampton and playoff game. Wembley was a perfect end.Whatever happens next season, a corner has been turned.
"3 nil down, who gives a fuck, we're Charlton Athletic and we're going up"
Same for Brum away loss, same for Rotherham. We bounced back each time.5 -
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Prime example is Peterborough away.fenlandaddick said:There is 100% a different feeling around the club. Noticed in the away games I've been to in 2025. I know winning helps but crowd were not on the backs if the players even during a 3-0 loss. The Valley was electric for Northampton and playoff game. Wembley was a perfect end.Whatever happens next season, a corner has been turned.
"3 nil down, who gives a fuck, we're Charlton Athletic and we're going up"
Same for Brum away loss, same for Rotherham. We bounced back each time.
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Baancin' surely ?2
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Momentum is huge in football, and sport. I think the big difference to the Bowyer and Powell promotions from League 1 is it seems the owners are pushing in the same direction as the fans and players this time. If they back Jones this summer it really could be an exciting era.6
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An opportunity to keep the momentum going and more of a springboard to aim for 15th and if we finish 19th or 20th with half a dozen points above the dreaded drop then no harm done other than more nervous moments.
The Elephant in the room remains we are renting the Valley and Sparrows so staying up and buying the club back from the ageing Roland Duchatelet would be a turning point and would go down as the best season for 18 years if we stay in the Championship and own the land.
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If there’s money to spend I’d much prefer it to be spent on really securing our Championship status and revisit The Valley purchase once we’re a Championship side looking up not down. Relegation would be an absolute disaster and put us back to square one.soapboxsam said:An opportunity to keep the momentum going and more of a springboard to aim for 15th and if we finish 19th or 20th with half a dozen points above the dreaded drop then no harm done other than more nervous moments.
The Elephant in the room remains we are renting the Valley and Sparrows so staying up and buying the club back from the ageing Roland Duchatelet would be a turning point and would go down as the best season for 18 years if we stay in the Championship and own the land.4 -
Plus, promotion won’t have made Roland want to lower his price.3
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Staying up will be a bigger turning point than the promotion IMO.6
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ShootersHillGuru said:
If there’s money to spend I’d much prefer it to be spent on really securing our Championship status and revisit The Valley purchase once we’re a Championship side looking up not down. Relegation would be an absolute disaster and put us back to square one.soapboxsam said:An opportunity to keep the momentum going and more of a springboard to aim for 15th and if we finish 19th or 20th with half a dozen points above the dreaded drop then no harm done other than more nervous moments.
The Elephant in the room remains we are renting the Valley and Sparrows so staying up and buying the club back from the ageing Roland Duchatelet would be a turning point and would go down as the best season for 18 years if we stay in the Championship and own the land.
Yes good point Guru ✅ I got carried away 🤷🏻♂️❎
Palace haven't spent much money on their old crappy ground in recent years but have invested in their player recruitment and their training ground in Beckenham for the first team and their academy.
Not only that, when Roland Duchatelet expires soon, Roderick Duchatelet may be glad to sell up for the going rate and not put the price up once a fee is agreed.
Staying up is paramount for the 25/26 season and all resources need to go to that and then we can kick on as our very rich owner Friedman decides he's enjoying the kudos of this journey and feels very philanthropic 🤞🏻
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Woodwork said:Plus, promotion won’t have made Roland want to lower his price.He'd not be interested in that even if Charlton did not go up.It's all about bluff with him, he's got us in his pockets, sadly.0
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soapboxsam said:ShootersHillGuru said:
If there’s money to spend I’d much prefer it to be spent on really securing our Championship status and revisit The Valley purchase once we’re a Championship side looking up not down. Relegation would be an absolute disaster and put us back to square one.soapboxsam said:An opportunity to keep the momentum going and more of a springboard to aim for 15th and if we finish 19th or 20th with half a dozen points above the dreaded drop then no harm done other than more nervous moments.
The Elephant in the room remains we are renting the Valley and Sparrows so staying up and buying the club back from the ageing Roland Duchatelet would be a turning point and would go down as the best season for 18 years if we stay in the Championship and own the land.
Yes good point Guru ✅ I got carried away 🤷🏻♂️❎
Palace haven't spent much money on their old crappy ground in recent years but have invested in their player recruitment and their training ground in Beckenham for the first team and their academy.
Not only that, when Roland Duchatelet expires soon, Roderick Duchatelet may be glad to sell up for the going rate and not put the price up once a fee is agreed.
Staying up is paramount for the 25/26 season and all resources need to go to that and then we can kick on as our very rich owner Friedman decides he's enjoying the kudos of this journey and feels very philanthropic 🤞🏻Whatever the geezer has done, I do not wish ill on his health. For his sake I hope he is around for many more years, consequently the next few years are going to be very interesting, and perhaps upsetting for a lot of Charlton fans who do not want to play anywhere else other than The Valley.Our promotion hopefully will see progress in negotiations with him.1 -
Yes, this will be our third time lucky... I hope.
With this ownership, manager, coaching team, medical/fitness/sports science and very recent new hires in recruitment we're in a good position to build on this promotion.
On the squad, we don't have many out of contract and only a couple of loanees who joined as squad players. Many players have improved over the past year or so and some should improve further.
We're continuing to bring through academy players and have various promising players on the fringes, I'm sure at least 2 or 3 are going to make an impact in the first team in the next year or so.4
