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Clean Sheets

Exiled_Addick
Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,169
in General Charlton
Clean sheets, clean sheets, clean sheets!!!

They may not win you friends, but they can win you promotion. 

Five all of last season. 

Three in the playoffs alone. 

Fitting it was a defender who won us the game. 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,769
    No goal conceded in about 300 odd minutes.

    Machines. 
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    There will be none in my house tonight.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,742
    Brownie12 said:
    There will be none in my house tonight.
    Pinkie or Brownie?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,624
    Going to take more than relying on clean sheets next season. Midfield was bossed today and we’ll face better every week in The Championship. I’m sure Nathan knows what’s needed though.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,169
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Going to take more than relying on clean sheets next season. Midfield was bossed today and we’ll face better every week in The Championship. I’m sure Nathan knows what’s needed though.
    Cheer up, we won. Next season is next season this season was a success. All that matters for now. And they weren’t “bossed” anyway, just Orient had their decent spell, but got fuck all to show for it. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Going to take more than relying on clean sheets next season. Midfield was bossed today and we’ll face better every week in The Championship. I’m sure Nathan knows what’s needed though.
    Bossed? Or happy to give up possession? It’s not like we were ever pinned back against the walls. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,624
    Our midfield today on that performance was bossed. Don’t let the euphoria gloss over the fact. I realise that won’t be our team when August comes but I think every championship side would have beaten us today.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    And our midfield bossed Birminghams earlier on in the season. 

    Circumstances, and game states. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    FishCostaFortune said:
    And our midfield bossed Birminghams earlier on in the season. 

    Circumstances, and game states. 
    We’ve never been the same since Allan Campbell left 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Clean sheets, clean sheets, clean sheets!!!

    They may not win you friends, but they can win you promotion. 

    Five all of last season. 

    Three in the playoffs alone. 

    Fitting it was a defender who won us the game. 
    Its becoming the norm for a defender to get involved with a big goal at Wembley; Shirtliff > Rufus > Bauer > Gillesphey 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    cliché .. good defence is the first line of attack
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,018
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Our midfield today on that performance was bossed. Don’t let the euphoria gloss over the fact. I realise that won’t be our team when August comes but I think every championship side would have beaten us today.
    Yep a very scrappy game mate…but “who gives a fuck We’re Charlton Ahletic & we’re going up”….❤️🤍🏆🍻
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    Nathan Jones mentioned that we've broken the record for clean sheets in a Charlton season - I presume he's included the three Play-Off games (which Lloyd rightly says, is bloody impressive to not concede at all in this mini-Cup competition).

    However does it really count towards the record if thats the case - Sorry to be pedantic, but I mean we had three extra games to achieve it, feels a bit of cheating to include the Play-Off matches.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Clean sheets, clean sheets, clean sheets!!!

    They may not win you friends, but they can win you promotion. 

    Five all of last season. 

    Three in the playoffs alone. 

    Fitting it was a defender who won us the game. 
    Its becoming the norm for a defender to get involved with a big goal at Wembley; Shirtliff > Rufus > Bauer > Gillesphey 
    And Purrington! Indeed other than Super Clive, our goal scorers at Wembley playoff finals have all been defenders.
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,018
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Nathan Jones mentioned that we've broken the record for clean sheets in a Charlton season - I presume he's included the three Play-Off games (which Lloyd rightly says, is bloody impressive to not concede at all in this mini-Cup competition).

    However does it really count towards the record if thats the case - Sorry to be pedantic, but I mean we had three extra games to achieve it, feels a bit of cheating to include the Play-Off matches.
    Care not one bit mate…if that’s what Nathan says…then right now who cares…we’re Charlton Athletic n we’re gong up…🤪🥳
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,172
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Our midfield today on that performance was bossed. Don’t let the euphoria gloss over the fact. I realise that won’t be our team when August comes but I think every championship side would have beaten us today.
    The midfield wasn't bossed in the slightest. It did pretty much exactly what it was sent out to do, minus Gilbert not really being on everyone else's wavelength with the ball. Today in a nervy game the midfield was generally bypassed on the ball in the first phase and was tasked with winning the second ball off that, mostly in the air, and getting the ball out wide or back to the strikers quickly which they did. Without the ball they were there to screen the defence, press the Orient defenders, offer support to the wingbacks when Orient got the ball wide and force Orient out so that they couldn't slip the ball through the middle. It's no accident that Charlie Kelman was an observer today, the Orient midfield couldn't get anything creative going, couldn't draw defenders out to leave Kelman in space because one of Doc or Coventry was always on them and so ended up going sideways. The only way they got any joy in the middle was when Galbraith cut in and ran past Clare but regardless of his clever running even he couldn't create anything clear cut for them because there was always a midfielder harrying him. For evidence of just how complete our midfield performance was, there was one point where Gilbert got tired, decided not to take the yellow bringing their player down and they got through, played the ball to Kelman and hit the bar. That's what things would have been like all game if our midfield hadn't carried out an absolutely tactically rigid plan. 

