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Charlton Fans Protest Fund - Update and call for requests for funding

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  • if our organisers do sell things that include a profit will they be leaving themselves open to HMRC interest?
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,698

    if our organisers do sell things that include a profit will they be leaving themselves open to HMRC interest?

    I thought they might be the case.
    Instead they could make them free and have a 'suggested donation'?
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    I'll be getting a couple of tee shirts printed for our holidays "Sydney wants Roland out" for Australia and "The Maldives want Roland out" and get them photographed around the world as we go on our travels starting in May. ;)
  • Acab
    Acab Posts: 724
    Has anybody thought of asking the residents of the house next to the main entrance if we can use their back garden on match days to erect a rather large banner facing the main entrance. A small remuneration might sway it.
    Or canvas any of the other houses along Floyd Road with a view to them doing the same type of thing on match days.
    Just an idea.
  • My stickers left my coat near the end and can now be found stuck within the ground, hope the cleaners enjoy, will be interesting to see of its still there at the next game.

    Loved the stickers. Would like to see them handed out again. As well as being stuck around the ground there are ideal for sticking in various places outside the ground too.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,036
    2% cycle jerseys. Given the success of the jerseys sold for the Upbeats I'm sure these would sell. And generate more money for the fund.
    Also what about caps or beanies.
  • Blinkant
    Blinkant Posts: 598
    I'd buy a few tshirts. Maybe just plain black ones with white text. Roland out #we want our charlton back. Straight to the point and would look good.

    And would buy a few pin badges as well. I'm ready to part with my cash. Make it happen.
  • Acab said:

    Has anybody thought of asking the residents of the house next to the main entrance if we can use their back garden on match days to erect a rather large banner facing the main entrance. A small remuneration might sway it.
    Or canvas any of the other houses along Floyd Road with a view to them doing the same type of thing on match days.
    Just an idea.

    Better still surely we can convince someone in the tower block behind the SW corner of the ground to let us borrow their balcony?

  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    edited January 2016
    or projection bombing.
    not sure of cost, logistics or legality but they certainly wont be able to take it down.
    imagine a montage of stigs finest works appearing on the valiant house tower block throughout the game.
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,831
    iainment said:

    2% cycle jerseys. Given the success of the jerseys sold for the Upbeats I'm sure these would sell. And generate more money for the fund.
    Also what about caps or beanies.

    I'll happily buy a couple too
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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    All sorts of issues with either collection buckets (need a permit from council or met police or both) and making a profit (taxable trade) also problem with expensive merchandise is that you could need to register for VAT if the turnover rather than profit goes above £82k in a year or you buy more than £82k of stuff in a year. Sounds like a lot but it's just over 4000x£20 so if there were say 1000 scarves at £20, 1000 t-shirts, you get the idea.

    Not to say it can't be done and I'd be happy to work on setting something up if people were interested but it's a big step up in terms of time for someone in addition to Curbs and Davo to deal with this.

    Would be worth it if we are in it for the long haul though as over the next year or so my son is going to have outgrown his Charlton kit and sending him to football in another teams kit isn't good. Sending him in Charlton protest kit would be fantastic.
  • HantsAddick
    HantsAddick Posts: 2,423
    edited January 2016

    Davo55 said:

    TEL said:

    Might be worth mentioning the money raised thus far to the press?

    Other views would be welcome though.
    My financial situation means I can't contribute but I agree with y
    PaddyP17 said:

    https://www.clothes2order.com/

    Used this site to mock up a t-shirt. 500 large red ones would cost approximately £1173.

    It says "WE WANT OUR CLUB BACK #ROLANDOUT"

    With the following line layout:

    WE WANT OUR
    CLUB BACK
    #ROLANDOUT

    Definitely would be clear enough to see around and about. Obviously when it came to wearing them, the club has the right to refuse entry yada yada, but there we go.

    If enough people think this is a good idea, then possibly a good idea to apportion some funding towards it. I have to say that I certainly don't have the financial capital to sort this myself (even though I presume should this be approved then the fund would be allocated accordingly, but it would require me invoicing in some way I guess), so... yeah.

    That's an idea and one that's not too expensive per shirt.

    I think selling them for a profit towards the protest fund would be a better idea if it's possible.
    £1173/500 works out at £2.35 per t shirt. I'd happily (among others I assume) pay £10 for one. Giving a £7.17 profit per shirt. Generates another £3585 towards the cause.
    With t-shirts we can wear them under a fleece or something so they are hidden as we enter the ground, then reveal them when we are in our seats. They can't throw thousands of us out. Great idea on profits too.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,838

    Davo55 said:

    TEL said:

    Might be worth mentioning the money raised thus far to the press?

    Other views would be welcome though.
    My financial situation means I can't contribute but I agree with y
    PaddyP17 said:

    https://www.clothes2order.com/

    Used this site to mock up a t-shirt. 500 large red ones would cost approximately £1173.

    It says "WE WANT OUR CLUB BACK #ROLANDOUT"

    With the following line layout:

    WE WANT OUR
    CLUB BACK
    #ROLANDOUT

    Definitely would be clear enough to see around and about. Obviously when it came to wearing them, the club has the right to refuse entry yada yada, but there we go.

    If enough people think this is a good idea, then possibly a good idea to apportion some funding towards it. I have to say that I certainly don't have the financial capital to sort this myself (even though I presume should this be approved then the fund would be allocated accordingly, but it would require me invoicing in some way I guess), so... yeah.

    That's an idea and one that's not too expensive per shirt.

    I think selling them for a profit towards the protest fund would be a better idea if it's possible.
    £1173/500 works out at £2.35 per t shirt. I'd happily (among others I assume) pay £10 for one. Giving a £7.17 profit per shirt. Generates another £3585 towards the cause.
    With t-shirts we can wear them under a fleece or something so they are hidden as we enter the ground, then reveal them when we are in our seats. They can't throw thousands of us out. Great idea on profits too.
    Assuming you sell all 500.

    With all these different t shirts, jumpers, beanie hats cycle shirts (?!), lapel badges and the rest also on sale I think you would struggle.

    I think the idea of just donating cash into the bank is a much better idea. No initial outlay, no risk, maximum return. Then spend it on something that grabs the attention and keeps up the pressure.

  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,218
    Total of donations received to date stands at £6,320.

    Some people are registering on here just to donate.

    Great stuff. Thank you.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Latest update - things are hotting up.

    Total donations now £6,641

    Actual or committed spend now £3,223

    Money now being spent faster than it is coming in - but we're not slowing down. As before, we will update you on what we spent money on in due course.

    Please keep the money coming in folks. You can contribute by bank transfer to:

    Brenda Smith
    Sort code 20-68-04
    Account number 50661678

    Giving your CL user name as a reference. PM @Davo55 and @Curb_It too, so we can identify you as the donor and acknowledge.

    Those wishing to use PayPal should PM @Curb_It for details.

    Thanks to everyone who has donated so far, some of whom have given twice. You are all brilliant.
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  • I was at Dulwich Hamlet on Saturday with a sticker still on my coat and was asked if there were any badges.

    The stickers are a great way of spreading the word, though...






  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,218
    Quite a few of you now donating for a second time. Very generous.

    £6,832 currently donated.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,218
    Okay so after totting up this morning, we are 98 pounds short of £7,000 in donations.

    Can anyone help get us over that figure. Lot of money going out, need a bit more coming in.

    I thank you.

  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    What's the total at now?
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  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    We will aim to do an update tomorrow that will cover donations and spend.
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    edited February 2016
    Another idea for a banner protest - how about a large set for either the North lower or covered end?
    Have 3 or 4 large banners that take up the length of the stand - each one having 'random' letters on them (for the sakes of getting them in the ground) but when they are all on show they match up and spell "Roland out" or "duchatelet out" ?

    Could get each block to hold above their heads for a certain time and before and after the game (think killer hales che guevara flag)

    G block hold : R
    H hold : O
    J & k hold : LA
    OUT

    M hold : N
    N hold : D

    Would be large scale and easy to see/read
  • ellisaddick
    ellisaddick Posts: 1,435
    I think more beer mats to be handed out at ground and mass frisbee throwing a lot must land on pitch and cause disruption
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,205
    We have banners permanently at the back of the Cupboard End. Why not hang one of the new banners there during the match?
  • Wouldnt really be seen behind the standing crowd
  • Following our departure from the valley to selhurst, I lost interest.
    What with being a teenager and the development of acid house, travelling to selhurst wasn't top of my list.
    Viewing the roadside advertising hoardings around Charlton relinquished my energy.
    I think a captive advertising campaign, along with more aggressive action, is the way to go.
    I would happily donate to an advertising campaign.
    Totally admire you for your efforts.
    All the best
    Tony.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    @Robbo on the wing

    Tony

    Many thanks for the kind words. We have a fight on our hands but I think that the regime have started to understand that Charlton fans aren't going to just let them ruin our club without a major struggle.

    There's just a couple of us managing the protest fund, effectively in our spare time, so we can't really get into ring-fencing particular donations for particular activities - but just to say that, although I obviously can't give any details or promises, more billboard advertising is a serious option and any donations will be very welcome.

    Alan
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    edited February 2016
    Time for the latest update:

    Thanks to the generosity of many on here, and Charlton fans responding to fund coverage on the CASTrust website, Twitter and Facebook.................

    .........and voluntary donations totalling £490 for scarves and banners last Saturday (special thanks to @Henry Irving and @Addickted2TheReds)....

    ........The total donated do far is £8388, which is just fantastic!

    So far we have spent £2823, and have already committed to spend a further £1762.

    I last reported in detail on expenditure on 25th January (page 3 of this thread). Since then your money has been spent on:

    1. A Google Adwords campaign

    With this, we were able to reach people as they searched for keywords or browsed websites with themes related to Charlton Athletic and CARD activities so that we could drive traffic to the online petition. This was live between 25th Jan and 4th Feb and got 445 clicks. This brought extra attention and signatures to the online petition but perhaps the best part was that this forced the club to run advertising of their own (which would have course cost them money). The attached screenshot shows our ad, immediately above the club's response :smile:

    postimg.org/image/5r3rfgljx/

    We may well run this type of campaign again in the future, for specific purposes.

    2. The banners for Banner Day, which were in 3 designs. Image attached for those of you have been asking.


    That leaves us with a balance of about £3800 to "play with". Of course, we are not letting up on the protests and this could be spent very quickly.

    Many, many thanks to this who have donated. Your generosity is amazing.

    We are in a struggle, which will probably be long and bitter. There is so much more we can and will do. Your donations help to make this possible.

    All donations to (please note the change of name of the bank account, other details are the same):

    Protest Fund
    Sort code 20-68-04
    Account number 50661678

    Giving your CL user name as a reference. PM @Davo55 and @Curb_It too, so we can identify you as the donor and acknowledge.

    Those wishing to use PayPal should PM @Curb_It for details.

    Roland OUT, Meire OUT, Murray Out

    #WeWantOurCharltonBack
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,218
    Thanks again to @mrbligh for the serious hard work on the banners and to @mjpcafc on the goodgle ad.

    Its posters like these that put in the effort that are really important to the campaign.

    Thank you.

  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,218
    We have some fabulously generous fans you know. Another 374 quid added since the total given on Monday.

    So I make it £8762 donated so far.