    Jones sent the team out today to win on fine margins and the midfield sacrificed today to make it happen. We won't play like that against every Championship side, we played like that against Orient today and we won.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Garrymanilow said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Our midfield today on that performance was bossed. Don’t let the euphoria gloss over the fact. I realise that won’t be our team when August comes but I think every championship side would have beaten us today.
    The midfield wasn't bossed in the slightest. It did pretty much exactly what it was sent out to do, minus Gilbert not really being on everyone else's wavelength with the ball. Today in a nervy game the midfield was generally bypassed on the ball in the first phase and was tasked with winning the second ball off that, mostly in the air, and getting the ball out wide or back to the strikers quickly which they did. Without the ball they were there to screen the defence, press the Orient defenders, offer support to the wingbacks when Orient got the ball wide and force Orient out so that they couldn't slip the ball through the middle. It's no accident that Charlie Kelman was an observer today, the Orient midfield couldn't get anything creative going, couldn't draw defenders out to leave Kelman in space because one of Doc or Coventry was always on them and so ended up going sideways. The only way they got any joy in the middle was when Galbraith cut in and ran past Clare but regardless of his clever running even he couldn't create anything clear cut for them because there was always a midfielder harrying him. For evidence of just how complete our midfield performance was, there was one point where Gilbert got tired, decided not to take the yellow bringing their player down and they got through, played the ball to Kelman and hit the bar. That's what things would have been like all game if our midfield hadn't carried out an absolutely tactically rigid plan. 

    Jones sent the team out today to win on fine margins and the midfield sacrificed today to make it happen. We won't play like that against every Championship side, we played like that against Orient today and we won.
    I think the the ‘not the top 20’ boys made a good point about this how in the last 15 minutes we basically limited them to having to cross it into the box from wide - which is exactly what Nathan Jones would want them to do.

    Like I said, circumstances and game states. When we went 1-0 up, we were always going to try and shut up shop, which was always going to give Orient more time on the ball in front of us.

    But ultimately because of the way our midfield played it limited them to no clear cut chances and having to take pot shots from outside the area. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,169
    edited May 25
    In the interests of page length, I won’t quote @Garrymanilow but that post is spot on. Just because we didn’t dominate possession doesn’t mean we were bossed. Everything they threw at us we repelled with a combination of disciplined shape, balls to the wall work rate, and physical determination.

    Orient are a good passing side with pace and movement; you can’t shut down everything they wanted to do but we weren’t bossed. We mostly let them play in the areas we were happy to and shut them down most times they got near the dangerous areas. Yeah they had 60% plus possession but Mannion didn’t have to do much except claim some crosses. That’s not a hallmark of a game in which one side has bossed the other. 

    The fact we keep winning these tight games where we maybe don’t create the most chances is not coincidence. It’s what Jones has set us up to do first and foremost and, quite simply, it is what we do time and again. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,624
    I think there’s a lot of rose tinted views coming out here. Orient controlled midfield today. If that was by design on Charltons part then fair play but I don’t think it was. 
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,629
    killerandflash said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Clean sheets, clean sheets, clean sheets!!!

    They may not win you friends, but they can win you promotion. 

    Five all of last season. 

    Three in the playoffs alone. 

    Fitting it was a defender who won us the game. 
    Its becoming the norm for a defender to get involved with a big goal at Wembley; Shirtliff > Rufus > Bauer > Gillesphey 
    And Purrington! Indeed other than Super Clive, our goal scorers at Wembley playoff finals have all been defenders.
    Strikers are soooooo over rated. Let's have a team full of defenders next year & we'll go up as Champions !
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,867
    Thomas Sandgaard is currently playing a clean sheet win record passionate solo in an american business board meeting while believing the 5 year plan will still go ahead. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think there’s a lot of rose tinted views coming out here. Orient controlled midfield today. If that was by design on Charltons part then fair play but I don’t think it was. 
    One shot on target, one.

    We had a game plan and it worked.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,621
    Dave2l said:
    Thomas Sandgaard is currently playing a clean sheet win record passionate solo in an american business board meeting while believing the 5 year plan will still go ahead. 
    Before the final: My friend was going over song lyrics with me (inspired by Charlton) and I said they sounded like Addicks to Victory.

    Not knowing what it was I played it to him.

    After the game: he said I manifested a clean sheet win by playing that. 
  • queensland_addick
    queensland_addick Posts: 7,547
    Playing attractive football is not a prerequisite to getting out of League One as many teams have found out. Throughout the season, especially the second half, we found a way of striking the balance between playing some decent football (at times) and scoring goals, but most importantly, winning games.

    That's what we did yesterday, we found the way to win, they didn't!

    Next season will require a different approach and hopefully we will adapt accordingly.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    https://cafcfactsstats.com/clean-sheets/
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    26-clean sheets (I lost count once we equalled 2011/12) is a ridiculous number
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    wmcf123 said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    And our midfield bossed Birminghams earlier on in the season. 

    Circumstances, and game states. 
    We’ve never been the same since Allan Campbell left 

    Agree 👍🏼

    We have been better 😄
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    killerandflash said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Clean sheets, clean sheets, clean sheets!!!

    They may not win you friends, but they can win you promotion. 

    Five all of last season. 

    Three in the playoffs alone. 

    Fitting it was a defender who won us the game. 
    Its becoming the norm for a defender to get involved with a big goal at Wembley; Shirtliff > Rufus > Bauer > Gillesphey 
    And Purrington! Indeed other than Super Clive, our goal scorers at Wembley playoff finals have all been defenders.
    Shirtliff's brace came at St Andrews, not Wembley. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,769
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think there’s a lot of rose tinted views coming out here. Orient controlled midfield today. If that was by design on Charltons part then fair play but I don’t think it was. 
    Possession alone won’t win games of football.

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